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Originally posted by shayborg:
...A little more on topic (yes, just to justify this post), I'd just like to say that I've never seen a bar that didn't get repetitive after the first couple of posts -- just people getting drunk, people getting shot up, and people trying to ... interact ... with certain female elements (you know who you are;) )...

Um, HEY!

j/k, I know I take it too far. It's kinda fun though...

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Speaking of replacing the original Skyblade.... Who was Eeun? Besides the fact that he created the great shipyard that was once considered the best out there...

And where has he gone?

This is way off topic, huh? Well... umm.... I'm trying to get my mind off of the loss of the BBar.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Nope. All the Banter and Brawlers constantly attack me either because of my post count (which I never brag about or bring up in the first place. There just numbers, good grief...)

I don't.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**and my "constant attempts to replace the original skyblade," as OctoberFost likes to say whenever he gets the chance.
**

Again, I don't. I would ask you not to generalize like this... I see attacks against B&B; regulars in general, and that's a personal assault on me, as I consider myself to be one. Stop. If you have something to complain about, complain about a specific member, instead of making broad statements that aren't true.

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EVula got the last Boozerama post. Don't get me wrong, you're great EVula, but I think a regular member of the bar should have gotten it. Oh, well, I'm not gonna worry about it anymore.

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Originally posted by Starkiller:
**Again, I don't. I would ask you not to generalize like this... I see attacks against B &B; regulars in general, and that's a personal assault on me, as I consider myself to be one. Stop. If you have something to complain about, complain about a specific member, instead of making broad statements that aren't true.

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You certainly did months back about the post count.

Would you rather me list every individual member I'm referring to? Heh.

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SC walks in, sees all of the webboard members weeping over the loss of the BBar, and ceremoniously begins to p

He quickly corrects the earlier post, "and ceremoniously begins to pour Dr. Pepper on their heads."

SC quickly corrects the earlier post, "and ceremoniously begins to pour Dr. Pepper on their heads."

Skyblade visits the topic and notices plenty of Slapdash spam.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
You certainly did months back about the post count.;)

I may have been jesting about it, but I never actually attacked you for it.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Would you rather me list every individual member I'm referring to? Heh.
**

"All Muslims are evil terrorists." -- yes, I would.

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Originally posted by Starkiller:
"All Muslims are evil terrorists." -- yes, I would.

Well, easy enough for me, I've managed to isolate my problems with B&B; down to about 2 members, but it sounds like the prodding at Skyblade is more general. Maybe "B&Bers;" could just be construed to mean "A majority of the regular posters to B&B;" in the future, or something along those lines?

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Well, easy enough for me, I've managed to isolate my problems with B &B; down to about 2 members, but it sounds like the prodding at Skyblade is more general. Maybe "B&Bers;" could just be construed to mean "A majority of the regular posters to B&B;" in the future, or something along those lines?

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That would be a good answer. I've noticed that members who share their beliefs and political views at the Banter and Brawl run into trouble. Since I have Christian beliefs and am extrememly conservative when it comes to politics, many of the B&Bers; ranging from forge to OctoberFost like to find any possible way to critisize my posts (and post numbers). Pikeman, CaptainTripps, and a few others are the same way. If they don't agree with your beliefs, they hate your guts. A sick rule, but that's how the majority of the B&B; forum runs. I'm sure Soviet Mikee can relate.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
am extrememly conservative when it comes to politics,

Oh dear.

Mac wanders off, muttering something about "how can a liberal be friends with so many conservatives?"

I noticed that trend when I hung out in Just Chat for a week or two back in June, I think it was. Quite a few vocal conservatives there. I take it B&B; is more liberal?

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I take it B&B; is more liberal?

Yes. I was in a homosexuality debate and some of my words were twisted, others completely dismissed. I did get the last word in that argument. It wasn't a desperate one either. No one bothered to respond to it.

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First of all, you aren't shunned on the B&B; for not being liberal... I'm fairly moderate (though that means that I inevitably end up arguing with BOTH sides). However, people who make statements must provide back-up for those statements for them to be considered valid. Specifically, many people on the B&B; feel that a large number of those who are against homosexuality have no reason for it, but they just say it (there are exceptions, of course) because that's what they're told to think.

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Originally posted by Starkiller:
**First of all, you aren't shunned on the B &B; for not being liberal...
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Well, moderates may get away with hanging around the B&B; forums, but certainly not conservatives. Soviet Mikee is extrememly conservative, and he admits at this forum that the Banter and Brawl is a junk.

Anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, anti-pornography, anti-drug, Gore and Clinton bashing, pro-consitution, pro-gun, government power restriction, rights of religion. Those are political terms that describe me, and that the B&Bers; absolutely detest.

Mac: Heh, I had no idea. About the Banter and Brawl, it is extrememly liberal from what I've seen.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, anti-pornography, anti-drug, Gore and Clinton bashing, pro-consitution, pro-gun, government power restriction, rights of religion. Those are political terms that describe me, and that the B &Bers; absolutely detest.

If that's a list of conservative traits, maybe I'm more moderate than I thought. Maybe you never noticed because I only firmly disagree with two of those. Of course, that doesn't count "No opinion" on those first three issues. It's not that I don't care, I just see good and bad aspects to both sides (Never really thought of pornography as a major political issue before, either).

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, anti-pornography, anti-drug, Gore and Clinton bashing

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I have to say that I don't really agree with most of your political views, I'm afraid.

Anti-homosexual? I never really did understand that concept. It is a bit weird, but I don't really see anything wrong with homosexuality. Anti-pornography? Censorship is worse. All these self-appointed messiahs trying to shield the eyes of their children from the world and what is out there. And how can you be pro-consitution and anti-pornography? What about all the freedom of speech, etcetera?

Anti-Drug? How, then, can you support George Dubyah?

Clinton was a good president, though he was not a great guy personally. Gore is no worse (hes better) than Bush. He's boring, sure, but what do you expect from a politician?

Oh well, I'm not really trying to start a debate. Don't worry, macavenger, I'm liberal enough for a few people.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Clinton was a good president, though he was not a great guy personally.
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Perhaps domestically, but a large number of the problems that the United States is facing are due to Clinton. What happened three months ago is not the first attack against the United States, remember. But, Clinton rarely took action, even though he said he would, which led the terrorists to think that they could do things without fear of retribution. Then there was that entire bribe thing towards the end of his term, in which he pardoned fugitives, not to mention the fact that Clinton never took any action without looking at the effect on his popularity rating.

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**If that's a list of conservative traits, maybe I'm more moderate than I thought.:p Maybe you never noticed because I only firmly disagree with two of those. Of course, that doesn't count "No opinion" on those first three issues. It's not that I don't care, I just see good and bad aspects to both sides (Never really thought of pornography as a major political issue before, either).

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Yeah, that's the thing about polotics. Many conservatives disagree with their own fellow conservatives on certain issues. A never-ending arguement between parties and individuals.

Actually, pornography has become a major political issue lately. I've gone to several Republican county fund-raisers recently, and I've noticed one of their major goals is to completely outlaw the junk. Since Bush is a Christian and conservative, I wonder if he'll ever direct his attention to the issue.

ares1: Heh, I completely understand the issue of homosexuality, which is one reason I oppose it more than ever now. Americans our day in time believe that "freedom" refers to complete access to whatever they want and wish for. The truth is, the founding fathers created the government as the Bible being the ultimate source of law. The Constitution was based on Biblical principles, which is why the liberals and democrats in Capitol Hill are doing their best to ratify each and every ammendment.

Pornography destroys. I've noticed many people declare "that it satisfies one's desires," but that's a bunch of bull. People who use junk like that to satisfy their lusts expose their lack of self discipline, and they miss out on the happy, guiltless life they could be living instead.

Bush doesn't support ilegal drugs, and he has yet to make any effort to stop it. Again, people use drugs as a source of please, and exposure to lack of self discipline.

Clinton, in my opinion, was our worst president to date. My whole family about threw up when Gore said (just following Clinton's farewell address), "we shall all remember William Clinton as America's finest President." That guy was sad news... Asking God to bless America, and then running off and playing with women. It's also believed that he is responsible for the deaths of over fifty members of Capitol Hill.

I can vote next elections, sweet. Hope Bush runs again.

Bush is a poor speaker, but he sure gets his point across. Gore is a Bore, and is a poor speaker. Better yet, I never could understand the half of what he was trying to get across...

Not debating here either, only sharing my views. It's quite interesting to see what we do and do not share in terms of politcal views. Heh.

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