What should I make next?
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Azdara: Sounds good to me.
As for the next graphic we'll need (don't worry about making these right away. Take your time), I'm thinking of some kind of heavy fighter. Armament = 6 Plasma Beam Cannons, 3 Plasma Bolt Stinger Launchers, 100 Plasma Stinger Bolts, 1 Rocket Launcher, 4 Heavy Rockets. As for appearance, something based on the Cricket design, only bigger and sleaker will do fine. If you need any additional information, post away.
As you can probably tell, the Dreden Rebellion has invested plenty of research into plasma weapons.
Mac: Sure. I haven't done much with weapons inside ResEdit, so I'll base their power on known weapons.
Plasma Beam Cannon: Fires large, green spherical beams. If you know what the Audemon (sp?) blue beams from "Ares" look like, that is exactly what I have in mind, only colored differently. Plasma bolts are extrememly fast, have excellent range (kills Milky Way human technology), and a damage rate equal to that of neutron cannons. They fire rapidly as well, making them expensive.
Plasma Stinger Bolts (I believe I've already explained the launcher): Javelin-like rockets packed with plasma. Are somewhat bigger, and have range equal to that of the human missile. However, their rate of fire is somewhat slower than javelins, but the punch makes up for that.
Dreden Rocket: Smaller than human heavy rockets, but have better punch. Also packed with plasma.
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OOOOOOOOOOO Us Dreden are so advanced! 
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Mac turns eyes on Skyblade again 
Just need to know what font and size and such you used to create the government titles in the shipyard logos. I'm making one for the Dreden, and need a B for rebellion, since there isn't one in any of the other logos that I can use to piece it together.
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- Macavenger | e-mail: (url="http://"mailto:e-gamerguy1@home.com")mailto:e-gamerguy1@home.com(/url)e-gamerguy1@home.com
(quote)Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Mac turns eyes on Skyblade again
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.........A Word To The "Abacus" Crowd
(Mac, you especially.) In reading the above posts, I fear I see a dependence on "the numbers" coming which I found distressing in BFS II.
If judging battle damage is going to be reduced to a reliance on some imagined formula of
"Sue's ship has sheilding of X, and pumps out damage of Y. Joe's ship's sheilding is less than Sue's but delivers the same damage. Sue won." I will bail from the webstory very quickly.
(Remember the Vietnam War? The typical VC soldier had an AK-47, which even the US troops recognized as superior to the US M-16. The US forces FAR out-spanked the VC in total battles.)
I am in this webstory for the fun of the tactics. (If our fleets only had pea-shooters and slingshots I would still be interested.)
Please resist the "bean counter" tendency. War does not work so "cleanly".
(Thank you for considering my "two cents.")
- KK
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Courage stands halfway between cowardice and rashness, one of which is a lack, the other an excess of courage." ... Plutarch
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Originally posted by Kaptain Karl:
**.........A Word To The "Abacus" Crowd
(Mac, you especially.) In reading the above posts, I fear I see a dependence on "the numbers" coming which I found distressing in BFS II.
If judging battle damage is going to be reduced to a reliance on some imagined formula of
"Sue's ship has sheilding of X, and pumps out damage of Y. Joe's ship's sheilding is less than Sue's but delivers the same damage. Sue won." I will bail from the webstory very quickly.**
Numbers may be important, but they certainly aren't everything. Since cost is based on performance, in theory we could add up the total worth of the opposing fleets and determine who wins if war were a clean thing. It's not. Believe me, I intend to spank you pirates (and Aliens, if my personal fleet ventures over there) tactically. After all, you do still have somewhat of a technological edge to work with, I think.
To some extent, in straight duels between big @ss Heavy Cruisers, this "bean counting" might have to kick in. With huge ships, there isn't a whole lot of maneuvering to be done. Even there, if you can think up some original tactics, go ahead and surprise me with them.
Of course, there's a lot more room to play at tactics when you're zipping little fast ships all over the place, ganging a bunch of ships up against one target, etc.
Skyblade - I don't seem to have that one, but I may be able to hack an R into a reasonable looking B.
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- Macavenger | e-mail: (url="http://"mailto:e-gamerguy1@home.com")mailto:e-gamerguy1@home.com(/url)e-gamerguy1@home.com
Preliminary Dreden shipyard posted, available from the (url="http://"http://members.home.net/ev/bfs3/")homepage(/url).
BTW KK, if you really want a story that's nothing but tactical fun, I suggest looking at Soda Wars to tide you over until this starts. It's more in the no-holds-barred spirit of BFS I.
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- Macavenger | e-mail: (url="http://"mailto:e-gamerguy1@home.com")mailto:e-gamerguy1@home.com(/url)e-gamerguy1@home.com
You have a bad link.
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(url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/spl_cadet/shipyard.html")BFSIII: Pirate shipyard(/url)
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Yeah, the link is bad. I get a "sorry" page.
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Here's a link to the Dreden Shipyard that should work ( :p): (url="http://"http://members.home.net/e-gamerguy1/ev/bfs3/dredenshipyard.html")http://members.home....enshipyard.html(/url)
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Uh, Mac? It's a BattleFortress. It should have that many LRBM launchers. You can lower the number to about 100, though. Besides, I'm probably not even going to have one in my fleet.
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Voltaire
(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Here's a link to the Dreden Shipyard that should work (;)
Common error I make when trying to pull up my sites, I forget that all important part - my eMail address after members.home.net, and skip straight to the subdirectories. :mad:
Asriel - Thanks. And I probably won't have a Carrier in my fleet either.
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<insert drumroll here> Okay, here she is, the newest addition to the Dreden fleet. It's definately sleeker and more streamlined than the "Cricket", but it's speed/manuverability etc. are a little less becasue this baby carries a lot more. On the two side pods are the launching tubes for the plasma bolt pods, and the third plasma bolt pod is under the ship, and can't be seen from this view. The 6 plasma cannons are placed close to the body as to lessen the drag, and because of the huge amount of drag an external heavy rocket launcher would cause, the launching mechanism is held inside the hull, much like the plasma bolt pods in the "Cricket". This ship has some official name that Skyblade will give it, but the pilots often refer to it as a "Lynx." Well here she is:
So, I've got like 1 and a half hours and I would like to make another ship, what should I make?
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(This message has been edited by Azdara Ace (edited 11-02-2001).)
Very nice work, Azdara! Looks better than the Cricket...
Stats on the Dreden Heavy Fighter - "Lynx"
Shields: 75
Armor: 75
Speed: 425
Acceleration: *****
Turning: ****
Fuel: 5 Jumps
Price: 800,000 credits (just a list price, Mac gets the final call on that)
Weapons:
6 Plasma Beam Cannons
2 Plasma Bolt Stinger Launchers
50 Plasma Stinger Rockets
1 Plasma Rocket Launcher
4 Plasma Rockets
Azdara: Next, I'm thinking of a gunship-type vessel. Small, fast, and somewhat like the Human Confederation "Tigershark." Armed with 8 Plasma Bolt Cannons, 4 Plasma Stinger Launchers (pods), 250 Plasma Stinger Rockets, 1 Plasma Torpedo Launcher, 8 Plasma Torpedoes.
As for a theme, perhaps a sleak design with more width would work. Make it look somewhat bigger than the Lynx, and maybe add a few more fins.
Keep up the good work.
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Okay, Captain Skyblade, I've gotten pretty far along on this one, but I'm going to bed now, so this ship should be done bye the end of tomorrow. Good night!
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Awesome...there is no way I could have done that.
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Hangon,just a small thing I'd like to insert into the Dreden Shipbuilding thing
The Dreden now have an Interceptor,a Heavy Fighter and a Gunship.
Thanks to Azdara Ace,all of them look excellent.
But do the Dreden actually have any capital ships,i.e. Cruisers,Carriers,etc?
Personally,If I was a Dreden commander(and i'm beginning to regret I'm not,seeing how few Aliens there are),I would see a Carrier class vessel as an absolute neccessity for all those fighters.
And a Cruiser would be invaluable to you to provide the heavy firepower fighters can't.
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Originally posted by Shade:
**Hangon,just a small thing I'd like to insert into the Dreden Shipbuilding thing
The Dreden now have an Interceptor,a Heavy Fighter and a Gunship.
Thanks to Azdara Ace,all of them look excellent.
But do the Dreden actually have any capital ships,i.e. Cruisers,Carriers,etc?
Personally,If I was a Dreden commander(and i'm beginning to regret I'm not,seeing how few Aliens there are),I would see a Carrier class vessel as an absolute neccessity for all those fighters.
And a Cruiser would be invaluable to you to provide the heavy firepower fighters can't.
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No, the Dreden don't have any capital shipps yet, but I'm sure that I'll be making one pretty soon, because each time Captain Skyblade asks me to build a new ship, it's bigger than the last.
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You would have to be ignorant, derranged, demented, or dead to turn down the oppurtunity to fly an Azdara.
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Skyblade, your estimated prices seem a wee bit cheap to me. Mac, thanks for raising the Interceptor's a bit in the shipyard.
/me is almost at 400 posts...
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