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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Upon hearing your statement, I rid this webstory of the Ghost fighter.;) No ship is to be used in this game that is "indestructable." And even if the Ghost is a super-fighter, it's going to be quite pricey...

**

It is destructible, just you have to hit it. And Mac has already given it a quite reasonable price of $400,000.

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(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Upon hearing your statement, I rid this webstory of the Ghost fighter.

But of course, since the Devil Rays are vulnerable to fighter interception (I'm not even going to bother trying to say otherwise, since I hate losing arguments ), they will probably typically be escorted by Stingray squadrons, which will probably kick arse on your Ghosts, my friend.

This is one of the things that makes pricing the Ghost tough; it would get donkey whooped by the equally priced Stingray (most likely), yet could probably easily demolish a much more expensive Devil Ray or Skate. Just stay out from in front of the Devil Ray, or suffer the consequences of not ph33ring its Particle Beam.

I may also be doing some non-price affecting tweaks to some things soon, just minor tweaks mostly against the HC. I may also be using Space Bombs a bit more, since I'm coming up with some tactics for them...

(quote)Originally posted by Lord Asriel:
Oh, and Mac, ph33r the Starscreamer and its 10 guided propulsion mines.** (/quote)

4 Space Bombs have about the same damage, and are slightly cheaper since they aren't guided. That doesn't make them worthless. Don't try to tell me my fighters will have any trouble landing them on your silly Macross. Hmm, I can't remember, did I ever lower the Starscreamer's price? I'll have to revisit that, I'll concede that 1.8 mil might be a bit high if it's still there.

(quote)Originally posted by Jimbob:
**I believe we are waiting on some more Dreden graphics/stats, and possibly some team balancing, how long this will take I have no idea though. For some reason, I'd think I'd place my bets on a week or more, but for a real response that is not generated randomly, you will have to ask Mac.
**(/quote)

I'd agree with all of that except for getting a non-random response out of me. Your answer is about as good as mine right now. It mostly depends on Captain Skyblade and Azdara Ace getting the starting Dreden tech together, so they may really be able to give a better answer than I.

• G ame O verall D irector

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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
**And all eyes turn to Cpt. Skyblade and Azdara Ace!
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Let's not put too much pressure on them, they have enough stress already.

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Ph33r the Alien Imperium and its sorta ph33rable destroyers?
Please?

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I can start doing whatever I need to do any time. I don't know much about this, so I need instructions from Captain Skyblade.

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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**I can start doing whatever I need to do any time. I don't know much about this, so I need instructions from Captain Skyblade.

**

Everyone stop looking at me!

Heh, ummm. Good idea. You can't do any graphics without instructions, correct?

First, why don't you try a light fighter graphic (we'll only need a shipyard view). I'm thinking of a blue-armored, fast vessel armed with plasma bolts and cannons (two plasma bolt pods (these are sorta like javelin rockets, only much more range and punch), and maybe four plasma cannons). It doesn't have to be anything heavilly-detailed, just make what you like.

Hope that's enough to give you a start. Please post away if you have any questions.

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Originally posted by Shade:
**Ph33r the Alien Imperium and its sorta ph33rable destroyers?
Please?
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I still ph33r it, yes, though not as much as most, I would imagine. Since I designed it myself, I do happen to have a pretty good idea of what its few weaknesses are.

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(This message has been edited by spl_cadet (edited 10-31-2001).)

Piates, I've been working on some minor modification to some stats, mostly HC, and I was wondering if you guys would mind a fairly significant change to the Macross, in the interest of realism. Looking at it again, the 250 LRBM launchers seems rather rediculous, especially since you only have 300 turrets. It just doesn't sound right. Also, there's the fact that a single salvo could nearly blow through a Heavy Cruisers shields. I think I was only comparing it to the Carrier earlier, so it didn't look so bad, but that's a bit crazy. Would you mind lowering the number of launchers to at most 100, or maybe even 50? I'd probably chop a few million off the price for you. I just don't really want to make a change this big unilaterally...

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Getting worried Macavenger? What do you think it was designed to do? And tell us how much you would drop the price before we agree.

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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
**Getting worried Macavenger?:) What do you think it was designed to do? And tell us how much you would drop the price before we agree.

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I don't believe the Human Confederation is exactly "scared" of the pirate ships, Mac is just making this realistic. Many of your ships are already overkill, but the HC could still easilly conquer pirate space with enough force.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**I don't believe the Human Confederation is exactly "scared" of the pirate ships, Mac is just making this realistic. Many of your ships are already overkill, but the HC could still easilly conquer pirate space with enough force.
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Exactly. I've already analyzed the Macross, and I'm fairly confident I could take one out with a force costing somewhat less by exploiting its weaknesses. It's just a bit unrealistic to have that many. I'm thinking a 5-10 mil price drop. OTOH, I might have to raise it a bit after seeing that if you don't...

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Okay dokey, here she is, the Dreden Cricket! So, you're probably wondering where the word Cricket comes from, so I'll tell you. The word comes from this ship's unique ability to jump off the ground for takeoff. This is possible because the landing gear can suddenly push down, making the ship vertically ascend extremely quickly on very short notice. The plasma(maybe this isn't the right word) pods are held inside of the hull, so that the ship is much more streamlines. The quad plasma cannons are on a hinge, and they can swivel up to around 150 degrees. When plasma rockets are fired, a door slides open on the bottom and an advanced mechanism drops of as many as you fire and auto targets each rocket in the right direction. Well, that's a lot, and maybe all of it doesn't make sense, but I figured that as long as I'm a ship designer, I might as well be technical. Here she is:

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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**Okay dokey, here she is, the Dreden Cricket! So, you're probably wondering where the word Cricket comes from, so I'll tell you. The word comes from this ship's unique ability to jump off the ground for takeoff. This is possible because the landing gear can suddenly push down, making the ship vertically ascend extremely quickly on very short notice. The plasma(maybe this isn't the right word) pods are held inside of the hull, so that the ship is much more streamlines. The quad plasma cannons are on a hinge, and they can swivel up to around 150 degrees. When plasma rockets are fired, a door slides open on the bottom and an advanced mechanism drops of as many as you fire and auto targets each rocket in the right direction. Well, that's a lot, and maybe all of it doesn't make sense, but I figured that as long as I'm a ship designer, I might as well be technical. Here she is:

**

/me w00ts

Made with Mechanisto™, right?

Is Skyblade going to post the stats, or do you have those? I'll start piecing a Dreden Shipyard together as you guys get the ships done.

/me goes back to work on another new HC ship

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Yup, Mechanisto!

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That is truly a very w00table Cricket,Azdara.
Congrats.
And I'm still working on the Skraine Patroller...

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Looks good, Azdara! I'm rarther impressed. Even looks similar to the design I had in mind...

By the way, "Cricket" wasn't really the name I had in mind. Sure, the fighter is small, but it sounds rather... harmless (heh). I believe giving it a more militant term, such as "light fighter" or "interceptor" would be a better idea.

Ok, here's the stats for the Dreden Rebellion Interceptor (I prefer this name, but I'll let Azdara give the final call on that).

Shields: 50
Armor: 50 (remember, we've got alien tech)
Speed: 500
Acceleration: *****
Turning: ***** (this thing is like a heavilly-armed and protected Azdara)
Fuel: 4 Jumps
Price: 500,000 credits (just a list price, Mac gets the final call on that)
Weapons:
4 Plasma Beam Cannons
2 Plasma Bolt Stinger Launchers (much like javelin pods, but instead are larger, fire slower, but have much more punch and excellent range)
50 Plasma Stinger Rockets

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Okay, sure Skyblade. "Cricket" can just be a nickname that the pilots give to it, I guess. So, what should I make next?

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Looks good, Skyblade. Can you give me a bit more idea on how powerful the Cannons are? ResEdit stats are good, but a comparison to the Turbolaser would work OK.

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