To Daedalus: Sorry Daedalus, but you made some major errors in your two posts.

First of all, Agzarai are not dumb, in fact, they are much smarter than you or I could ever be. Their brains are massive.

Second of all, Agzarai are the best land fighters in the galaxy.

Third of all, Agzarai are ten feet tall.

How do I know all this? Look at this picture:
(url="http://"http://www.pautsch.com/games/graphics/agzarai.gif")http://www.pautsch.c...ics/agzarai.gif(/url)

As you can see, because of their size, strong arms and eight tenticles, Agzarai could take on twenty humans and win. Better yet, they could take on 20 of just about any species and win. They are emensely powerful, and can even break down heavy metal thick doors without a problem (and that one could have easily broken out through that glass). And they are not afraid of grenades either. They could survive two direct blasts from a grenade without a problem. They also usually aren't captured. Its very hard to do so. They usually just break down doors and most other obsticles that stand in their way. They can also kill themselves. It is also impossible to candcuff them (because of their tenticles). Here is some more information on them:

Primary Race: Agzarai 10 feet tall
Second Race: Igzaerah 9 feet tall
Third Race: Zigrigar 7-8 feet tall

Info on Agzarai: The Agzarai are a race of vicious, ferocious, and brutal warriors, who's sole purpose in life is to conquer and destroy. Having a very bad temperment, the Agzarai have put most of their research into shields and weapons. The Agzarai's brain capacity is emense, and they are one of the most brilliant tacticians. Originally from their homeplanet, Agzaria, the Agzarai expanded and then conquered most of their home galaxy, Andromeda. However, using new technology developed by the Igzarah, the Agzarai were able to travel to this galaxy. Technilogically superior to even the Ramans, the Agzarai may be the most dangerous threat to the galaxy yet. The tallest Agzarai ever was Veyer Revsan, who stood 13 1/2 feet tall and was the emporer for 79 years.

Info on Igzaerah: The Igzaerah are different in several ways compared to their relatives the Agzarai. Unlike their perpetually violent relatives, the Igzaerah are more interested in science, but they can still be just as brutal as the Agzarai. The Igzaerah's specialty is wormholes, which the Agzarai used to get to the Milky Way Galaxy. While their weapons are equal technilogically to the Ramans, the Igzaerah know far more about sub-space, wormholes, slipstream drive, and other things than the Ramans or anyone do. The Igzaerah look almost exactly the same as the Agzarai, but they are colored with a lighter shade of green, and also have some yellow coloration along with the green.

Info on Zigrigar: The Zigrigar are just about in-between the Agzarai and the Igzaerah. Not exponentially violent, but still not exactly science nuts. The Zigrigar are more soft spoken then their cousins who always yell out their opinions. They are like both of their relatives combined; they enjoy science but also like the Agzarai's warrior nature. The Zigrigar's specialty is sub-space weapons. They look quite different from Agzarai. The back of their head is fused to their back, and they are colored blue, not green.

Also, they aren't in the Sumo system, and Agzarai hulls can stand emense pounding. Just a shower of meteorites or asteroids wouldn't hurt them. They could just evade them or leave the system by slipstream, while still cloaked. I can allow to to find them, just not destroy them. I have a special idea for that.

To Rooster: Those tactical drones of yours will have a very hard problem drilling through Agzarai hulls. They are VERY thick and VERY strong. Not to mention your troops wouldn't stand a chance against the Agzarai themselves. On just a light cruiser there are 2000 of them. Also, Agzarai ships are not very suseptible to inside explosions due to their thick hulls and heavy dutey internal structuring.

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(This message has been edited by Captain Carnotaur (edited 01-07-2001).)

(This message has been edited by Captain Carnotaur (edited 01-07-2001).)

Agzarai do not have slipstream technology. This is getting out of hand, i'm not going to continue to fight your super-races anymore. The Agzarai will now follow standard story rules. They will be limited to 10,000 warships.

These people can be as advanced as you said, however i will no longer make exceptions. The drones use a PTP Mesh to transport through the hull once attached. More than half are usually destroyed by enemy fire or escaping the blast. Whatever internal construction there is it is not explosive, it is a core overload.

Either you abide by this, or i will enforce the rules entirely and restrict you to your two nations.

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(This message has been edited by roostersw (edited 01-07-2001).)

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(This message has been edited by roostersw (edited 01-07-2001).)

Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

Okay, fine. Daedalus destroyed the Agzarai fleet at Sumo, and I'll try to make them a little less good. HOWEVER, the Agzarai themselves (the aliens themselves) are still just as stronger and powerful as I said.

As for my "Super Race", I'll try to downgrade them as much as I can. However, they have much more than 30 systems. In this galaxy, yes. In their own galaxy, they have 1,300 planets.

P.S. And yes they DO have slipstream technology!! They captured it!

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(This message has been edited by Captain Carnotaur (edited 01-07-2001).)

Carno, I will accept that Agzarai are more intelligent, but they are still rolly polly and two feet tall. If the Agzarai are as physically powerful as you say they are, they would never have developed intelligence because they could have survived with out it. According to your picture, the Agzarai have the equivalent intelligence of dinosaurs. We humans have very weak bodies and have developed intelligence to survive. It is natural selection.
-Also, I haven't destroyed the fleet at Sumo yet.

Rooster, thanks for putting the boot down on that one, I think that you should give them at least 200,000 ships though. They are big superior race.
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"Rooster, I will aknowlege the agreement. Ship production will begin at once. I have already issued my troops titanium tipped boots for kicking the fat Agzarai heads. Also, have you been able to secure crystals to make the subspace ancors that my and your scientists are researching.

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(This message has been edited by daedalus (edited 01-07-2001).)

(This message has been edited by daedalus (edited 01-07-2001).)

NO! NO! NO! The Agzarai are not "A rolly polly 2 feet tall" they are 10 feet tall!! So what about natural selection! They have a built in instinct to conquer and destroy other races. THAT is the main reason they became so technilogically advanced. They needed good technology to conquer and defeat other races.

To Everyone: I need to know what you all think about the Agzarai. If enough people hate the idea, I'll find some good way to drop them from the story. So much for my species...

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Originally posted by daedalus:
**I have already issued my troops titanium tipped boots for kicking the fat Agzarai heads.
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Kicking the "Fat Agzarai heads"??? They may have big heads, but not "Fat" ones. Long, yes. Fat, absolutely no. And besides, the Agzarai have much better reflexes then we do. And with all those tenticles, they could easily just grab the soldiers foot or just duck. Agzarai aren't dumb you know.

To Everyone who thinks I am just making up all this stuff about the Agzarai right on the spur of the moment to annoy you: You are wrong. Everything I say I have already made up, however, I just haven't said it yet. I have a lot of info on the Agzarai, and I can't say it all in one or two posts. It'd be too much.

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Could you e-mail it to me or rooster or someone for us to make sure you arn't lieing?

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The Person who misspells "Voinian" knows not of the 50 gigaton nuke coming at their cranium.

My objective is to live forever. So far so good.

I haven't been here for awhile, so I give control of he Artaian Empire and the Kenienati to Rooster to give to whoever he wants.

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Cuz I'm a 21st Century Digital Boy
I don't know the Monty Python but I've got a lotta toys
My daddy is a Renegade, his name is Hellcat Helian
Wait a second...

Uhhh...E-mail mail what? A picture of the Agzarai? All the info I have about them? I can assure you I'm not lieing.

Also, I don't like the amount of ships I have to work with. With only 200,000, I can't make very big fleets, and I need them because whenever I do have big fleets you always make them loose tons of ships for some STRANGE reason. Can I have 300,000?

To Rama: About your reducing my 50,000 ships to only 5,000 here is my answer; that would never happen. Agzarai hulls are much better than you think. Besides, all that molten rock and stuff would have to get through their shields first, and by that time they could have moved away. I have only loss 10,000 and I still have 40,000.

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On Azdgari...

Scorcher: "Carnotaur! Carnotaur! We just got word from Daedalus! He found an Agzarai fleet in the Sumo system!"

Carnotaur: "How big is it total?"

Scorcher: "VERY big! In all, 100,000 ships, and most of them are large warships!"

Carnotaur: "This is very bad. Since they know they've been detected, they'll attack someone, and a fleet of that magnitude will certainly wreak havoc! Inform Daedalus, Rooster, and Nova6; send all availible ships at a rondezous in the Pozdag system. We'll gather up a large enough fleet, and then strike them down."

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Originally posted by 21st Century Digital Boy:
**I haven't been here for awhile, so I give control of he Artaian Empire and the Kenienati to Rooster to give to whoever he wants.
**

The Artaians were destroyed by the Agzarai, a new alien race that's very powerful.

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Long live the Rebellion!

To Rama: Do you want a few South Tip systems? I'm still allied with you (and still allied with you, Rooster, I can be allied to both you and Rama, right?) and so I could just hand over a few of my systems there. I can spare them. Since you lost all your home systems, and now that you don't have any, I could hand over a few of mine. Deal? However, if you do, I expect you NOT to attack me and help me, and Rooster, in our conquest of the Agzarai.

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Here is the latest update to the LBS2 Map:
(url="http://"http://www.pautsch.com/games/graphics/lbs2map.gif")http://www.pautsch.c...ics/lbs2map.gif(/url)

I tried to make it as accurate as possible. All the systems are now correct. The Slipstream barrier has been fixed. I also deleted those two black holes near former Raman space.

To Rooster: Although I made the Ancara systems, they're probably wrong because you made up the Ancara. However, if you please, could you e-mail me a picture of Ancara space so that I could include them in the map?

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So the A.I.S. Intcontrovertible is the flagship of the Azgarai fleet? Well...
Before the UE became Corocian, UE Patriot was given high status by the UE government. He helped destroy the Dreadnought, end the Voinian Empire, etc., and got rwards. One of the things given to him was the override code for the U.E.S. Intcontrovertible. By now he is the only soul alive who knows the code- even if somebody when through the Intcontrovertible 's entire computer system, they could never find the code. Upon hearing that the UE's former flagship is now the flagship of the evil Azgarai, UE Patriot boots up the computer.

"Computer, go to universal sensor search. Find this ship: Original name: U.E.S. Incontrovertible. Date of construction: 2145 AD. Class: United Earth New Enalgnd shipyards DS-11 Destroyer. Current name: Unknown. Possible current name: A.I.S. Incontrovertible. "

The computer quickly finds the ship. UE Patriot then activates a top-secret comm level about which only he knows now. He enters the code and is in complete control of all the Incontrovertible 's systems. He turns down the cabin temperature to absolute zero, immediately freezing the Azgarai on board and putting them in suspended animation. He then cloaks the Incontrovertible and flies it into the Chorca system. Then, Corocian crews extract the Azgarai on board, put them into suspended animation capsules and send the capsules to (not to be identified) uninhabited planets where nobody will be able to find them for at least five million years. And one capsule per planet. UE Patriot then turns the cabin temperature of the newly renamed C.W.S. Incontrovertible to normal and places the ship inside the C.W.S. Caracas , which can hold up to four UE Destroyers. Now the Corocians know all the secrets of Azgarai technology... including weaknesses...

God bless,

UE Patriot

P.S. When the Incontrovertible 's cabin temperature was absolute zero, the Corocians were able to get inside using laser cutters and special thermal suits.

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"Turn me over, I'm done on this side."- St. Lawerence at his martyrdom
"The glory of God is man fully alive"- some saint whose name I can't remember
Voinian lovers are ignorant of the UE marines taking over Borb Station.
Reign of the UE: Coming this year!

To UE Patriot: Sorry, but, you got four major facts wrong:

1-The A.I.S. Incontrovertibile is NOT the flagship of the Agzarai Empire! The A.I.S. Agzarai Glory is, and that ship is still in the Andromeda galaxy. The A.I.S. Incontrovertibile is the flagship of the Agzarai Dominator fleet stationed in the North Tip. However, right now, the Incontrovertibile is undergoing repairs in the Laman system.

2-The A.I.S. Incontrovertibile is not a UE ship. It is an Agzarai New Horosk Shipyards Vengeance Class Heavy Assault Battleship. As far as I know, the U.E.S. Incontrovertibile has been destroyed in some battle or decomissioned.

3-It is still impossible to get to absolute zero, even for the Agzarai.

4-When an Agzarai vessel is about to be captured, the computer automatically activates the self destruct and destroys the ship. No one can override it. Only the captain of the ship can.

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(This message has been edited by Captain Carnotaur (edited 01-08-2001).)

(This message has been edited by Captain Carnotaur (edited 01-08-2001).)

I just looked back to one of my earlier posts about the A.I.S. Incontrovertibile, and I said "They got it from the UE" and I meant that they got the name from the UE, not the ship. Did you read that post and think the A.I.S. Incontrovertibile was a UE ship? Well, if you did, I was talking about the name.

P.S. Is it just me, or is this topic going a little slowly today?

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It is probably going slowly because a lot of us attend this institution where people are given free education and other good stuff like that.

Carno, I think you should at least acknowlege the destruction of at least 40,000 ships in Raman space. When stuff like that happens to planets, it is not pretty. Besides, he is the only one of us that has lost his entire space.

With the small authority granted upon me I revoke UE Patriot's post. It is post like that the the Great and Mighty Resetter was supposed to get rid of. (no offense)
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<Tranmission source unknown>
<Target: Carnotaur>
"You traitorous dog, I will not accept your offer. I will see to it that you and your fellow traitors die a misrable death at the hand of the Agzarai if I cannot do it personally.">
<End Transmission>

<Tranmission source unknown>
<Encrypted>
<Target: Daedalus>
"I know not who you are but you are the only neutral party in this war. I ask that you give refuge to a race that has nearly been destroyed by the Agzarai. A single planet will do. I have 500 ships and a few million refugees that I have to rescue."
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Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.

Rama, you do not need to ally with Carnotaur to have the south tip. I have said you may have it if you choose to commandeer the Raman/Renegade uprising there. If you agree to this i will name the systems you recieve. The U.E. Destroyer Incontrovertible was recommissioned to the Corocian Military in 2153 during the Oasan War and was decommissioned and scrapped shortly after in 2154. In case anybody was wondering, the current year is 2155. Carno, i'm pretty sure everybody does hate the Agzarai, but i believe i'll incorporate their utter destruction into the story. Also, there still is no trader alliance space until i say so. You seem to have reverted to a map which destroyed my beautiful recircling!!! Please, i worked very hard on that, could you implement the territory changes onto my map?

CONTINUATION: Rooster: "Yes, Daedalus. I don't think you've met Ziatsu, the Ancara scientist that helped us close the slipbarrier." Ziatsu comes out just as before with a black cloak on. Ziatsu: "I like this one better than your Carnotaur friend, Rooster. He seems more intricate somehow." Daedalus quickly chooses to take this as a compliment. Rooster: "Ziatsu has persuaded the Ancara to supply us with a Hija Crystal. This is another variation of the same type of crystal the slipcrystals are made of. Our scientist group on Aluzair has made a new weapon." Ziatsu walks to the panel and enters a command code. The subspace emitter sends him the valuable information and it comes up on the screen. Ziatsu: "The Hija Device. This has been in testing period for over a year as we have no way to interface the crystals even as we know the result of their combination. The Corocians have a material on Ursla called Beta 63, used by the Oasans in the war against the Corocians who no longer have a supply of it. Ursla, the only current source, is within Agzarai controlled badlands in former Miranu space. Will you aid in an effort to retrieve a sample?"

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I'm hurt, Rooster. Why doesn't Ziatsu like me? Doesn't favor the Azdgari or somthin?

Also, I'll fix up the map. Sorry. But did I get the Ancara systems right? Can I keep them?

Third, Ursla is under my control and not in former Miranu space. All you have to do is just ask me and I'll give a sample of that stuff to you. I'll even provide escort.

Oh, and fourth, I didn't want to totally annihilate the Agzarai, just the Agzarai in this galaxy. Leave the Agzarai in their own galaxy to me. I got a plan.

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Then, suddenly, a lieutenant approaches Daedalus and Rooster. "I just recieved a transmission from Carnotaur. He's organizing a fleet of Agzarai warships in the Pozdag system to destroy the Agzarai fleet in Sumo. He wants you two to send as many reinforcements as you can."

Rooster replies...

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At Agzarai High Command on Agzaraia...

"Admiral Konosho! I just recieved word from the Argonan/Agzarai Front; we've finally destroyed the Argonans! Only a few of their ships got away. Our forces our now pulling back from the former Argonan space to protect the Ruccannan front, where our lines are collapsing. If we don't do something about the Ruccannan soon, they'll start attacking home Agzarai space."

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<Tranmission Source: F-25>
<Encrypted>
<Target: Rama>
I will provide shelter for your people, in fact i will even help to rescue them. But I will not provide either resources or a place for your fleet if you do not use it only to defend from the Agzarai. Your people will always have a home, but if you continue to wage war on the members of this Galaxy, I will not harbor your fleet.
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"Rooster, I will help you take Ursla and hold it long enough to get the material."

"Carno, I will send no reiforcements. If you intend to just walk up to 20,000 ships and beat them in a battle then you have already lost."
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Rooster, i don't know if you remember from the last story, but I was in command of the entire North Tip renegades who had expanded far into Miranu space. On the old map, this territory was marked as owned by the Silver Fleet. In another post, I said that the renegades had finally settled down and formed a new government called the Trader Rebpulic. I have since had many posts referring to them. If you like, I can quote all the posts for you. I ask for this space to be shown once again. I can post the link that shows this space on the map.
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(This message has been edited by daedalus (edited 01-08-2001).)