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    • Mission with Smelta-V help


      Okay, I'm trying to make the pilot have to do the following:

      Accepts the mission. Then when he liftsoff from Earth, Bounty Hunter Kestrels are supposed to jump in and attack him.

      Instead, Confed Shuttles with the STR name of Bounty Hunter jump in and are againts him. But when they are blasted by the pilot, the pilot is attacked by nearby Confeds. I want him to be good with the Confeds.
      I entered the following for the Ships and Auxilary Ships:
      Amount: 8
      Type: Pirate Kestrel
      Location: Follow Player
      Aux Amount: 5
      Type: Pirate Corvette
      Aux Location: Follow Player

      So, what's my problem? ANd what's an Auxilary Ship?? DANGIT!

      ANd don't tell me that ResEdit is easier, cuz it's not!

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    • Heheh. Maybe you need to read the manual or readme or whatever it comes with. An auxilerry (sp?) ship is just another fleet of ships that do whatever you want. I failed algebra, and I can use S h melta-V, so you should be able to as well. It's all very self-explainatory, and if you are having trouble understanding the interface, you might want to learn more before you start working on a plugin.

      (edit) by "learn more", I meant about EV and plugin development. When I reread it, it looked like I was calling you stupid. You might be stupid, but I'm not sure because I havn't known you long enough. The best resource you can get is the Ev-bible, available in the addons section. It explains everything you need to know.
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      (This message has been edited by ares1 (edited 09-22-2001).)

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      Originally posted by ares1:
      The best resource you can get is the Ev-bible, available in the addons section. It explains everything you need to know.

      Speaking of, I was looking for the EV Bible in the addons section the other day, and couldn't find it. Not that I need a copy, just looking for where it is on Ambrosia's page. can you give a link to it?

      And Space, I can't definitively say ResEdit is easier, since I haven't used Schmelta V, but based on your problems, it looks to me like it is. πŸ˜‰

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    • No, no, no. Shmelta-V is much simpler than resedit. Resedit isnt really hard, but for a newbie (and I know from experience) Shmelta-V is easier.

      As for the EV bible, there is an online version at (url="http://"http://www.EVula.com")www.EVula.com(/url). I don't know where a downloadable one is, though. Try the guides and utilites sections of the addons page.

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      "Out of all the sperm, I was the fastest."
      Check out my new EV website: (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/")The Legion(/url).

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      Originally posted by ares1:
      As for the EV bible, there is an online version at www.EVula.com. I don't know where a downloadable one is, though. Try the guides and utilites sections of the addons page.

      I know about EVula's already, and I've tried the addons page.

      Personally, I'm of the opinion that ResEdit isn't hard even for newbies. i didn't have anything else to learn on, and still don't need or really want anything else (one reason I've never downloaded Schmelta V before). The EV Bible perhaps doesn't do the best job of making it the most accessible to a wide audience, though. Perhaps there needs to be something else to address that... πŸ˜‰

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    • Well, ResEdit is very intimidating. I mean looking at it at first glance, it is sort of confusing. It takes about 5 seconds to learn, however. I use Schmelta-V for missions, but that's because it's just quicker for me.

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      "Out of all the sperm, I was the fastest."
      Check out my new EV website: (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/")The Legion(/url).

    • I didn't ask you to tell me what to do to see what I am doing wrong. I asked what I was doing wrong.
      I already have everything that can tell me what, but I can't seem to find out what I am doing wrong.
      I'm about to give up and pay someone else to do the Plug for me.

      So, what am I doing wrong dammit!

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    • Calm down. No one said that making a plug-in was easy. I'm not sure what you are doing wrong because I'm not looking at your plug-in file. Not get resedit and the ev bible from evula.com, have someone send you the template and read. That's all I can tell you without having your plugin file on my hard drive.

      Why would you pay someone to do a plug for you? I've never heard of that before.

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      "Out of all the sperm, I was the fastest."
      Check out my new EV website: (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/")The Legion(/url).

    • I unno, because my Plug sounds really cool! And rare too!

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    • sigh. This should really go in the Plug-in Development forum. It's off-topic for this forum. However, I'll help you anyway. (karma++ πŸ˜‰ )

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      Originally posted by The Space Between:
      **Okay, I'm trying to make the pilot have to do the following:

      Accepts the mission. Then when he liftsoff from Earth, Bounty Hunter Kestrels are supposed to jump in and attack him.

      Instead, Confed Shuttles with the STR name of Bounty Hunter jump in and are againts him. But when they are blasted by the pilot, the pilot is attacked by nearby Confeds. I want him to be good with the Confeds.
      I entered the following for the Ships and Auxilary Ships:
      Amount: 8
      Type: Pirate Kestrel
      Location: Follow Player
      Aux Amount: 5
      Type: Pirate Corvette
      Aux Location: Follow Player

      So, what's my problem? ANd what's an Auxilary Ship?? DANGIT!

      ANd don't tell me that ResEdit is easier, cuz it's not!

      **

      It sounds like you have the wrong dude set. If you'll suffer through using Resedit for a brief moment, you could open it up and check what you have in the "shipdude" field of that mission. For the above, it should be 161, and the "auxshipdude" should be 159. If it is those things, and shuttlecraft are still showing up, try increasing EV's memory allocation -- it may not be a problem with your mission at all, but sometimes when EV's memory gets tight it gets confused.

      BTW, if you want bounty hunter kestrels, well, there aren't any dΓΌdes in the EV Data file with Kestrels as the ships and mercenaries as the government, so you'd need to create your own dΓΌde resource to have that. Pirates aren't bounty hunters -- they're the prey. πŸ˜„

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      Originally posted by Macavenger:
      **I know about EVula's already, and I've tried the addons page.
      **

      The Utilities page of the Add-Ons section is what you want.

      EV Bible: (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/cgi-bin/vftp/dl-redirect.pl?path=ev/utilities&file;=EVBible.sit")http://www.ambrosias...ile=EVBible.sit(/url)

      EV Bible Annotated Edition (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/cgi-bin/vftp/dl-redirect.pl?path=ev/utilities&file;=EVBibleAnnotatedEdition11.hqx")http://www.ambrosias...edEdition11.hqx(/url)

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      Originally posted by ares1:
      I failed algebra, and I can use S h melta-V ...

      I wouldn't tease anyone about spelling if I were you, ares1. πŸ˜›

      s-c-h-m-e-l-t-a. dash. v.

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      Originally posted by Macavenger:
      **I can't definitively say ResEdit is easier, since I haven't used Schmelta V, but based on your problems, it looks to me like it is.;)
      **

      Schmelta-V is easier for missions, Space is just doing it wrong.

      Space, you have it set to have Bounty Hunter Kestrels come out, not shuttles pretending to be Bounty Hunters.

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    • Yeah, I know Luke. I am sending you the Plug now. IF you have EVE, please take a look at the Plug.

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    • Is EVE the same as EV-Edit? If your plugins are messed up and you are using ev edit, then that's your problem.

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      "Out of all the sperm, I was the fastest."
      Check out my new EV website: (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/")The Legion(/url).

      (This message has been edited by ares1 (edited 09-23-2001).)

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      Originally posted by ares1:
      **Is EVE the same as EV-Edit? If you're plugins are messed up and you are using ev edit, then that's your problem.
      **

      Tsk, tsk. It should be "your" not "you're," ares. πŸ˜‰

      Space, I didn't get any plug-in. My e-mail is ray.mueller@verizon.net. And if you are talking about EV-Edit, sorry, but I will never again use that crappy software on my computer. I could look at it in Schmelta, though, if you want me to.

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    • Disregard that I am sending it to you. I got rid of that mission.

      And yes, I am using EV-Edit. But I only use it to make new governments and outfits, stuff like that. I'm using Schmelta-V for missions. I am going to release a teaser plug on this site. And on my team's and mine.
      The Plug Teaser will be called Space Between Time Teaser.

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    • Cool. Who is on your team?

      You really should use res-edit. If you use Ev-Edit instead, you had better have a few beta releases to make sure its not going to erase hard drives. πŸ™‚

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      --ares
      "Out of all the sperm, I was the fastest."
      Check out my new EV website: (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/")The Legion(/url).

    • Thanks for the support ares1! Finally. Anyway, I only use EVE for making ships, governments, and outfits. I use Schmelta-V for missions, persons, fleets, text, you get the idea.
      BTAS (Between Time and Space) is compatible with everything, even Windows Mac emulator, just as long as you have enough memory to allocate to it.
      Special Updated Info:
      BTAS v1.2b <>up to 10 systems newly made
      BTAS v1.2b <>up to 2 fleets newly made
      BTAS v1.2b <>up to 2 governemts newly made
      BTAS v1.2b <>up to two ships newly made
      BTAS v1.2b <>up to one outfit newly made
      BTAS v1.2b <>up to 3 missions newly made

      This is just the Beta version. A teaser (Demo) version is available in the add-ons section of this EV site. It is already outdated though.

      BTAS v1.3b will be released 9.26.2001 or sooner.

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      (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/ev_evo_spacebetweensoftware/")http://www.geocities...btweensoftware/(/url)

    • You really, really, really should use ResEdit. Ev-Edit is... unstable. I'd like to quote someone, though I can't remember who, "Using Ev-Edit is like playing Russian Roulette".

      Shmelta-V is pretty safe, and EV-dev map is okay to use for some stuff, but EV-Edit really is not a tool you want to use for making things you will release to the general public.

      And who is on your team other than you?

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      --ares
      "Out of all the sperm, I was the fastest."
      Check out my new EV website: (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/")The Legion(/url).