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    • Problems with EV Override StarWars


      I experienced some many problems with non-existing planets (like Dur) and missing hyper-ways in the Goelitz system (I solved this problem by using ResEdit).
      Did anyone else experience such problems and if so, how did you solve them? Is there a patch available?

      YoBert

    • Everyone has those problems and there is no patch. The guy who wrote the plug did it purely as a vehicle for those lovely ship graphics and landing PICTs. He wasn't too fussy about plot, bugs, dialogue etc. and he was quite open about it.

      What the plug needs is a full re-write, but given that Lucasfilms has started releasing SW films again (the plug came out when SW was essentially dormant) you may get into copyright difficulties if you try this.

      Sorry I can't help more,

      ~R~

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      "The nature of all software is to be inherently broken and non-functional, otherwise it would lose its essential softwareness. Software is not software unless it sucks."

      -- Sami Lempinen f1sale@vuokko.uta.fi

    • Don't worry its well under way,
      Its not so much a rewrite but rather a much larger and more accurate star wars Plug.It will allow for mission packs with the potential for spanning all of the Star wars saga.And will make use of Kris Hausers Star wars Sprites.

      It also contains new graphics of the same style and quality as SW2 with new ships which will include amongst others- the Cloashape fighter, correlian gunship,lancer frigate,Slave II,Strike Cruiser,Misthunter,Trilon Aggressor and all the other bounty hunter ships.

      I have been meaning to show some screenshots to the boards but Snapz pro seems to nasty things to my Mac so much that it is virtualy unusable.

      I'm hoping that copyright really won't be a problem as it is a non profit enterprise and considering the thousands of SW sites on the web use of graphics and imagery isn't likely to cause a shock.

      ALso out of interest what do people want to see from a Star wars Plug??
      I know SW2 had to many problems to mention.

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      felt his body constrict,
      felt it sucking his soul from the very depths
      of his being,felt his whole personality being drawn into the
      Runesword.

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      (This message has been edited by Stormbringer (edited 06-13-2000).)

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      Originally posted by Stormbringer:
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      ALso out of interest what do people want to see from a Star wars Plug??
      I know SW2 had to many problems to mention.

      **

      Lots of big battle missions. Also a very,very, large universe. Lots of plot ,and making it more difficult to the missions to get the government ships!

      P.S. Sorry that my typing is poor I can't see my keyboard.

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      Originally posted by Stormbringer:

      **ALso out of interest what do people want to see from a Star wars Plug??
      I know SW2 had to many problems to mention.

      **

      The most important thing I think is a good story or better to say plenty of good stories. More text! Make the individual characters more interesting and difficult to handle with! There should always be the possiblity to go different ways, even in a mission, what means that you can betray your client, and the other sides notice that, so that you can continue the story with another client.

      There is much to do! Help needed?

      YoBert

      (This message has been edited by YoBert (edited 06-14-2000).)

    • OK heres some more details on how things are going.
      The Galaxy is based on the largest accurate star wars map availiable and contains all quadrants and sectors of the starwars galaxy with planets and systems accurately mapped.
      As the galaxy is so large the emphasize with regards to ships and outfits will be on variety.Using individual makes and models of weapons rather than the vauge
      descriptions of SW2 for example at the moment there is 5 varieties of Turbolaser batteries, each with there own advantages and dissadvantages.
      THere will also be the same variety for blackmarket Upgrades- making full use of
      the negative and new Modtypes from EVO 1.0.2.allowing for the dramatic upgradig of stock ships which is often seen in star wars- Wild Karrde,Millenium falcon etc..
      IT will also include a large variety of Marine outfits such as Stormtroopers, gamorreans,Rebel troops,Royal Guard, etc.

      So far we have been concerntrating mostly on creating all the new ships and working out a combat system.with the the help of 1.0.2 the combat system is far superior to the farce of SW2, we have been trying to create a starwars feel
      to the combat with emphasize on fighter dogfights.And as it is at the moment it is very challenging.

      The missions will follow what I think is a pretty revolutionary format for EV plugins.The completed plugin will have two parts a base plugin containing the galaxy and all the associated resources as well as the stock variety of ships.
      There will then be another 'Mission pack' plug containing missions and associated resources for a specific period of the Star wars Saga for example the original trilogy or the Era of Grand Admiral Thrawn.The mission pack will also contain any special ships or graphics/movies associated with the perio i.e- Death star,Suncrusher,scimitars,etc. This superscedes many of the llimitations of the EVO engine which might cause problems for a plug such as this.
      The emphasize on missions will be on open ended missions not playing replacements for major charachters but interacting with the central events and charachters of the Star wars Universe with diverse open ended mission structures, and of course big battles,

      This is the status of the Plug so far-
      47 basic ships so far.Only three more to go.
      Combat system is being tested.
      Outfits and weapons done.
      All sectors+most systems in place.

      For those interested in helping-There are 3 people working on this so far,and as far as I can see theres not much which needs a lot of help with.But if anyone has knowledge of Bryce and/or other 3D programs then we would appreciate some more graphics work as our Graphics Guy has a lot of work on his hands.Also if you are interested in helping and have a good knowledge of either Star wars or EV editing then then your help would be appreciated.BTW-does anybody any starwars resources such as WEG RPG Source books etc. or the guide to weapons and armements or knows of any useful SW web resources??
      At the moment I'm working from loads of novels the galaxy map and the star wars encyclopedia.
      For those interested in either helping or beta testing then mail me.
      whooo this post is long...=)

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      'Stormbringer!' he cried and then the
      hellsword struck his chest.
      He felt the icy touch of the blade against his heart,
      felt his body constrict,
      felt it sucking his soul from the very depths
      of his being,felt his whole personality being drawn into the
      Runesword.

      [mailto:jr.watkins@virgin.
      net](http://mailto:jr.watkins@virgin.<br />
      net)jr.watkins@virgin.
      net

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      Originally posted by Stormbringer:
      **For those interested in either helping or beta testing then mail me.
      whooo this post is long...=)
      **

      For quite interesting information about StarWars you should get some Roleplaying-Game Books, for they have thought about it all and have good ideas. For some online information I have this address: (url="http://"http://www.the-chaos-crew.com")http://www.the-chaos-crew.com(/url)
      Sure, you have to transform the sheets for EV, but that's no problem, isn't it?

      BTW I would like to beta-test the new plug-ins, so if they are ready enough send them to starwars@mediamorphosis.de
      Thanx!

      YoBert

    • Than, this is a resource I already knew about the galaxy map is the most accurate on the web.The rests pretty campaign specific.

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      'Stormbringer!' he cried and then the
      hellsword struck his chest.
      He felt the icy touch of the blade against his heart,
      felt his body constrict,
      felt it sucking his soul from the very depths
      of his being,felt his whole personality being drawn into the
      Runesword.

      [mailto:jr.watkins@virgin.
      net](http://mailto:jr.watkins@virgin.<br />
      net)jr.watkins@virgin.
      net

    • Uh, personally, I'd like to see some good grammer and correct spelling. 😛

    • Key thing missing: if you have Karrde, you MUST have Mara Jade. She is elemental in everything after the Thrawn books, pretty much. Sorry to spoil if you haven't read yet, but she ends up marrying Luke Skywalker...

      The only novels you should really read if you want the basic plots: Courtship of Princess Leia, Thrawn trilogy, Jedi Academy trilogy, Corellian Trilogy, Hand of Thrawn books. Ignore young jedi knights whatsoever: it is diff from Hand of Thrawn future, and a hundred times worse, at least.

      I suppose the book where Luke dabbles in the dark side is important, but not essential. X-Wing series could be useful.

      I can't help with programming, but I know storylines like anything: I practically memorize the books I read. Don't worry, won't give suggestions just for it to be cool. I only want accurate.

      Can't wait to see the improvements: am really sick of nonexistent planets.

    • I totally agree with Maria about the YJK books.

      Now that summer vacation has set in it will be easier for me to get some work done on the galaxy. Oh, and I'm one of those three people. I'm going to draw up a rough draft of the map on paper before doing the actual Res-diting. If anyone knows of any systems they'd like to see that aren't in the (url="http://"http://www.lowlight.com/swmap/")galaxy map(/url) email me at William_Makley@sad17.k12.me.us

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    • Maria if your interested in helping with the plotlines then Mail me.
      At the moment the mission pack being developed is for the original trilogy but missions and ships for the Thrawn trilogy will be on the way.

      Hi William I've finished of the last of the new outfits today.

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      'Stormbringer!' he cried and then the
      hellsword struck his chest.
      He felt the icy touch of the blade against his heart,
      felt his body constrict,
      felt it sucking his soul from the very depths
      of his being,felt his whole personality being drawn into the
      Runesword.

      [mailto:jr.watkins@virgin.
      net](http://mailto:jr.watkins@virgin.<br />
      net)jr.watkins@virgin.
      net

    • Hey this the web board, and on the web board I'm LoneIgadzra. 🙂

      Oh and sorry to contradict what you were saying in your large SWEVO promoting post about systems, I made the stupid mistake of not giving each sector enough room. This is going to be more complex than I anticipated because some sectors have dozens of systems and some have 2.

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      - Lone "Darn, its not in the spellchecker!" Igadzra