Research and other OOC comments should go in here from now on.

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The time countdown should still be posted in the main topic though, just so everyone is sure to be able to see it.

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Is Dark Jet still playing? He hasn't posted yet.

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Due to a last minute doctor appointment, i will be away most of today. Jimbob, i saw that you were waiting for me for "other issues". If it can wait untill... i dunno... i'd estimate around 8pm EST, you can talk to me then.
If it can not wait, moderate on what you think is right.

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Originally posted by The Cheat:
**The Cheat purchases 4 Kestrels and adds them to his attack fleet. The Cheat orders his attack fleet to go to Torgo and attempt to conquer it.

(Torgo System)
The Eegras Assault Fleet enters the system. The Kestrels quickly launch their lightnings and posisiton them behind the corvettes. The corvettes and kestrels scan the surface for the main space dock and posisiton themselfs so that any ship that lifts off would be in direct range of all cannons and rockets.

"To the Torgo People. Lay down your weapons and join the Eegras Federation. We wish not to use force, but will if we have to."

The Fleet stands by for the reply.

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Eegras attack Fleet:
4 kestrels
3 Lightnings
4 Corvettes
15 Defenders
Location: Torgo

Defense Fleet
5 kestrels
10 corvettes
35 lightnings
15 Hawks

**

This post SHOULD be partially revoked on the basis that The Cheat did not have enough money for 4 Kestrels. This was posted on the 16th(i think), on which he had only 5M to his name, and even with the 17th's income he would only have enough for 1 Kestrel. However, i am willing to let it slide, because it doesnt look like he spent all of his 50M for his initial fleet.

The attack on Torgo may continue, but The Cheat does have the Kestrels.

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Cheezy_Cracker, you're post is revoked under the fact that you have gotten the Propus battle and Tiber battle confused.

You moved your fleet to Tiber, and began fighting a fight that was at Propus.

Please edit your post to reflect the actual battle raging at Tiber. I will edit this post in a minute to give you the conditions of that fight.

I have been talking to Consul Bob, and you can expect a message from him in the story reguarding your new orders.

(EDIT)

Tiber
Third Confed Fleet

14 Frigates, all damaged to some degree.

Tiber System Defenses:
4 Cruisers

Third Rebel Fleet:
7 Cruisers
35 Destroyers, 5 more heavy damage (and in rear of line)
23 Mantas

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(This message has been edited by U.E. Admiral (edited 08-17-2004).)

(This message has been edited by U.E. Admiral (edited 08-17-2004).)

nfreaders post doesn't make any sense. He's inside of the system center, meaning he can't jump, and sandwiched between the system defense fleet and the Rebel Third Fleet, the Third Fleet standing in the way of his jump to hyperspace. But somehow he manages to jump, apparently without casualties?

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He did not jump yet, and he did not take any casualties, because i assume both sides halted fire to consider the Rebel's order to stand down and retreat.

He also got a little confused as to what was happening where. This can be avoided by giving the battles a header like:

Tiber
<post here>

That can be done by typing " ( b)Tiber( /b) " in the posting text window.
Please do so in all future battles. You can use my posts as a model.

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(This message has been edited by U.E. Admiral (edited 08-17-2004).)

Note:
It is absurd to think that a system like Propus could support 20 Cruisers and 20 frigates. When only the largest and most important of the Confedate planets in the game could support them Earth, Ruby, Centauri, and I think Star dock alpha. And all repel planets having 15 cruisers and 35 destroyers is equally as absurd. C'mon guys. That makes those planets almost invincible to other attack fleets of indepenant planets and Pirate planets. That means basically only the Confederates can attack the Rebels and visa versa. Give me a minute to look up my research, I will have one though.

Also, if we want to install something on our entire fleet like say...extra fuel tanks can be research that free of charge or do we have to pay? Also, if we have to pay I don't think it is fair for people to research super powerful weapons they made up and then installt them for free. They will have to come up with a price per unit if they want to install it on any ships.

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Originally posted by U.E. Admiral:
**He did not jump yet, and he did not take any casualties, because i assume both sides halted fire to consider the Rebel's order to stand down and retreat.

He also got a little confused as to what was happening where. This can be avoided by giving the battles a header like:

Tiber
<post here>

That can be done by typing " ( b)Tiber( /b) " in the posting text window.
Please do so in all future battles. You can use my posts as a model.

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Yes. I was confuzed by your post right after my second to last post. You didn't mention tiber anywhere in the post, soooooo.... And my ships are heading out for a jump.

Which gives me an idea. Treaties. First one: When an enemy is retreating, all ships are to stand down and or hold fire.This is due to the fact that if a ship explodes with a hyperspace feild open, it causes a huge explosion (Huge, kills everyone in the system huge). Comments?

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Originally posted by Swithich:
**Note:
It is absurd to think that a system like Propus could support 20 Cruisers and 20 frigates. When only the largest and most important of the Confedate planets in the game could support them Earth, Ruby, Centauri, and I think Star dock alpha. And all repel planets having 15 cruisers and 35 destroyers is equally as absurd. C'mon guys. That makes those planets almost invincible to other attack fleets of indepenant planets and Pirate planets. That means basically only the Confederates can attack the Rebels and visa versa. Give me a minute to look up my research, I will have one though.

Also, if we want to install something on our entire fleet like say...extra fuel tanks can be research that free of charge or do we have to pay? Also, if we have to pay I don't think it is fair for people to research super powerful weapons they made up and then installt them for free. They will have to come up with a price per unit if they want to install it on any ships.

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By playing an independent or pirate you submit yourself to being inferior.
With attack fleets of 5 Rebel Cruisers, 50 Rebel Destroyers, and some extra mantas(often more than this), a fleet of 20 Confed Cruisers and 20 Frigates is nessisary to offer an effective barrier.
You may research technology and ships that rival the confederate and rebel ones in order to prepare for an attack on them. Again, by playing an indie, you submit yourself to a slow start.

Ship modification is not allowed. If you want, for example, the extra fuel, i would have to make you research a new vessel entirly. Depending on the ship and it's specifications and modifications, the research time for it can take from 1 Day to 14 Days. You will however, have to buy a whole new fleet of modified Corvettes with extra fuel rather than upgrade existing ones.

I understand this is rather unreasonable, but it keeps the possiblity of "100 different Corvette mods doing battle with eachother" from happening...

You will have to make do with what you have until you design some of your own ships or contract someone to design them for you.

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Originally posted by nfreader:
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Which gives me an idea. Treaties. First one: When an enemy is retreating, all ships are to stand down and or hold fire.This is due to the fact that if a ship explodes with a hyperspace feild open, it causes a huge explosion (Huge, kills everyone in the system huge). Comments?

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Sorry, the huge explosion theory doesnt make any sense at all.
Still, if the Confeds and Rebels want to agree not to fire at a retreating opponent, i see nothing wrong with that.

Please note that in my interpertation, if you demand surrender you are halting fire in order to give the enemy a chance to think about and reply to your demand. If not, well, there's no point in demanding surrender is there?

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Originally posted by nfreader:
Yes. I was confuzed by your post right after my second to last post. You didn't mention tiber anywhere in the post, soooooo.... And my ships are heading out for a jump.

Not unless they can break through my blockade, which they most assuredly can't. You've been given an ultimatum: Surrender your fleet or die.

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Which gives me an idea. Treaties. First one: When an enemy is retreating, all ships are to stand down and or hold fire.This is due to the fact that if a ship explodes with a hyperspace feild open, it causes a huge explosion (Huge, kills everyone in the system huge). Comments?(

1. That'd make for too easy of a cheap tactic. Jump in, prepare to jump, self-destruct, and send in your fleet to mop things up.
2. Why should I let you retreat? You'll just try to attack me again later.

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Originally posted by U.E. Admiral:
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Please note that in my interpertation, if you demand surrender you are halting fire in order to give the enemy a chance to think about and reply to your demand. If not, well, there's no point in demanding surrender is there?**

Correct: The Third Fleet is not firing unless fired upon or the Confeds try to move into hyperspace range.

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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
**Correct: The Third Fleet is not firing unless fired upon or the Confeds try to move into hyperspace range.

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You ordered their retreat yes? How can they retreat if you wont let them move?
I am a little confused.

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2. Why should I let you retreat? You'll just try to attack me again later.

I just caught this. So... if he surrenders... then what?
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(This message has been edited by U.E. Admiral (edited 08-17-2004).)

So, lemme get this straight:

I surrender and we don't know what happens, or I can hyperspace out and cause a big stink? hrm...
(if I retreat and attack later, that's ok. It happens. Get over it.)

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does only the rebel leader have the authority to use the funds we get everyday and do research or can we do it also. another question if i wanted to increase my fleet size how would i do it?

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Originally posted by Omran Khan:
**does only the rebel leader have the authority to use the funds we get everyday and do research or can we do it also. another question if i wanted to increase my fleet size how would i do it?

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Ah, good, you found this thread. Most questions should be asked here.

Only the leaders may use their government funds or research technology unless they state otherwise.

You get more ships from your leader. He will buy you ships and send them to you. The time these take to get to you can vary from instantaniously to several days depending how far away from a government shipyard you are.

Anything else?

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Originally posted by Omran Khan:
does only the rebel leader have the authority to use the funds we get everyday and do research or can we do it also. another question if i wanted to increase my fleet size how would i do it?

Only the Rebel leader may. Right now you have been suspended from controlling your fleet due to the fact that you haven't shown up. Assuming you show up regularly, control will be handed back to you once the Battle of Tiber is over.

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You ordered their retreat yes? How can they retreat if you wont let them move?
I am a little confused.

Haven't ordered their retreat. I have ordered that they surrender or perish. They're inside the system center, unable to jump, and the Third Rebel Fleet is blocking their path to open space (system defense fleet stands between them and the planet itself).

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I just caught this. So... if he surrenders... then what?

Ships become prizes of war and his surviving crew become POWs, in accordance with the laws of war. The Confeds can raise a new fleet for him if they wish.

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I surrender and we don't know what happens, or I can hyperspace out and cause a big stink? hrm...
(if I retreat and attack later, that's ok. It happens. Get over it.)

You can't hyperspace out, that's the thing. Either way, your fleet is dead.

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