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Originally posted by The Cheat:
**You can take over the universe without a cheat.
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hee hee hee, ho ho ho, ha ha ha!! funny you should say that, considering your name!

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I've dominated every planet in the galaxy, with the exception of Earth and Stardock Alpha. Yes, I took Sirgil III and Ruby without cheating. Took me four hours each, but I did it. It was over the summer several years ago when my parents wouldn't let me go outside, so I had plenty of time to waste.

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aaaox

i tookover sirgil three in ten minutes ,its sirgil starport thats the hard one.
and i've taken it over in a half n hour."WITH OUT CHEATING" and if it took you 4 hours u must not be varry good at EV "-esw-dragoon_77"

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Zax

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Originally posted by aaaox:
**i tookover sirgil three in ten minutes ,its sirgil starport thats the hard one.
and i've taken it over in a half n hour."WITH OUT CHEATING" and if it took you 4 hours u must not be varry good at EV "-esw-dragoon_77"

**

lemme see, Sirgil Starport has a defence count of 11,000 ships. 11,000 ships in 30 mins. That makes 1100 ships in 3 mins and 366 ships per minute. I'm assuming you were using four proton turrets as your main weapons since any secondaries would run out very quickly. Each proton bolt takes off 1.5 units of sheilding. You can fire 12 proton bolts per second, that makes 18 units of sheilding per second, but since proton turrets are fairly innacurate I'll assume 70% of your bolts hit your targets. That makes for roughly 13 units of sheilding per second. Mantas (Sirgil starport's defence fleet consists of mantas) have 20 units of sheilding, roughly 22 if you include sheild recharge rates. That means that you can take out 0.6 mantas per second, or 35 mantas per minute, merely one tenth of the ships you need to destroy. In conclusion, you're lying.

Also, eswdragoon must either be lying or have a very poor sense of timing, since he'd have to destroy 45 mantas per minute.

(EDIT)forget EVERYTHING I said, Sirgil starport has rebel destroyers as their defence fleet. Destroyers have 200 units of sheilding and 50 units of armour. Since proton turrets have equal damage ratings for each that makes for 250 units. Since destroyers are larger targets lets assume you have a 100% accuracy rating. That makes for 18 units per second, or 0.05 destroyers per second. That makes for 2.6 destroyers per minute, so to take over Sirgil Starport you'd have to spend 4230 minutes, or 70.5 hours or 3 days. And that's assuming you can hover over the planet holding down the fire button and manage not to be shred to pieces by the destroyers. Therefore, you're ALL lying :p.(/edit)

(edit2)even if you had your ship topped to the nines with four proton turrets, four laser cannons and four neutron cannons and four mantas each with three laser cannons with 100% accuracy - that'd make 60 units of damage per second (roughly), or 14.4 destroyers per minute. It'd take 764 minutes or 12 HOURS WITH THE BEST WEAPONS SYSTEM IN THE GAME AND 100 PERCENT ACCURACY(/edit2)
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Sejuk

30 minutes :D, I wish I was that good

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Zacha Pedro

11,000 ships? Are you sure it's not approximately the number in the defcount field? if it is, it must be interpreted this way: if it's superior to 1000, substract 1000. Of the number that remains, the first digit (the one of the units) is the number of ships in one wave, and everything else is the total number of ships ×10. There are 1000 ships total. Though not feasible in 30 minutes, it can be done in 4 hours.

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Originally posted by Zacha Pedro:
**11,000 ships? Are you sure it's not approximately the number in the defcount field? if it is, it must be interpreted this way: if it's superior to 1000, substract 1000. Of the number that remains, the first digit (the one of the units) is the number of ships in one wave, and everything else is the total number of ships *10. There are 1000 ships total. Though not feasible in 30 minutes, it can be done in 4 hours.

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I apologise for my calculation error, but 3 days divided by 10 is roughly 7 hours - still implausible. Remember, these are rebel destroyers, not mantas.

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Originally posted by Zax:
SPLURG

I love you, Zax.

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I have no doubt that someone could and or would sit and spend 8-42 hours taking over Sirgil Starport. Hell, I'm sure we've all gone on all-night EV sprees. Some of us more than others. For example, I did it. That sorta slaps me in the face if i say Zax is completely correct.

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aaaox

first off zax its more like a 5 thousand ships, and it goes alot better with 6 rebel cruiser and they each have 4 mantas. plus i'm a rebel cruiser with 4 mantas and i have a laser cannon,5 proton cannons,2 missiles racks,92 missiles,4 proton turrets,4 sheild capacitors so i dont get shreded,a sheild booster,2 javelin pods, 999 javilen missiles.
those helpd a lot.with two mass expantions to fit it all in.

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Originally posted by aaaox:
**first off zax its more like a 5 thousand ships, and it goes alot better with 6 rebel cruiser and they each have 4 mantas. plus i'm a rebel cruiser with 4 mantas and i have a laser cannon,5 proton cannons,2 missiles racks,92 missiles,4 proton turrets,4 sheild capacitors so i dont get shreded,a sheild booster,2 javelin pods, 999 javilen missiles.
those helpd a lot.with two mass expantions to fit it all in.

**

/me turns brain on

okey dokey. So, you're saying you destroyed 5,000 rebel destroyers with six rebel cruisers plus your ship with various weapons. Each rebel ship has four mantas each with three laser cannons, as well as your four. That makes for 16 laser cannons. Laser cannons roughly 1 unit of damage per 3/2 of a second. That makes for 18 units of damage per second - swivel lasers are fairly innacurate though, so lets give them 70% accuracy - which makes for 16.8 units of damage per second. Each rebel cruiser is kitted out with 3 proton turrets, 8 heavy rockets and 20 missiles. That makes for 18 proton turrets, 48 heavy rockets and 120 missiles. The proton turrets will do 4.5 units of damage per second. Multiplied by 18 that gives 81 units of damage per second - with around 80% accuracy that makes for 64.8 units of damage per second. 120 missiles do roughly 10 units of damage per missile, which makes for 1200 units. 48 heavy rockets make for another 1200 units. Your ship had five proton cannons - which do 1.5 units of damage per second, which makes for 7.5 units per second, given 80% accuracy that makes for 6 units per second. Four proton turrets do 18 units of damage per second but with 80% accuracy do 14 per second and 999 javelins do around a unit of damage per rocket, so that's 1000 units.

Add this up, and your arsenal does 101.6 damage per second. And your secondaries knock off 3400 units as well. Each rebel destroyer has 250 units of shields. 250*5000 = 1250000. Knock off your 3400 units that makes 1246600 units. That divided by 97.6 means it will take 12269.69 seconds to destroy the fleet. That makes 204.495 minutes, or 3.41 hours, well past your 'claim' of 30 minutes. Also, sheild enhancers only add 1.5 units of sheilding, sweet bugger all, and wouldn't stop 5,000 destroyers. Also, I have made an awful lot of assumptions. Firstly, that every escort is constantly hammering away at the warships, from practise this is simply not true - I once took the time to capture 6 rebel cruisers and they sucked horse hair at planet domination, since they move like snails and cannot keep up with your or the fast destroyers - the same goes for the mantas so some extent. Also, you'll often find several mantas attacking a ship with nobody else attacking it - manta strafes done by the AI are very poor and often the sheild recharge can compensate for any damage you do.

In short, please stop with your ridiculous claims

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(This message has been edited by Zax (edited 04-26-2004).)

aaaox

what grade are u in or are u a grown man who has nothing better to do than to try and prove me wrong at something that i did.

and if that math stuff is true "impressive"

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-esw-dragoon_77

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Originally posted by aaaox:
**first off zax its more like a 5 thousand ships...

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There isn't a single planet or station in the game that has more than 3000 ships in its defense fleet.

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mrxak

I have conquered every planet, moon, and station in the universe except for Earth. That was a long time ago though. My numerous attempts on Earth all failed. I just got bored and it just wasn't worth it to me.

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Zax, that was the greatest application of mathematical skill. Ever.

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And also a very nice justification to ignore the more difficult planets.

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