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-Unreal Centipede
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I would like to join, how about Jadza for me

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what's this? i was just fighting a 'fed cruiser in Tau Ceti and now what the hell happened? i'm in this "Eltor" System... damn wormholes

Just to set the record straight for those who don't know... I was approached a few weeks ago by Unreal about a Great War webstory. I offered to help him in the conception and moderation of the story, and then didn't hear anything about it up to the time I posted this topic. I had thought about doing this type of webstory for a long time but had essentially forgotten about it. Thanks to Unreal my interest was rekindled, and when I hadn't heard from him, and couldn't get in touch with him, I decided to take the initiative myslef and start up this story.

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Now that we seem to have a good number of players, I'm curious to know what types of governments/technology you all intend to play. Keep in mind that in this story proton and neutron weapons don't exist, and neither do almost all of the ships common in EV. If you guys could, please send me an email with this kind of information in it. Also if you have any questions concerning the ships and tech allowed in the story please feel free to get in touch with me by either AIM, email, or posting here.

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I claim, in addition to Nemesis, Topaz and Virgo. Ipvicus has cleared this.

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Good luck, gang - looks like fun.

Edit: While I don't have the time to participate in a webstory right now, I'd share a few thoughts, if I may...

Since these are the early days of the Human expansion, I would think that there would be very little in the way of an organized Human Navy. Very few large ships, and based on the EV Docs, no Confed Cruisers, and almost no Confed Frigates.

In the early stages of the Alien attack, I would think that the ships employed by the Humans would be more like the Rebel ships - converted Argosies (Reb Destroyers), Rebel cruisers (they look like large pipes with wings) - basically stopgap vessels intended to hold the line until more modern equipment can come into service. Galactic Scourge's Light Frigates seem very appropriate for a pre-invasion fleet - they're probably all you'd need to deal with human pirates, so that's all a standing navy would have.

My 2 cents.

Cheers,
Guapo

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(This message has been edited by ElGuapo7 (edited 04-26-2003).)

Brilliant idea for a basis of a webstory. Anyone mind if I join?

I would like to play a small human group. Not a faction but an independent fleet attempting to unify the factions, before aliens appear. So I'd have no fleet production, continuous source of income or any research, making me a minor player even if I have a massive fleet.

I'm a little obsessed with meddling though and I'll suggest a couple things I may be jumping the gun but I like rules:
Point 1: 2-3 major human factions fighting before aliens come. Some smaller factions siding with any side, or neutral. (Most likely already thought of)
Point 2: Exceptionally limited alien fleets come in through wormhole type system in some remote system. (Personal favorite in orbit of Ruby)

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Very good points from both ElGuapo and Paranoid, I really appreciate the input from everyone and would like to hear anything you guys would like to bring up.

As far as the Human navies go, I pretty much agree with you ElGuapo. At this point in time I don't think any of the Confederation ships as they are in EV would exist. While there might be a close predecessor to the Confederate Frigate in service, there certainly wouldn't be anything like the Cruiser. While I'm not sure about the Argosy, there would certainly be Bulk and Light Freighters, and probably Luxury Liners and Executive Transport type ships as well. Mantas would be the standard starfighter I think, but others would certainly exist, perhaps something along the lines of the Starhawks in the Empire: War Without End. Come to think of it, the Weave member race ships from Empire are probably a very good example of the tech available to the Humans at this stage. My webstie for the unfortunatly dead Empire Webstory is still up, so you guys might want to check out it's (url="http://"http://members.aol.com/matrekie/empire/shipyards.htm")shipyard(/url) for the stats on those ships.

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Originally posted by Paranoid:
Point 1: 2-3 major human factions fighting before aliens come. Some smaller factions siding with any side, or neutral. (Most likely already thought of)
Point 2: Exceptionally limited alien fleets come in through wormhole type system in some remote system. (Personal favorite in orbit of Ruby)

Point 1: I don't know about out and out fighting, but I would think that a few of them would have pretty strained relationships. Think U.S. and China/Cuba. This would also contribute well to the storyline if the unification was written well.

Point 2: This is basicly what I had planned, except not quite in the same location... that's gonna be my little secret :). In case you guys don't know I'm going to be leading the Alien players.

(Edit)By the way Paranoid, it might be better if you chose an independant colony as a kind of base of operations for your fleet. You wouldn't be governing the planet, but you would have the advantage of a permanent base of operations and repair/refueling facilities.(/Edit)
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(This message has been edited by Vice Admiral Ipvicus (edited 04-27-2003).)

Ill join as a indapendant fleet with a base in Levo. Cence no one has clamed it. My fleet is as folows:

10 Defenders (Deleted untill later on in the game)
5 Agrosys (Deleted untill later on in the game)
7 Light Freighters
3 (captured from a fight aftermath more in the story) human mantas

is my fleet approved?

And finaly my income:
1000 CR per 5 posts
100 for freighting

Ipvicus Ill be on im to discuss if the deal of mod is still up

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-Unreal Centipede
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Oh, and the Rapier seems a rather dated design - possibly those would be around. They would probably be more of a frontline fighter then.

Cheers,
Guapo

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My role will be as leader of Sol; I will control Earth, Mars, and Luna (construction of Stardock Alpha has not begun). The government will be a representative democracy and we will have a large and powerful navy. The government only controls Sol but will look to unite humanity into the Confederation in order to defend the race from the aliens. Sol is very friendly to traders and other spacers.

I hope we will not need a sh*tload of confusing numbers in the story; just use common sense and let the mods tell you if you're being unrealistic. Ipvicus, could I co-moderate? I will be very fair.

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Originally posted by Unreal Centipede:
**Ill join as a indapendant fleet with a base in Levo. Cence no one has clamed it. My fleet is as folows:

10 Defenders
5 Agrosys
7 Light Freighters
3 (captured from a fight aftermath more in the story) human mantas

is my fleet approved?

And finaly my income:
1000 CR per 5 posts
100 for freighting

Ipvicus Ill be on im to discuss if the deal of mod is still up

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Just 1 thing, I thought Argosies were newish ships in the EV scenario, so they probably haven't been invented at this stage.

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Unreal, Defenders are new in EV, as are Argosies. If I were you I would wait a bit until we have some basic ships and tech cleared for everyone to use.

Luke, I would be happy to have you on as a mod. /me hands Luke a Sceptre of Ultimate Power*

• Ultimate power does not nesecarilly mean Ultimate over the other moderators, if I appoint any.

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Now, if my EV history is correct, the Great War stopped the Great Expansion, so there would be very primative super-lumial ships, maybe only with 2 or 3 jumps each, average, so maybe there should be a fuel ship that travels with the fleets, like the one in Galactic Scourge. Are there any ships at this timeframe that would be a "carrier"? The only one I can think of is the Kestral, but that is a new ship. I think there should be light freighters retrofitted to carry fighters

Also, do we even know where the aliens come from? Lets say we want to make a deep plunge into alien territory. Where would we go? I always say that alien space is beyond the Serpins Nebula, simply because it makes a natural border.

Once again, I claim the Jadzia system, which is would have been on the edge of Human space. I will take this opportunity to set up my fleet, if approved. I am including fuel tankers and the light freighter carriers but if Ipvicus or anyone else doesn't want them, just throw them out.
I will also say the ships as they would have been known at the time.
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New Bavaria
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2 Rapier Heavy Fighters
6 Defender Light Fighters
1 Light Freighter Retrofitted to carry 4 Defender Light Fighters
1 Fuel Tanker

Income:
700 CR per 5 posts
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Also, when is this thing going to start? Or is this even the right thread?
Again, Ipvicus, or anyone else, say something about those ships I suggested.

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what's this? i was just fighting a 'fed cruiser in Tau Ceti and now what the hell happened? i'm in this "Eltor" System... damn wormholes

Just another thing. Maybe you could include the Halibut and Condor Catamaran?

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I'll consider joining, although I am currently working on (url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum8/HTML/004831.html")Universal Ascendancy(/url), which is my first webstory, so don't count on my joining. I want to see more about different aspects of this story before I give a definate answer.

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Yes!!! In GS it talks about Jupiter spaceworks or whatever it's called, maybe we should work out some more of their ships. The Halibut would make a perfect predecessor to the Manta, which, in my opinion, was developed by the humans late in the war. The Halibut would work perfectly because, if you've ever seen it, the next generation space shuttle looks kindof similar to the Halibut.

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what's this? i was just fighting a 'fed cruiser in Tau Ceti and now what the hell happened? i'm in this "Eltor" System... damn wormholes

Ipvicus; for the Aliens, what are the shipsship-classes we'll have access to? I'm going to need to know for my initial post in the future.

Thanks,
Solel

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Okay, I can tell you guys are wanting to start making up fleets so I'll try to set some things straight. Almost all of the ships that exist in EV aren't around yet, the only ones I think would be are the following:

Early Manta (maybe without hyperspace engines or using fixed laser cannons)
Confederate Frigate Predecessor (Sol Government Only)
Light Freighters
Bulk Freighters
Couriers
Scoutships
Shuttles
Executive Transports
Luxury Liners

All of these ships would be more primitive than those we see in EV. Mostly likely with less range and decreased performance on some level.

In addition to these ships the players that are taking control of System wide governments are allowed to have their own ship and tech designs once they are cleared through me. Once again, I suggest you guys take a look at some of the ships in the plug Empire: War Without End. They are all listed in it's documentation. The ships used by the Hunn'sta, Calan and the more primitive Pirate ships are good examples of the tech level the humans have to work with.

Also, just so you guys know there will be no Alien occupied worlds at the begining of the story. However we get into this galaxy, there will be no way for us to produce new ships while we are here.

Almost forgot, we won't be using a credit based economy for the shipbuilding type stuff in this webstory, so there is no need for all that "10 Million Credits Per Page" type stuff. Once everyone has decided what classes of ships they are going to use me and Luke and any other mods will come up with a reasonable production rate for everyone.
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Up leaps the race of Earthmen, Out, far, and onward yet - Robert A. Heinlein, The Green Hills of Earth
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(This message has been edited by Vice Admiral Ipvicus (edited 04-28-2003).)

Alright, Ipvicus. I don't suppose I could have Centauri and one or two nearby systems you'd care to chuck at me? I'd leave it 'til the last minute, but it looks like they might go... I've skimmed through a few times, and I don't think Centauri has been taken... In-depth information and what have you will come later. Possibly.

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