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      Originally posted by Solel:
      **Well, considering that hyperspace and warp drives are not allowed by the laws of physics...

      Specifically, faster-than-light travel is forbidden by Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, as long as an object has mass. A warp drive that would create a space-time bubble big enough to hold a ship requires more energy than there is in the entire universe. Keep in mind?even if we did develop new unified field theories about the universe, Einsteinian physics, in all likelihood, would still hold true, just like Newton's laws of motion still hold true in the vast majority of cases.

      However, the laws of physics do allow for wormholes, so if you could artificially generate a wormhole and control where its end is produced, you could traverse great distances quickly. And if you could figure out a way to convert a ship and its passengers into a stream of tachyons?theoretical particles that can move faster than light and have no mass, if they exist?you could consequently move faster than light. However, you would be moving backwards in time, and you'd also need to devise some mechanism to reintegrate all the tachyons back into all the complicated structures they originally were, not to mention input a large amount of energy just to slow the tachyons down when you want to land somewhere.

      Right. But it's still nice and convenient to have a speedy form of transportation in the game to make those shipping deadlines. 😄

      Regards,
      Solel

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      Not to nitpick (okay, so that was a lie), but I find it interesting how you can declare that hyperspace and warp travel are ruled out by the laws of physics, yet seem think that it is possible to change particles into tachyons. While it is possible to change certain particles into others, the process is not really controllable since it involves annihilating the particles, turning them into energy, which then changes into particles with the same energy that may or may not be the same type as were initially destroyed.

      Tachyons are particles that would have a negative mass, which through Einstein's equations would force them to always travel at superluminal velocities. Of course, it would also seem to imply that they have negative energy, since the equations for energy of particles all involve mass, except for those with mass = 0. Perhaps we would need to extend the theory, but as things now stand, they would be undetectable since negative energy is not detectable, as it involves complex numbers, which are again not measurable. Interestingly, we do know that some particles can at times have negative energy, but we are unable to detect them during this phase, only before and after (it happens during quantum tunneling).

      And so long as we are using the word "theoretically" in a very loose fashion, warp travel is theoretically possible through manipulation of gravity and space time. Since gravity bends space, if you were to manipulate it in such a way as to contract the space in front of you and expand it behind you, you would "fall" accross the shrunken space at speeds not greater than light, but would travel faster then light would have covered that distance if it was uncontracted. Of course, while theory predicts gravitons, we have yet to observe them and certainly know of no way to produce or manipulate them.

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      Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **You searched Google? Oh. I thought you knew something of the language.

      **

      Sorry, old boy... 🙂

      I don't.

      Cheers,
      Guapo

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    • (quote)Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
      **Sorry, old boy...:frown: I thought I had a Internet friend who could talk it. We could even have had secret conversations...

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    • (quote)Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **:rolleyes:

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    • That's certainly true, and I did state that one would need to develop some means that would reintegrate the tachyons. The only reason I think that tachyonic travel is more likely than hyperspace travel is because tachyons, like the gravitons, are theoretical particles, and thus could exist, under the laws of physics.

      Oh, and thanks for that bit about the negative energy/quantum tunneling part. I'd heard of quantum tunneling, but I'd completely forgotten to take the negative energy bit into account.

      Gravitonic propulsion would be allowed, and your analysis to how it could be effective sounds about right, although it would probably be pretty complex to amass a large quantity of gravitons in a small region. Since there are similarities between the electromagnetic and gravitic forces, perhaps we will be able to one day control gravity so as to make it useful and practical propulsion, since we know how to use the electromagnetic force pretty effectively.

      And the possibility of such ideas as warp/hyperspace are in the same region as gravity propulsion: speculation. So I guess it could be argued that they both could work someday...

      Solel

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    • I think, based on the recent VSL theory, coupled with the existance of hyperspace LINES, meaning you can't go from Sol to Satori in one jump, that the ships harness "energy threads", along with with a theory in the EV Tech Folder that the hyperspace drives chanel gravity to the front of the ship, thus making a "gravatic hill" which the ship just slides down.

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      what's this? i was just fighting a 'fed cruiser in Tau Ceti and now what the hell happened? i'm in this "Eltor" System... damn wormholes

    • (quote)Originally posted by Destroyer E:
      **And you never wanted to have a conversation in secret with me?:p

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    • (quote)Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **:)

      Cheers,
      Guapo

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    • (quote)Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **I can have a secret conversation to anyone that can master Finnish or Swedish. Stop rolling your eyes.😕 Lets talk Wiggish. 😄

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    • (quote)Originally posted by Destroyer E:
      **I can't even master English.:p That is necessary to post on this board :p. Whats Wiggish? Is that a new language never heard before made by you?

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      Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
      **Learn Hungarian! That I DO speak.:)

      Cheers,
      Guapo

      **

      That is too hard thing to do! Its too far from Finnish.

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      Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **Why not?:p That is necessary to post on this board :p. Whats Wiggish? Is that a new language never heard before made by you?

      **

      Yes, or shall I say Ydesh.

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      Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **That is too hard thing to do! Its too far from Finnish.

      **

      Actually, they are part of the same Finno-Ugric language family. Hungarian, Finnish, Samoyed, and Nenets are very closely related.

      So there. 🙂

      Cheers,
      Guapo

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      Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
      **Actually, they are part of the same Finno-Ugric language family. Hungarian, Finnish, Samoyed, and Nenets are very closely related.

      So there. 🙂

      Cheers,
      Guapo

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      Yes, but only as legacy. As demonstrated how szivesen, barátom differs very much from Ei kestä, ystävä!. It is in practice very different. The only Ugric language a Finn can understand with ease is Estonian, because its literally much same. Estonia is only 80 km from Helsinki.

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      Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **Yes, but only as legacy. As demonstrated how szivesen, barátom differs very much from Ei kestä, ystävä!. It is in practice very different. The only Ugric language a Finn can understand with ease is Estonian, because its literally much same. Estonia is only 80 km from Helsinki.

      **

      True, but the language structure is similar. There's a new vocabulary, yes. But it's still an agglutinating language, isn't it?

      GUapo

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    • Can anyone speak Italian?

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      Originally posted by Destroyer E:
      **Can anyone speak Italian?

      **

      Not me atleast. I think your Wiggish is more exciting. I havent still understood the structure of it. 😛

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    • (quote)Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
      **Not me atleast. I think your Wiggish is more exciting. I havent still understood the structure of it.:)

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    • I know how to have a light conversation in Spanish. I can also say "I have a cat in my pants" and "Would you like to have a fiesta in my room?"
      😄

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      Originally posted by Jimbob:
      **I know how to have a light conversation in Spanish. I can also say "I have a cat in my pants" and "Would you like to have a fiesta in my room?"
      😄

      **

      Thats from a movie right?

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