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      Is there a good EV plug anyone knows of which makes the AI tougher to beat? And I mean much tougher....

      (I know there are tons of plugs. I don't know if any do this, but I also know lots of the plugs are ... dumb. This is why I specify "good".)

      Background: Another webstory seems to be bombing. It made me think, "The major complaint is battle posters are too often accused of making their opponents as stupid -- or even worse -- than the AI we have all gotten so accustomed to in EV. Somebody should make the AI more challenging. Then (maybe) this complaint about story posters would be less frequent. Then I thought how cool it would be, period."

      Suggestions...?

      - KK

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      methinks you will soon be able to play EV as a plug-in for Nova...

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      Originally posted by Kaptain Karl:
      **Is there a good EV plug anyone knows of which makes the AI tougher to beat? And I mean much tougher....

      (I know there are tons of plugs. I don't know if any do this, but I also know lots of the plugs are ... dumb. This is why I specify "good".)

      Background: Another webstory seems to be bombing. It made me think, "The major complaint is battle posters are too often accused of making their opponents as stupid -- or even worse -- than the AI we have all gotten so accustomed to in EV. Somebody should make the AI more challenging. Then (maybe) this complaint about story posters would be less frequent. Then I thought how cool it would be, period."

      Suggestions...?

      - KK

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      1. All weapons assigned to AI have double the range that players have.
      2. All AI ships have inflated shielding compared to the player.
      3. The AI ships have stronger weapons with less innaccuracy.
      4. The mask of the player ship is a LOT larger.

      Try that, and see how easy it is.

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      The EVO AI Upgrade makes the game's AI behave like EVO's, which is at least a modest improvement. Something similar might be possible for Nova's AI. However, I still don't think that's going to give AI ships quite the boost you're looking for. Rak's idea might work, bt is rather labor intensive.

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      Originally posted by General Rak:
      **1. All weapons assigned to AI have double the range that players have.
      2. All AI ships have inflated shielding compared to the player.
      3. The AI ships have stronger weapons with less innaccuracy.
      4. The mask of the player ship is a LOT larger.

      Try that, and see how easy it is.**

      Kool! So where is this plug, Rak. (Don't ask me to ResEdit or anything. I've had a "technological by-pass, you know.)
      "Mask?" What's that? (See tech by-pass...)

      - KK

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      Originally posted by Kaptain Karl:
      **Kool! So where is this plug, Rak. (Don't ask me to ResEdit or anything. I've had a "technological by-pass, you know.)
      "Mask?" What's that? (See tech by-pass...)
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      Well... the problem is there is no plug-in that exists like that. If I get some free time I could make it...but I think a port to Nova would be your best bet.

      A Mask is the profile of the ship. It defines the shape and size of your vessel.

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      Originally posted by Macavenger:
      **The EVO AI Upgrade makes the game's AI behave like EVO's, which is at least a modest improvement...

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      It also basically kills the monty python... something that's always made the game easy for poor sports.

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      What's the Monty Python?

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      Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
      **What's the Monty Python?
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      Nearly faints It's when you float away from your enemy at equal speed to your enemy while at the very envelope of your firing range. You can hit him, but he won't fire at you.

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      Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
      What's the Monty Python?

      For crying out loud, Bari, don't scare me like that! I almost had a heart attack.

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      Originally posted by Macavenger:
      **For crying out loud, Bari, don't scare me like that! I almost had a heart attack.

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      as did i.

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      Originally posted by General Rak:
      **Nearly faints It's when you float away from your enemy at equal speed to your enemy while at the very envelope of your firing range. You can hit him, but he won't fire at you.
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      Ah, yes. I remember being so impressed that I finally mastered the Monty. Now I only use it "once in a blue moon" ... just to be sure I still can. But it is such a "sucker" tactic it is not challenging anymore.

      Then I was so proud that I came up with (what I call) The Rosie ... as in "Ring around the...." The trouble is I have now learned Rosie even works "rather" easily on the Alien Fighters.

      Back to the topic ... that's why I am seeking new challenges. Thanks everybody.

      - KK

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      Well excuuuuuuuuuse me for not knowing that! gets all offended

      I used to do that on the fed ships in my old argosy...ah, the memories...

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      Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
      **Well excuuuuuuuuuse me for not knowing that! gets all offended
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      Not to worry. I didn't know the act was called that until someone at the Override forum about shot me a year ago. 😉

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      You could try to complete the game in a Scoutship, that would be tough.

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      Originally posted by Zax:
      You could try to complete the game in a Scoutship, that would be tough.

      Been there.... Done that.... Bought the T-shirt.

      (I have seen people post that they've done it in a Shuttle ... but I don't believe they played it "honestly". They must have ResEdited something, IMO.)

      - KK

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      Some people have done it in a shuttle? Wow, and I thought doing it in a 0-k nuclear fission powered space parrot was hard enough 😄

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      (This message has been edited by Zax (edited 05-28-2002).)

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