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Originally posted by Vice Admiral Ipvicus:
Are we ever gonna get a price on that Alien Heavy Frigate that BariSax designed? We will surely want to get out hands on some when page 7 comes around.

I can't price that without a speed number. Figure on ~20,000,000 though.

Skyblade - Minelayer is a toughie. Once again, I have a ship that really has nothing comparable. If I'm reading you right, those mines pack a wallop, though. Two would kill an Alien Cruiser. OTOH, they don't move. Very difficult to assess.I would probably have to say 25 mil, but I'm quite open to debate on that, if you'd like, since I'm not really sure how to price those mines.

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yes but thouse mines would give an un fair advantage agents the Aliens because 2 to kill a carrir(sp) well then the aliens need a equal weapon that inflicts that kind of damage. Also its the controler of the weapon that decides which ship it hits and of course they would destroy the larger ships thus killing off most of our chance of surviving an attack.

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Originally posted by Jager:
yes but thouse mines would give an un fair advantage agents the Aliens because 2 to kill a carrir(sp) well then the aliens need a equal weapon that inflicts that kind of damage. Also its the controler of the weapon that decides which ship it hits and of course they would destroy the larger ships thus killing off most of our chance of surviving an attack.

Equal Weapon: Drill Bombs. Besides, warfare is all about unfair advantages. For example, my tactics give me an unfair advantage over the Pirates, as they don't seem capable of stopping me, and indeed often walk right into them.

I think it would be more difficult to decide which ship a stationary mine hits. I could certainly deliver them in a method that would cause a couple to hit a specific ship, but probably lose the minelayer in the process. In general though, it would be more random, and they might just take out some fighters.

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(quote)Originally posted by Macavenger:
**I can't price that without a speed number.;)

Also, since the Minelayer carries its own set of fighters for protection, I'd say go ahead and price it at 30,000,000 credits. If that sounds alright with you...

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
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I think it would be more difficult to decide which ship a stationary mine hits. I could certainly deliver them in a method that would cause a couple to hit a specific ship, but probably lose the minelayer in the process. In general though, it would be more random, and they might just take out some fighters.

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Actually, what I had in mind was mining a system before a battle or engagement (not during the thick of the action). They'll always be there until something hits them...

Also, these things throw shrapnel everywhere. Widespread damage to even dispersed fighters. A hit against capital ships would be less likely to damage surrounding vessels.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Also, since the Minelayer carries its own set of fighters for protection, I'd say go ahead and price it at 30,000,000 credits. If that sounds alright with you...

Actually, I factored in the ~5 million extra for fighters already, but again I really don't know what I'm doing. Shipyards won't get updated until tomorrow anyway, so I can sleep on it.

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(quote)Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Actually, I factored in the ~5 million extra for fighters already, but again I really don't know what I'm doing. Shipyards won't get updated until tomorrow anyway, so I can sleep on it.;)

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Actually, what I had in mind was mining a system before a battle or engagement (not during the thick of the action). They'll always be there until something hits them...

I know, but all possibilities should be considered. Since fleets can rearm at will while in-system, perhaps we should establish a limit, of say 100 mines per system?

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**I know, but all possibilities should be considered. Since fleets can rearm at will while in-system, perhaps we should establish a limit, of say 100 mines per system?

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Good idea. I think we should go with that.

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Maybe you could just make mines cost money? If you made every mine cost 50,000 credits it would put a nix on going totally our of proportion, while still leting them put plenty of mines around.

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Originally posted by Vice Admiral Ipvicus:
**Maybe you could just make mines cost money? If you made every mine cost 50,000 credits it would put a nix on going totally our of proportion, while still leting them put plenty of mines around.

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Hmmm, I don't know... 100 mines would cost 5,000,000 credits. Not only that, but things would get more complicated.

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I was thinking the speed of my frigate to be average for a capital (which means relatively slow if I understand correctly).

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**I was thinking the speed of my frigate to be average for a capital (which means relatively slow if I understand correctly).

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Average for an Alien capital would probably be around 150, so we can go with that. I'll go ahead and leave it at 20,000,000, and the Minelayer at 25,000,000, for lack of a better idea.

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Hmmmm, though I already posted this... oh well.

Ravager Class Small Warship
Shields: 3,000
Armor: 1,000
Speed: 250
Acceleration: •••
Turning: ••••
Fuel: 6 Jumps
Price: 30,00,000 credits (hopefully :))
8 TLRT Beams
8 Needle Beams
1 Drill Bomb Tube
4 Drill Bombs

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Link doesn't work.

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Originally posted by grunadulater:
**Link doesn't work.

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Click the link in his sig... The picture posted in the homepage is the same graphic. Nice model, cadet.

Mac: Sounds good to me.

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Hey Mac, could you put a price on my Ravager?

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Originally posted by grunadulater:
**Hey Mac, could you put a price on my Ravager?

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No, I think I'll go with your original one. Happy?

I updated the Dreden Ship/Weapon yards, more to follow...

(Images and nicks would be nice for the stuff I don't have filled in there, Dreden people.)

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:eek:It would be nice to make this a plug-in!!!! :eek:
;)hint hint
:D(post on addons page if so)

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