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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Yes, and I really admire the job you did of it. Even ran that one over my head.:)
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Heh. I guess all those years of playing the WWII "Axis and Allies" board game with my older brother payed off... Learned plenty of tactics during those days.
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Quite true. Had you immediately attacked the 42nd upon your arrival, you could have likely overwhelmed him in a small period of time. But since he had time to react, Jimbob was able to perform fleet tactics and bring the attack to the aliens. Also, that gave Azdara and I extra time to prepare for the counterattack and ambush.
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Uh, Skyblade... he did pretty much overwhelm Jimbob right off the bat. You should see my broken down figures. Virtually all the damage to Jimbob was before you arrived, and a good 75% of the damage to the Aliens came after you arrived...
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Uh, Skyblade... he did pretty much overwhelm Jimbob right off the bat. You should see my broken down figures. Virtually all the damage to Jimbob was before you arrived, and a good 75% of the damage to the Aliens came after you arrived...
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Yes, that's true. I never said Jimbob inflicted the bulk of the damage against the aliens, he simply lasted longer than he should have. He probably wouldn't have caused the damage he did unless he had that vital time. Even then, it didn't gain him to much...
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Don't you just love double posts...
(This message has been edited by Captain Skyblade (edited 12-28-2001).)
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Heh. I guess all those years of playing the WWII "Axis and Allies" board game with my older brother payed off... Learned plenty of tactics during those days.
Maybe. The idea that you would do that didn't even occur to me... you had Azdara Ace to back him up, and you were off on your own little jaunt, capturing systems rapidly. I figured you'd just continue.
Though as you may have noticed watching me duke it out with the Pirates, I've learned a fair amount of tactics myself. Even the most optimistic (non-spl tainted, that is) estimates of that battle for the pirates put me significantly ahead.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Maybe. The idea that you would do that didn't even occur to me... you had Azdara Ace to back him up, and you were off on your own little jaunt, capturing systems rapidly. I figured you'd just continue.
Though as you may have noticed watching me duke it out with the Pirates, I've learned a fair amount of tactics myself. Even the most optimistic (non-spl tainted, that is) estimates of that battle for the pirates put me significantly ahead.
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I did consider leaving Azdara and Jimbob to fight the battle (mostly because of the Imperial 59th, which has just taken Sten), but I decided not to when I noticed two enemy fleets devoted to the Verdica attack. The destruction of those two fleets would mean big trouble for hopes of alien victory.
Darn, I wish RC would make a post regarding Verdica. I don't know if he's going to stay and fight or retreat. It's holding us up, but oh well. 
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I'm emailing Mac. You know that means trouble. Better settle down for a long wait.
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**I'm emailing Mac. You know that means trouble.;) Better settle down for a long wait.
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Go ahead. I'm curious to see if it gets you anywhere. Just don't make it too long of a wait...
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Go ahead. I'm curious to see if it gets you anywhere.;) Just don't make it too long of a wait...
Doesn't look like he's trying to change anything... yet. RC, I may not have time to reply tonight, I'm afraid, but I'll let you know as soon as I can.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: **
So spl, go learn to cheat with tactics, like I do. Maybe some day you can beat me on the real battleground of war: tactics.**
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Heh. I guess all those years of playing the WWII "Axis and Allies" board game with my older brother payed off... Learned plenty of tactics during those days.
I WANT THAT GAME SOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY!
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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**I WANT THAT GAME SOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY!
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It's easy to get, at least in the United States via the internet (you can only find A&A; Europe and Pacific in retail stores). Axis and Allies: Europe and Axis and Allies: Pacific are only better. 
I've been hooked on that game ever since I was seven years old...
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I've always loved Risk, but it excludes so much strategy that I hear Axis and Allies has. Have you ever played any Games-Workshop games? They seem like your type. If you want more info, go to Games-Workshop.com. They now even have LOTR sets..... 
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Thanks for the losses mod assist on spl's ships Captain Skyblade. I really doubt I would not have been able to inflict any losses at all, especially when I was attacking with a total of over 250 Stingrays, when engaged by 30 or so Debroahs, whose weaponry has the same speed and range as mine. Also, only half of each type of fighter group was with my forward wing, so I doubt more then that entire half could be lost, ala the Devil Rays, even if you had managed to drop every single one in range, that would only be 15.
And what the heck are screening fighters for if they don't do any screening! I noticed you didn't kill any of my Skates, however I doubt they would have felt kind enough to return the favor. Oh... and if you change the stats on your gunboats, shouldnt that also change the price? Which would further limit the amount of them you would have been able to field in the first place?
Now, I suppose I can be happy with Captain Skyblades reassessment, if I get to keep three more of my Devil Rays.
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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
**Thanks for the losses mod assist on spl's ships Captain Skyblade. I really doubt I would not have been able to inflict any losses at all, especially when I was attacking with a total of over 250 Stingrays, when engaged by 30 or so Debroahs, whose weaponry has the same speed and range as mine. Also, only half of each type of fighter group was with my forward wing, so I doubt more then that entire half could be lost, ala the Devil Rays, even if you had managed to drop every single one in range, that would only be 15.
And what the heck are screening fighters for if they don't do any screening! I noticed you didn't kill any of my Skates, however I doubt they would have felt kind enough to return the favor. Oh... and if you change the stats on your gunboats, shouldnt that also change the price? Which would further limit the amount of them you would have been able to field in the first place?
Now, I suppose I can be happy with Captain Skyblades reassessment, if I get to keep three more of my Devil Rays.
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1. First off, spell Deborah correctly. To do otherwise mocks my girlfriend.
2. The price shouldn't change because all I did was bring them up to par with HC equivalents.
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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
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1. First off, spell Deborah correctly. To do otherwise mocks my girlfriend.
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Cool way to think up a name for a ship. Have you told your girlfriend yet?
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**1. First off, spell Deborah correctly. To do otherwise mocks my girlfriend.
2. The price shouldn't change because all I did was bring them up to par with HC equivalents.
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Ok. Good to hear you have no remarks against the loss modifications. That was just plain... insanity.
ZenMasta: You're more than welcome. I'll go ahead and give you back three more of those Devil Rays, but that's it. We don't want to drag this all into yet another long battle arguement...
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(This message has been edited by Captain Skyblade (edited 12-28-2001).)
Captain Skyblade, I feel kind of bad for Saint+ and his fleet, with him gone and all, so I was thinking, when I destroy his Carrier, I'll say he ejected in an escape pod and escaped in his destroyer. Does that sound okay? Or should I board and storm the Carrier, taking him hostage? The reason I said that the destroyer ran was so that he'd have an escape ship. What do you think?
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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**Captain Skyblade, I feel kind of bad for Saint+ and his fleet, with him gone and all, so I was thinking, when I destroy his Carrier, I'll say he ejected in an escape pod and escaped in his destroyer. Does that sound okay? Or should I board and storm the Carrier, taking him hostage? The reason I said that the destroyer ran was so that he'd have an escape ship. What do you think?
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That's your decision. I would, however, restrain from posting additional info regarding the Battle of Verdica until RC or Saint+ has a chance to respond. Whatever you do, just let him live.
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Mod post - Your battle sequence actually sounded quite realistic, but that is just plain absurd in terms of losses. These HC fighters weren't drinking coffee during your assault, were they? I'm sure ZenMasta will only accept those stats if you dock up a few on your own side... These are fresh HC space vessels, so they can inflict just as much as the pirates can. Each side has its fair share of guided weapons and firepower, and I'm sure they intend on using it at the same time.
Some more realistic losses would be:
Pirates:
9 Ghosts
15 Deborahs
HC:
54 Stingrays lost
18 Devil Rays lost
12 Swordfish lost
Now, that is still being rather one-sided... You can't expect the HC ships to be doing nothing while your bombarding them. They are delievering the same stuff back, and in some cases, HC firepower is better that that of the pirates. Take the corrected stats, or I'll have to void that last post of yours...
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Well, I think that there would be less Pirate losses than that considering the fact that most people are going to panic when they see half a dozen missiles after them. I would think that while attempting evasive manuevers they would end up being more concerned with manuevering than firing back. Then during that period the Pirates could move back. And of course KK can always void my post if he feels that it is better to do so.
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Ok. Good to hear you have no remarks against the loss modifications.**
