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      Greetings!

      I write this due to two causes:

      • 51% to answer questions about the Aliens.

      • 49% to stop (or at least reduce the quantity of) thread after thread after thread, all asking the same (or similar) question(s) about the Aliens.

      Okay, here we go:

      The Alien missions are the last missions - just face it. Once you have completed that mission, you get a great reward (I won't tell what - and I hope that no one else will, as it will take away a lot of curiosity and excitement from the game).

      You get the Alien missions, only if siding with either the Rebellion or the Confederation. Once you get the mission, just follow the instructions - they are very clear. But for the last part of the mission - where you actually are supposed to blow up the Aliens.

      In order to defeat the Aliens, go to the Gamera system, and here is a guide on how to get there from Sol (which where Earth, Luna, Mars and Stardock Alpha are):
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      () Travel to Tau Ceti (south-west of Sol)
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      ) Travel to Antares (south-west of Tau Ceti)
      () Travel to Diphidia (north-west of Antares)
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      ) Travel to Farazon (which is an empty system (NOTE! marked with grey on the map), which is lying directly west to Diphidia)
      (*) Travel to Gamera (which is another empty system (see above note), lying south-west of Farazon).
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      This is just one of the many ways to get to Gamera, from Sol, but this one only requires five jumps.

      If you, however, are playing on the Rebellion's side, you will get the Alien Mission whilst being on Palshife, I have therefor written a guide how to come from Palshife to Gamera:
      (list=1)
      () Travel to Clotho (south south-west of Satori (in which Palshife is))
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      ) Travel to Curzon (south-east of Clotho)
      () Travel to Propus (south-east of Curzon)
      (
      ) Travel to Darven (south-west of Propus)
      () Travel to Perseus (south-west of Darven), I strongly suggest that you refuel here.
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      ) Travel to Farazon (south-east of Perseus)
      (*) Travel to Gamera (south-west of Farazon)
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      Alright! Now I've taken you to the Aliens. Now let us focus on how to beat them.

      Ship
      Theoretically, it is enough with a Shuttlecraft, for all you need is a weapon. But I suggest at least a Corvette (preferably a Kestrel), for newbies. But it is not impossible to do it in a Rapier either. But some people claim they have done it in a Scoutship(!!!).

      Weapon
      Do not use Missiles or Torpedoes on the Aliens. Instead, load your ship with Laser and Proton Turrets and or Canons, as these damages shields much more than any other weapon. If you have sided with the Rebellion, you might have the Tractor Beam. You use it by selecting is at your Secondary Weapon (above the Target-box), and then fire it.

      Strategy
      If you are using the Tractor Beam (and I recommend that you do that), make sure that you get the Alien Cruiser within the beam's range, and preferably, with the Alien Cruiser's nose, pointing away from you. This will make the Alien Cruiser unable to attack you with its beams - but watch out for the Seeker Drones and the annoying Alien Fighters.
      Like I said in the Weapon-thing, do not use Missiles or Torpedoes. But use Heavy Rockets and Javelin Rockets, if you like. But I still prefer using the Tractor Beam and a bunch of Turrets.
      If you do not have the Tractor Beam (which you won't if you haven't done the Tractor Beam-mission, or have sided with the Confederation), buy the Thrust Enhancement, the Engine Upgrade and the RCS upgrade. By using these, you can fly at (almost) the same speed as the Alien Cruiser - it depends on what ship you used before. Fly after and behind it (or on its sides) and fire with whatever weapon you have (except for Missiles and Torpedoes!). After quite some time, the Alien Cruiser will be killed.

      You do not need to kill the Alien Fighters - but you can always do that for fun! If you do not kill the Alien Fighters, they can/will appear now and then (I have only seen one once, when I did not kill them in the Alien Missions).

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      I hope that this answers most the questions concerning the Aliens!

      //KaBoomer

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    • Plenty of alien topics indeed. Good thinking on your part of answering (or at least giving tips) on questions in a nutshell.

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    • Very good. I did, however notice one error:

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      In order to defeat the Aliens, go to the Gamera system, and here is a guide on how to get there from Sol (which where Earth, Luna, Mars and Stardock Alpha are):

      The alien cruiser is only in the Gamera system if you are playing for the Rebellion. If you are playing for the Confederation, it is in the Tryvin system.

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      (This message has been edited by David Arthur (edited 12-26-2001).)

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      Originally posted by David Arthur:
      **Very good. I did, however notice one error:

      The alien cruiser is only in the Gamera system if you are playing for the Rebellion. If you are playing for the Confederation, it is in the Tryvin system.

      **

      Thank you! 🙂

      Ah, they are? Hmm, I won't argue with you - because you are most probably right! It was ages since I smoked the Aliens whilst being on the Confederate side! 🙂

      //KaBoomer

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    • Good idea- sort of like my "A NOVA Newbie's Guide." I hope it works.

    • Luke, where are you in Florida? Orlando? Tampa? Winter Park?

      Also, remember: The alien fighters are the best ship in the game. It is not nescisary to obliviate them, just the cruiser. And make sure you don't loose your escorts like I did once, it makes it bloody hard.
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      Originally posted by Luke in Florida:
      **Good idea- sort of like my "A NOVA Newbie's Guide." I hope it works.

      **

      Yeah, that's wherefrom I got the inspiration. Plus that I am getting really tired of all "I am to lazy to play the game, how do I kill the aliens?"-posts, so I decided to try to answer all questions, and give hints, in just one thread! 🙂

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      Originally posted by Jimbob:
      Also, remember: You don't need to take out the two alien fighters, just the cruiser.

      I belive I covered that part too! 🙂

      //KaBoomer

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    • Very very nice. Quite informative, and easy to read. Good work. 🙂

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    • Now it's my turn to put up my own speculations about the aliens, their origins, and their technologies. 🙂

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      **The Alien Race
      Written by Captain Carnotaur

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      The Species**

      The Aliens are, as far as I can tell, a race of highly xenophobic aliens that destroy all who oppose them. They do not communicate with others, and are highly technilogically advanced.

      Though this is mere speculation, I believe that the aliens look like a normal human, except with no hair, a reptillian-like head, and a hunched-over posture. Their skin probably looks like the skin of their ships, which looks organic.

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      Where did They come from?

      No one really knows where the aliens came from or originated from, though some believe that they came from George's World, just a jump away from Satori; the headquarters of the Rebellion.

      Others think that they came from another galaxy, and arrived in the Milky Way via a jumpgate or warpgate of some kind. However, it is my professional opinion that they are a nomadic alien race that has been wandering the galaxy, destroying all in their path using their superior technology.

      This is supported by a sentence in the EV Into text which says:

      "Within eight years, the enigmatic alien marauders were extinct."

      So, it is my belief that these aliens were simply marauders, killing anything and everything. I do not, however, believe that they were totally wiped out. Many probably still exist in the void of space.

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      The History

      The Alien race probably started out on an M-Class Planet, not unlike our own, except for the fact that it probably had little natural resources.

      And so, because of that, the Aliens were able to expand just like we did, but around the time the aliens began to explore space, they ran out of natural resources like iron. To combat this shortage, the aliens began work on DNA research to allow them to construct organically built ships. This would be aided by using the DNA from their own skin to be the base for their hulls.

      The aliens then slowly advanced, but they were probably 300 years ahead of us in space travel, which allowed them to roam the galaxy and greatly increase their technilogical skill.

      During this time, they probably came across many alien races that they conquered, and incorporated their DNA structure into the structure of their ships to improve their strength.

      Finally, after marauding the galaxy for centuries, they came across the human race, and made the mistake of underestimating humans. It would be their downfall.

      After the initial success of the aliens after destroying many of the outer colony worlds within hours, the aliens then attacked the coreworlds, but they found stiff resistence.

      The massive alien cruisers were slowly taken down one by one by frigates and manta fighters, with the Confederacy using tactics and ingenuity to outsmart their alien opponents.

      Within eight years of the start of the Great War, the Alien race was thought to be extinct. In truth, there are probably aliens still roaming the galaxy, including the alien cruiser hiding in the Serpens Nebula, which was later destroyed.

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      The Weaponry

      The Aliens use only three different types of weapons, but all of these are deadly.

      • Alien Fusion Beam

      The primary weapon for the Alien Fighter, the Fusion Beam is relatively weak, but it's more useful than a proton turret, and does enough damage to be extremely annoying.

      The Fusion Beam works by first fusing together particles of energy, biomater, or uridium. The resulting energy release is then focused via a biogenetically "Grown" emitter, which fires the energy at a target, causing heavy damage.

      • Alien Heavy Fusion Beam

      A big improvement over the standard Alien Fusion Beam, the Heavy Fusion beam is an enlarged and enhanced version of the older weapon, which is more effeciant in directing all the energy released.

      Extremely deadly, if you get hit by one of these things, you're probably going to die if you don't escape it FAST. This thing is the most deadly weapon in EV, in my opinion, even more so than torpedoes, space bombs, and the particle beam. It is the primary weapon of the Alien Cruiser, which makes that ship very dangerous, but since it is not turreted, it can't always hit the target it is pursuing. A very good anti-warship gun.

      • Alien Seeker Drones

      Fast, powerful, and nearly impossible to jam, the Alien Seeker Drone is a deadly addition to the aliens already possible arsenal. By firing in large barrages of 3 or more, the Alien Seeker drones only real disadvantage is their relatively slow speed.

      Probably working on the same premise as the other weapons, by releasing fusion energy when the warhead detonates, the Seeker Drone launcher is probably very large, which is why the alien fighter only carries 1 launcher and 1 seeker drone.

      One interesting note about the Alien weapons is this; all of them (except for the standard fusion beam) are very good against warships, which is why I am lead to believe that the fusion beam and the seeker drone were probably developed to be used against a race that used only large warships. The fusion beam was probably made to combat a weaker race that used fighters.

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      The Ships

      • Alien Fighter
      Weapons: 1 Fusion Beam, 1 Seeker Drone Launcher w/ 1 Seeker Drone
      The only fighter in the Alien navy, and probably designed to combat other fighters, the Alien Fighter is quite deadly and numbers, and even more annoying. Practically impossible to destroy, these fighters are very well known for pestering ships for ages.

      • Alien Cruiser
      Weapons: 1 Heavy Fusion Beam, 3 Seeker Drone Launchers w/ 90 Seeker Drones, 1 Alien Fighter Bay w/ 3 Alien Fighters
      The most deadly warship known to mankind, it was these massive alien cruisers that laid waste to nearly a dozen outer colony worlds within the first few days of the start of the Great War. Shielded more than 5 Confed Cruisers put together, and armed with the devastating Heavy Fusion Beam, the Alien Cruiser is also equipped with a stunning amount of weaponry, including 3 Alien Fighters. With organic hull plating like the Alien fighter, biogenetically "Grown" and strengthened over time, the Alien Cruiser is a ship to fear.

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      Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur:
      **Now it's my turn to put up my own speculations about the aliens, their origins, and their technologies.:)

      **

      ...and I have taken myself the freedom of commenting them! 🙂

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      **The Aliens are, as far as I can tell, a race of highly xenophobic aliens that destroy all who oppose them. They do not communicate with others, and are highly technilogically advanced.

      Though this is mere speculation, I believe that the aliens look like a normal human, except with no hair, a reptillian-like head, and a hunched-over posture. Their skin probably looks like the skin of their ships, which looks organic.**

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      Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur:
      **Though this is mere speculation, I believe that the aliens look like a normal human, except with no hair, a reptillian-like head, and a hunched-over posture. Their skin probably looks like the skin of their ships, which looks organic. ******

      Well, on Battle For Sol, we agreed that they look like a cross between a turtle and an octopus, I think. 🙂

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      Xenophobic? Hmm, are you sure? Maybe they just discovered that someone was intruding what had been the Alien's for thousands of years. We would probably react the same if Aliens started colonizing Earth, would we not? 😃

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're xenophobic. 🙂

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      I belive that they come from beyond the NGCs. I belive this, because that we have explored every other system, hence I belive that the Aliens come from beyond the NGCs, and that their super technology can make them do such travels.

      Same here. They probably came from someplace far off in the galaxy.

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      Interesting story, Captain. But, hehe, no one says that the Alien Cruisers are the biggest Alien ships, eh? Perhaps, they have larger ships somewhere... Waiting for orders from the Alien High Council (or whatever), to blow up Earth itself.

      That's what I was thinking; maybe like an Alien Mothership or Starfortress.

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      **A question: do you belive that the Confederation and Rebellion (and Pirates perhaps) would ally themselves, if the Aliens formed a large attack - in both Rebell and Confederate systems?
      **

      Probably, yeah, but after the aliens left, the alliance would go POOF. 🙂

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    • hey, I just got a cool idea for a plug-in in which the aliens have destroyed half the galaxy and your goal is to fight them throughout the game. And the systems can all be there, but they'll be uninhabited with asteroid fields because the aliens blew them up. Ok, I'm done ranting now 🙂

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      Originally posted by Jimbob:
      (B)Luke, where are you in Florida? (B)

      North of Cuba, south of Georgia, east of the Gulf of Mexico, and west of the Atlantic. 😛

      I'm closest to Tampa, from the choices you gave me. Unusually cold down here, ain't it?

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      Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur:
      Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're xenophobic.:)

      I cannot agree totally with you, on this point. How do you humanity would have reacted if Aliens began colonizing things that for ages has ben our's; continents for instance. Wouldn't we protect our domains and try to push the aliens away?
      I just belive that the Aliens are patriotic. 😉

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      That's what I was thinking; maybe like an Alien Mothership or Starfortress.

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      Originally posted by Luke, Still in Florida:
      **North of Cuba, south of Georgia, east of the Gulf of Mexico, and west of the Atlantic.:p

      I'm closest to Tampa, from the choices you gave me. Unusually cold down here, ain't it?**

      Yeah, your tellin me. Me and my dad were going to go golfing today, until we walked outside this morining.

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!
      (B) I cannot agree totally with you, on this point. How do you humanity would have reacted if Aliens began colonizing things that for ages has ben our's; continents for instance. Wouldn't we protect our domains and try to push the aliens away?
      I just belive that the Aliens are patriotic. (B/)

      Yeah, but the whole alien race wouldn't be patriotic. Just certain ethnic groups. Example-United States has patriotic persons. Afghanistan and occasionally France hate us. 😛 😉

      Oh, congrats on the Karma, KaBoomer. Not too often a Newb gets it. 😉
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      Originally posted by Jimbob:
      **Yeah, but the whole alien race wouldn't be patriotic. Just certain ethnic groups. Example-United States has patriotic persons. Afghanistan and occasionally France hate us.:p 😉 **

      Let us not turn this into a terrorism-discussion, shall we?
      But you might be right there... But, hmm, do you really belive that the Aliens think like we do? Perhaps they can think in ways we cannot - ways we cannot even fantizise about?

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      Oh, congrats on the Karma, KaBoomer. Not too often a Newb gets it.;)

      Thank you! 🙂

      //KaBoomer

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      **Do you think they think like we do? Perhaps they think in ways we don't, - Maybe in ways we could never imagine.

      //KaBoomer

      **

      I would think in some aspects yes. In others, they may think differently. They might think more logically about agriculture and have amazingly productuve farms or something. They seem to be very advanced in sheilds and short range battle, but they suck with Armor and long range. I assume they tried to eliminate long range battle by making the righter so fast.

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      Originally posted by Jimbob:
      **I would think in some aspects yes. In others, they may think differently. They might think more logically about agriculture and have amazingly productuve farms or something. They seem to be very advanced in sheilds and short range battle, but they suck with Armor and long range. I assume they tried to eliminate long range battle by making the righter so fast.

      **

      A human only uses about 10% - 15% of his/her brain* - perhaps the Aliens uses more of theirs. Which would make them think (much) more logical then we.
      And their ships looks organic, don't they? That could be the reasong why they have so high shields; how much protection does organ provide you with?

      By the way...
      If mankind was the Alien's first threat, wasn't the Aliens extremely prepared? Their weapon-power could wipe out mankind.
      Perhaps the Aliens had previos experiences in war, due to either civil war(s) or previous battles with other Alien-races.

      I have done a few AI-vs-AI tests** and here are the results:

      • 1 Alien Cruiser (with its fighters) vs. 1 Confederate Cruiser. Result: it didn't take long until the 'Fed Cruiser was dust.

      • 1 Alien Cruiser (without its fighters) vs. 1 Confederate Cruiser. Result: a little less super-easy victory for the Alien Cruiser. 😉

      • 1 Alien Cruiser (with its fighters) vs. 1 Rebell Cruiser. Result: this shows how weak the Rebell cruiser is, it died very soon.

      • 1 Alien Cruiser (without its fighters) vs. 1 Rebell Cruiser Result: Gamera Fried Reb' Cruiser.

      What can conclusions can we make out of this?
      The Aliens's ships are much better than mankind's ships, and they could theoretically wipe out mankind.

      //KaBoomer

      Footnotes

      • I base that one what I read in a newspaper a few months ago.
        ** I cannot guarantee you that my AI-vs-AI tests are 100% accurate, but those are the results of my tests! 🙂

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      A question: do you belive that the Confederation and Rebellion (and Pirates perhaps) would ally themselves, if the Aliens formed a large attack - in both Rebell and Confederate systems?

      There might be some sort of truce between the two major governments, but the pirates could never form an alliance, for the simple reason that they are not a government. Piracy might decline as space captains felt it their duty to protect the human race rather than attacking it, but a formal alliance with what is mostly disorganised crime would be impossible almost by definition.

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      Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
      **I cannot agree totally with you, on this point. How do you humanity would have reacted if Aliens began colonizing things that for ages has ben our's; continents for instance. Wouldn't we protect our domains and try to push the aliens away?
      **

      I don't know. I'm not sure what it is, but for some reason I always get the feeling that the aliens are supposed to have been fairly nomadic. Also, for that matter, I've never seen any reason to believe that there are any aliens left alive after you destroy the cruiser. Remember, it's supposed to have been incorrectly presumed destroyed during the Great War. It's not a scout for a coming invasion or anything like that.

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      Originally posted by Jimbob:
      Oh, congrats on the Karma, KaBoomer. Not too often a Newb gets it.

      Yes, great job KaBoomer!!!. It's not often that somebody with such a low post count gets karma. I didn't get any until I had 100 posts. 🙂

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