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Originally posted by ares1:
**Heheh. B &B; come over, and already the topic is teetering on the edge of iLock oblivion.

Actually, I think that having a system to recognize exceptional members is a good idea on all boards. But if you feel so offended at your idea being taken, talk to Jimbob in private, or talk to a mod about it. Flaming and spamming is not neccesary. Keep that stuff on your board, please.

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While topics other then endlessly repeating polls are foreign to you, they are not "spam". There is actually a lot more spam here then there is on the EV Banter and Brawl.

I actually did talk to a moderator about it, Soviet mikee, who has stated what he thinks of all this. It would be wise to follow your forum leader.

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Originally posted by Soviet mikee:
**And no one is spamming or flaming here. Try to add some sense into your posts please.
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Allow me to cite:

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Originally posted by Pikeman:
**Yes, that or foolish EV board newbs who don't know any better.
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Originally posted by Octoberfost:
**Imitation is the lamest form of flattery.
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Originally posted by Pikeman:
**has been bastardized by an insubordinant group of newcomers.
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I don't feel like making a thousand more quotes, but I think you get my point. If I lost karma for rolling my eyes at you, I would think you would not wink at them for their... childishness. But I guess it is a moot point.

Ok, I rest my case. Last time I pointed out your incorrectness I lost karma, and B&Bers; are not the people I want to spend my Friday night talking to.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**I don't feel like making a thousand more quotes, but I think you get my point.
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I was being sarcastic. Guess you didn't pick up on that. Of course, you don't know me very well, so it can be excused.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**I don't feel like making a thousand more quotes, but I think you get my point. If I lost karma for rolling my eyes at you, I would think you would not wink at them for their... childishness. But I guess it is a moot point.

Ok, I rest my case. Last time I pointed out your incorrectness I lost karma, and B&Bers; are not the people I want to spend my Friday night talking to.

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You didn't lose karma for rolling your eyes, you lost it for being an ass on several occasions. Those aren't flames. They are calling his copying lame, which it is.

You've never pointed out my incorrectness and I've certainly never warned you for it. Why don't you make some sense for once?

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--mikeeJ

So, what you're saying is that its okay for people to steal and degrade the ideas of others, and its not okay for the creators and followers of the original idea to candidly say what they think of such an act?

When did the EV Webboard join the Axis Alliance?

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Originally posted by The Space Between:
**where can I find OFost's MOTM thing?

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(url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum10/HTML/004705.html")OctoberFost's MOTM for November, 2001(/url)

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An example of a flame:

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MAC's SUCK, your all GAY!

This is an example of an opinion:

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That idea is lame, not only that, you ripped it off

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--mikeeJ

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Originally posted by OctoberFost:
So, what you're saying is that its okay for people to steal and degrade the ideas of others, and its not okay for the creators and followers of the original idea to candidly say what they think of such an act?

Couldn't you just wash your hands of this version if it really bugs you or something? I'm not passing judgement as to whether this is lame or not, but seriously, Do you hold a copyright on the idea? If not, I don't think you have a whole lot of right to tell Jimbob he can't do this. andrew can since it's his webboard, and probably the moderators too. Mikee hasn't explicitly prohibited it, even if he doesn't like it, so I don't entirely see how you can tell Jimbob not to do this.

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Actually, Mikee, you never warned me before you dropped my karma. In a post where I rolled my eyes at you, you editted my message in such a way as to suggest that I was losing karma for eye-rolling. In the email I got, you did not fill in a reason. If you can show me some of the posts where I was being an "ass," I would be very glad. And I pointed out that you were wrong when I cited several instances of the B&Ber;'s flaming/spam.

Pikeman, it is hard to pick up sarcasm on a text-based forum...

Ofost, coming in here and calling our board "lame newcomers who bastardized your idea" and then going on to call our board nothing but "repetative polls" is scarce what I would call candid. And I don't think that comparing us to the nazis is a step in the right direction, either.

As for soviet's most recent post: That is not a great example of a flame, but calling us bastardizing, lame, insubordinate newcomers is.

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Mikee hasn't explicitly prohibited it, even if he doesn't like it, so I don't entirely see how you can tell him not to do this.

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The MOTM is a banter and brawl webboard tradition. It is an unwritten rule that webboards do not steal ideas from each other without the consent of the person who invented the idea, which OctoberFost DID for the whole of the Ambrosia Software webboards. It is just not done. Mikee is also a mod for banter and brawl, so he realizes this.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**And I pointed out that you were wrong when I cited several instances of the B &Ber;'s flaming/spam.

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Look, you just said:
"Last time I pointed out your incorrectness I lost karma"

Did I drop your karma for that? You aren't making sense anymore.
I don't think I'll even bother with you, you're just a troll.

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--mikeeJ

(This message has been edited by Soviet mikee (edited 11-30-2001).)

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Ofost, coming in here and calling our board "lame newcomers who bastardized your idea" and then going on to call our board nothing but "repetative polls" is scarce what I would call candid. And I don't think that comparing us to the nazis is a step in the right direction, either.

As for soviet's most recent post: That is not a great example of a flame, but calling us bastardizing, lame, insubordinate newcomers is.

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The flaming of newbies is a seperate issue. It is irrelevant to this discussion. I suggest you drop it before this topic fufills it's Sierra's Law destiny and a flame war starts. For the sake of clarity, please keep focused on this very important discussion.

And yes, sarcasm is hard to detect in a text-based medium such as this. Mistakes happen.

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Who cares? It's an idea, and like Macavenger said, you cannot own an idea. How about you go back to your board and we stay here at ours? None of our members set out to offend you guys. You came over here and started trying to start a fight. MOTM is a good idea, and whether it was ripped off or not, you have no right to be over here harrassing us. Keep your snotty personalities, fire baptizms, and flames on your own board, where we don't have to look at it. No one asked you here, and no one asked you stay.

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That's a typical troll response.

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--mikeeJ

Actually, by the same token we can't deny their right to come to this board. We don't have to appreciate it, and we don't have to read their posts, though.

I actually think the fire-baptisms are kinda funny myself.

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Originally posted by Soviet Mikee:
That's a typical troll response.

What's that supposed to mean? He's got pretty good points, except for the part I cited already.

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Okay, listen up, enough with the arguing for the sake of arguing, ares1, I'll propose something now.

I will let you guys have your own MOTM thing (you can even call it that), under a few certain conditions.

1. Whoever shall award this should email me and ask for permission (as well as prove that he is actually a very respected member of the EV Webboard, we can't have "nobodies", sorry for being so blatent, awarding this, or they will lose reputation)
2. Credit that I came up with the idea on the EV Banter and Brawl
3. Really, while public voting might seem good, its not. It turns what should be an award for good behavior, even in the face of unpopularity from the masses into a popularity contest. Keeping the decision to one person keeps it honest.

Really, it can be a viable idea, but someone has decided to make it into a lame ripoff.

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
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What's that supposed to mean? He's got pretty good points, except for the part I cited already.

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That was a "****, I'm trapped, I better avoid the fact I just had my ass handed to me and start rambling about something else" response, the thing a troll would say when faced with the fact he was shown to be a troll.

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--mikeeJ

Hmmm, interesting topic. I'm honored to see I was nominated, but I leave the fate of this topic and the idea to the moderators.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**MOTM is a good idea, and whether it was ripped off or not, you have no right to be over here harrassing us. Keep your snotty personalities, fire baptizms, and flames on your own board, where we don't have to look at it. No one asked you here, and no one asked you stay.

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You better not be talking to me.

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--mikeeJ

Mikee, no I was not talking to you in that post. However, you are acting like the lamest of newbies. Hey, you didn't care when your friends said that, so how can you punish me? I suppose you will find a way.

Hey, can you explain the whole troll thing? I undestand that you are trying to insult me, but you are doing a bad job. When I started pointing out that you were wrong, and you could not justify your actions, you began using stupid insults. That was a "****, I'm trapped, I better avoid the fact I just had my ass handed to me and start rambling about something else" response.

I have decided not to return the insult, as I do not want to sink to your level. And when a regular member does not want to sink to the level of a moderator, you know there is a problem.

Oh! And you never cited all those instanced where I was an ass, and thereby warrenting the karma slap you gave me.

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