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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
**Actually, I think he was more irate about the fact that you insulted his intelligence, and your post did seem almost flame like, which is probably why he reacted as such, though he may have overreacted a bit himself.
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Agreed for the most part, and besides which, a lot of what you said is just wrong anyway, Dragon. The Dreden are an old group of human colonists that were captured by the aliens for use as slaves many years ago. They were forced to work in the main Alien shipyards on the planet Dreden. Some years ago, the humans on the planet became numerous enough that they were able to rebel against their enslavers and gain control of the world. This gave them access to the massive shipyards there, where they merged human and Alien technology to produce a range of capable ships. The Dreden know that humans still rule in the Milky Way and are fighting to return there. The HC, however, assumes the Dreden were all killed. This is why the HC is listed as an ally of the Dreden, but the Dreden are not an ally of the HC - the HC doesn't know they exist.

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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
Its always been my understanding that the Dreden were a powefully technologically advanced race, I'm not sure when they left HC space, but they had some of the basis of our technology with them, and when they were able to successfully rebell in alien territory, they took from their technology as well.

My understanding is that the Dreden left human space before the Civil War began, thinking they would be able to continue to live in peace.

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Originally posted by David Arthur:
**My understanding is that the Dreden left human space before the Civil War began, thinking they would be able to continue to live in peace.

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Correct. The Dreden are simply captured humans who have rebelled against Alien rule, and thus captured much of their foe's technology in the process.

Unfortunately however, peace wasn't exactly what the Dreden found. Only another war.

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Arg, it appears we may run through an entire BFS3 Discussion before the damn thing starts... ah well. David's posting brought another issue I had to mind, who are the mods this turn around? I seem to recall someone saying that the government leaders will all be mods, which would be Mac, Skyblade, Asriel, and Shade... but will we have any neutral mods?

I know it was offered to David, but he is waiting to see if he will have the time to do it, and I seem to recall that Rak, though not neutral, was once a mod on one of these. Any news?

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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
**Arg, it appears we may run through an entire BFS3 Discussion before the damn thing starts... ah well. David's posting brought another issue I had to mind, who are the mods this turn around? I seem to recall someone saying that the government leaders will all be mods, which would be Mac, Skyblade, Asriel, and Shade... but will we have any neutral mods?

I know it was offered to David, but he is waiting to see if he will have the time to do it, and I seem to recall that Rak, though not neutral, was once a mod on one of these. Any news?
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I'm still open to a neutral mod, I think it would be helpful. For now, the gov leaders are mods. This way, we have a balance of moderators between governments, and since we picked the gov leaders for their general webstory savvy, we get the best mods overall this way. I admit the system does leave out some who deserve it (Rak, for ex.), but I like the idea of having a balance.

Skyblade - do you have stats for the Battle Gunship and future Carrier yet? Please?

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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
**Arg, it appears we may run through an entire BFS3 Discussion before the damn thing starts... ah well. David's posting brought another issue I had to mind, who are the mods this turn around? I seem to recall someone saying that the government leaders will all be mods, which would be Mac, Skyblade, Asriel, and Shade... but will we have any neutral mods?

I know it was offered to David, but he is waiting to see if he will have the time to do it, and I seem to recall that Rak, though not neutral, was once a mod on one of these. Any news?**

I believe the plan was for the leaders of the governments to moderate, which should be adequate. If they can't agree, you could always bring in a neutral party to resolve disputes on a case by case basis.

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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
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I know it was offered to David, but he is waiting to see if he will have the time to do it, and I seem to recall that Rak, though not neutral, was once a mod on one of these. Any news?

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I believe he was going to serve with the Human Confederation, but I haven't heard back from him in a few months. I haven't even seen him post in quite awhile...

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I'm going to be starting at the Atropos system.
59th Pirate Defence Fleet:
1 Battlefortress 210,000,000 (P.F.F.S. Armaggettin)
1 Halberd: 20,000,000
5 Corvette: 10,000,000
100 Starscreamer: 150,000,000
210 Lancer: 210,000,000
Total: 600,000,000

Becides for that I nobody would mind if after the webstory started I would just watch for a little while before I started much because I need to learn how this is going to work..

Jager

What does the map meen by jumpgate?

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(This message has been edited by god101 (edited 11-19-2001).)

Never Mind. Got what it ment by jump gate.

Ok a better question...
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If a race managed to get through the jumpgate into the other Galaxy Would they be able to Expand there goverment into that Galaxy.
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Whatever...
Jager

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Originally posted by god101:
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If a race managed to get through the jumpgate into the other Galaxy Would they be able to Expand there goverment into that Galaxy?
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Yes.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Yes.

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Oooo...hehehe. Once were done with the Pirates we'll come after the aliens!

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Yes.

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Oooo...hehehe. Once were done with the Pirates we'll come after the aliens!
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You just worry about the Pirates first. If the Human Confederation can focus on the pirates early in the game and overwhelm them with income and military force, you can then focus on the aliens...

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Originally posted by Mr. Moose:
Oooo...hehehe. Once were done with the Pirates we'll come after the aliens!:D

Why should we wait to be done with the pirates?

Zen, do you have a ~reliable~ email address? I just sent out an email to all the HC people except GR, and your copy bounced again. I guess I'll have to try resending it or something, but it would be handy if you had one that worked the first time.

Of course, this also means other HC people should check your email.

BTW Skyblade, has your email been acting ok lately, and are you responding to it relatively quickly? I know there's been some problems there in the past, and I had a couple of things to talk to you about, so I was wondering if that route might work.

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
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BTW Skyblade, has your email been acting ok lately, and are you responding to it relatively quickly? I know there's been some problems there in the past, and I had a couple of things to talk to you about, so I was wondering if that route might work.

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Strange... Are you sending it to my evula account? I believe I have it working now, but I could have missed a few e-mails.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Strange... Are you sending it to my evula account? I believe I have it working now, but I could have missed a few e-mails.

No, I was asking before I tried sending, since I know you've been busy. I take it everything's running smoothly then?

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**No, I was asking before I tried sending, since I know you've been busy. I take it everything's running smoothly then?

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It should work, so go ahead and send it.

My G3 is out of the way again (which is why I haven't been doing anything with graphics. Been playing with Strata, though), but other than that, everything is alright.

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Mac, I'm curious to know how you got the ZenMastaT@mactechone.com e-mail originally, as the one I have listed in my info is ZenMasta@pacbell.net. Both of which should and do normally work, but the first may be down right now as we are undergoing a server transfer. Try the one in my info if the first still doesn't work, its functioning fine judging by the amount of spam I'm getting...

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Originally posted by ZenMastaT:
**Mac, I'm curious to know how you got the ZenMastaT@mactechone.com e-mail originally, as the one I have listed in my info is ZenMasta@pacbell.net. Both of which should and do normally work, but the first may be down right now as we are undergoing a server transfer. Try the one in my info if the first still doesn't work, its functioning fine judging by the amount of spam I'm getting...:)
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Your fault for sending me a message using it.

I'm finding that any time I send one to your mactechone address, it bounces the first time and goes if I send it again.

Anyway, if you want to ignore Rak's psrt for now, you can just get on the (censored). I'm there right now.

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Well, I got your e-mail, and finally got into the deal... however no Mac. Irritating! Took me a damn while too. Ah well, just posting to tell you to ignore the e-mail I sent you.

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Friends,it is with great sadness that I must resign from BFS III.
While I'd love to stay,events beyond my control,such as my mother's concern over the ISP bill,and my upcoming School Cert exams,mean I have very little time to browse the boards-these days,all I can do is check my mail and post on RoC 3.
I don't even have my keyboard enough to do all the vessels I want to model.
Also,after playing Reign of Chaos 3,I have realised how much better their model of webstory is than the BFS series.
No time-consuming graphics,no lengthy discussion topics,answerable only to yourself need I go on?

Yours in perpetuity,

Shade

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