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So we can decide our fleets now? Good. I have something to do on the hour long bus ride to a field trip at Splendid China. See everyone later, I gotta go.
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1 Republic Class Carrier
3 Intrepid Class Heavy Cruisers
10 Freedom Class Cruisers
100 HammerheadsThat should be about 600 million credits...if it's not, feel free to laugh at my math skills.
What kind of Rank do I get working for the Humans?
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Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
**1 Republic Class Carrier
3 Intrepid Class Heavy Cruisers
10 Freedom Class Cruisers
100 HammerheadsThat should be about 600 million credits...if it's not, feel free to laugh at my math skills.
**Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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Originally posted by rebel council:
**Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!:D Actually thats about 950M.**
Ok, skip the freedom Cruisers.
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It's been a page since I nitpicked about the Rules. (Mac, loves this part!) Since you've missed my remarks so much (?) here goes....
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Movement
Fleets can move up to three systems per post. After a post moving the fleet, the fleet cannot be moved by its commander again until a player from another governemtn has posted.
"Governemtn?" Don't you mean "gromulent" -er- "gabverlent" -uh- "nemtrvogn" ... Oh, forget it.
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...Fleets "skipping" through systems with an enemy fleet will be fired upon and damaged by that fleet unless circumstances dictate otherwise, i.e. the defending fleet is already engaged or out of ammo.
Huh? Let's say Pirate KK jumps from Kathoon to Capella. In jumping through Levo all KK's fleet has time to do to Mac's HC fleet (which occupies Levo at the time) is "Pththththt!" give Mac a quick "rasberry" (No shots are fired from KK's ships) and "Poof!" KK's fleet is gone from Levo. WHEN will KK learn what damage his ships supposedly received from Mac's fleet? AFTER arriving at Capella? After-the-fact battles will be enormous sources of disagreement
That's weird, Mac.
I suggest this instead...
(Quote)Fleets may only "skip" through systems with an enemy fleet if the skipping fleet does not fire on the resident fleet. Fire on the enemy fleet, and you are automatically staying in the system for at least the time it takes for each fleet commander to make a battle post.(quote)
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I fixed the Recruitment Post on B&B....;
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My fleet:
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85 Gunships
445 Heavy Fighters
600 InerceptorsI'll start in Curze
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Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
**1 Republic Class Carrier
3 Intrepid Class Heavy Cruisers
10 Freedom Class Cruisers
100 Hammerheads**
On second thought, kill the Hammerheads.
BTW, do the fighters come with the ships, or do I have to buy them separate?
/me tries to figure out what 1200 times a decent fighter =.
ElG7
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Saint+ - rebel council was going to start in Sentarus Prime. I can put two fleets there, but I'd suggest you talk to Shade about that first. It's not like the Aliens don't need a fleet there, but two might be concentrating the Empire's forces more than Shade would like.
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gaaaaahhhh!!!!! aight. well than. in that case ill move my fleet to stornik.
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**Hmm...this can't be good.
**HaHaHa -- I fooled you. At least someone reads through the posts carefully.
Sorry, but I will be slaughtering Aliens.
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Could someone give me a link to BFS II? I need to read up on how to decide the "winner" of a "battle." Originally, I was thinking about a cost formula, but that wouldn't work, as pretty much all the fleets cost 6 mil. If someone could explain it or give me a link, I'd be eternally grateful.
As for fleet posting- I won't make up a fleet untill going over the "rules" of battle. Then /me must make big playbook too... <cryptic grin>
Me and RC our the "lower" members of the truumvirate (Counsuls), right, Shade? What's Saint+? And whoever gets recruited will need a rank too, y'know.
One last thing-
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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**My fleet:
40 Destroyers (Dreden)
85 Gunships
445 Heavy Fighters
600 InerceptorsI'll start in Curze**
You should probably wait for the bigger Dreden ships to arrive before choosing your fleet. I'm sure that you will at least want some BattleGunships in there...
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Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
**BTW, do the fighters come with the ships, or do I have to buy them separate?
**Yes, you do have to buy the fighters separately!
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**Yes, you do have to buy the fighters separately!
**Not ones that come with the Intrepids and Freedoms for example. I'm pretty sure that was what ElG7 was talking about. For the Carrier, you have to buy the fighters separately. If a ship says that it comes with X number of a particular fighter though, you don't have to buy them.
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Originally posted by KK:
"Governemtn?" Don't you mean "gromulent" -er- "gabverlent" -uh- "nemtrvogn" ... Oh, forget it.Couldn't find enough actual problems in the rules to nitpick at I see, KK. :rolleyes:
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KK's actual suggestion:
Fleets may only "skip" through systems with an enemy fleet if the skipping fleet does not fire on the resident fleet. Fire on the enemy fleet, and you are automatically staying in the system for at least the time it takes for each fleet commander to make a battle post.No. Think about it this way. I'm flying a Scoutship, and I jump from Capella to Arrakis. On arrival at Arrakis, I immediately jump to Nemesis. However, there was a Pirate Corvette at Arrakis which fired several Missiles while my ship was preparing to jump, and killed it. This type of situation happens frequently in EV until you get a bigger ship that can survive better. Any time you come through a system, you will get exposed to fire from the fleet there. Figure on at least some kind of salvo which will probably kill some smaller ships.
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Could someone give me a link to BFS II? I need to read up on how to decide the "winner" of a "battle." Originally, I was thinking about a cost formula, but that wouldn't work, as pretty much all the fleets cost 6 mil. If someone could explain it or give me a link, I'd be eternally grateful.The loser of a battle is whoever decides first that they've been hosed and retreats. You post back and forth
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Originally posted by Cyber-Dragon:
We're almost ready to go, right? from what I can see, it seems that the only obstacle is KK and his fine-tunings of the rules.We also need fleets from everyone who hasn't posted them, two more weapons yards, the rest of the Dreden tech, and a couple of other things, mostly relating to me rallying my troops.
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Originally posted by Cyber-Dragon:
"It should be 'it's' not 'its,' I tell you, we refuse to start until you change it..."Please tell me that was a hypothetical error, not a real one. Ever since getting into AP Comp this semester I've been paying a lot of attention to that sort of error. At least tell me where in the rules it is if I did that.
OK, now to the issue of players. We're at 4-6-4-4, Pirate-HC-Alien-Dreden. One option would be to bounce an HC player, probably Moose if he didn't mind, over to the Aliens. Or, we can find two more players. I have a friend who's considering joining, so we'd need one more person from the local board population. Registration for all governments but Aliens declared closed retroactive to just after ElG7 joined.
Also, Zen - that's the one I tried to send it to, since I just hit reply. Maybe I'll just have to keep trying until it goes or something.
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If you have to, make the pirate weapon yard without the pics for right now. I'll try and get them up soon, but I have to work on stuff for EVO: Galactica first as I've neglected them for far too long.
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That sounds cool enough, but it has some grey areas... Message to all BFS Mods- STBY!
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That sounds cool enough, but it has some grey areas... Message to all BFS Mods- STBY!STBY? What the heck does that mean?
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That sounds cool enough, but it has some grey areas... Message to all BFS Mods- STBY!It's supposed to have grey areas. What's STBY?
Zen, I tried sending your email again. Since it hasn't bounced after more than 10 minutes, that's probably a good sign.
I've also made another round of minor tweaks to the shipyards. Of particular interest to Dreden players will be the fact that I finally got around to reviewing the prices on their two latest ships in detail, which resulted in a price cut of 1 million on each of them.
I also made some cosmetic and negative stat tweaks in the Shipyard that no one will notice unless they look, because they're essentially irrelevant. Just satisfying my love of playing with numbers. Also, for KK primarily, I changed the theme color on the Pirate Shipyard. Sadly, the gold transformation on the title block didn't come out as well as the others. I can change it back if you pirates hate it. OTOH, you might like the little flecks of gold in it, I don't know.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
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No. Think about it this way. I'm flying a Scoutship, and I jump from Capella to Arrakis. On arrival at Arrakis, I immediately jump to Nemesis. However, there was a Pirate Corvette at Arrakis which fired several Missiles while my ship was preparing to jump, and killed it. This type of situation happens frequently in EV until you get a bigger ship that can survive better. Any time you come through a system, you will get exposed to fire from the fleet there. Figure on at least some kind of salvo which will probably kill some smaller ships.
No, back atcha, Mac.
The "Capella-Arrakis-Nemesis" situation you describe DOES happen regularly in EV (if you're a rookie) but this webstory is only "based" on EV. (How many governments are using standard EV ships, for example?)
A better way to avoid the "I got you! You're dead!" ... "No! You missed me!" primary school stuff is to remove the problem and agree that my Rules clause is better.
(Besides, when I fly a Scoutship in the game of EV -- a ship I regularly use, as I know you do too -- I agree the pirates "try" to shoot me. But even on the "take these documents to Sol" mission (I think that's the one.) the Merc's cannot get me in my Scoutship. ...And I am not nearly as good as you, Mac. )
(Okay, everybody! I know that last phrase could be construed to be really patronizing, so lay off...! I'm trying to schooze the guy, here.) .. ;), ;).. (Really Red Lipstick)<Smooch! Smooch!>(/Really Red Lipstick)
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