And how do I take a rendered model from mechanisto and make it into a mask, like for a planet?
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Originally posted by ares1:
**And how do I take a rendered model from mechanisto and make it into a mask, like for a planet?
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Make a copy of the pict, open the copy in Graphic Converter or a similar program, and put the threshhold(sp?) to full. This should make any color besides black completely white.
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Originally posted by ares1:
**And how do I take a rendered model from mechanisto and make it into a mask, like for a planet?
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I wouldn't know how to do this exactly with Mechanisto, but inside Infini-D, I apply the color white with maximum glow to every portion of my ship (or planet). I then disable shadows, and set the lighting directly above the ship. I spin it like I normally would with a sprite, and that's all there is to it.
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I don't know if Mechanisto lets you, but in Strata I just make a movie of the ship. Then I put it in m2s and let the sprites and mask get done that way.
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**I wouldn't know how to do this exactly with Mechanisto, but inside Infini-D, I apply the color white with maximum glow to every portion of my ship (or planet). I then disable shadows, and set the lighting directly above the ship. I spin it like I normally would with a sprite, and that's all there is to it.
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You can do that to, but if you are wanting all the mask for a bunch of ships, it would be much quicker to make a copy of your sprite, open the copy in photoshop, and put the threshhold on full. Try it, I think you'll save a bunch of time that would have been wasted rendering the ship all over again. 
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Don't you put the threshold down to minimum? That's how it's always worked for me in GC. Well, not minimum, that's 0 and makes everything white, but 1 makes everything but black white.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Don't you put the threshold down to minimum? That's how it's always worked for me in GC. Well, not minimum, that's 0 and makes everything white, but 1 makes everything but black white.
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Ooops.... :redface:Thanx for clearing me up on this subject. :redface: Yeah, you're absolutely right, you set threshhold to 1 and it works fine. :redface:
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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
**I don't know if Mechanisto lets you, but in Strata I just make a movie of the ship. Then I put it in m2s and let the sprites and mask get done that way.
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I save my sprites and masks as 36 frame movies as well, in QuickTime format. I then copy the frames into Photoshop one by one...
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**I save my sprites and masks as 36 frame movies as well, in QuickTime format. I then copy the frames into Photoshop one by one...
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two words: time consuming
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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**two words: time consuming
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Are you kidding? Using QuickTime movies is MUCH quicker than any other way I know of...
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Are you kidding? Using QuickTime movies is MUCH quicker than any other way I know of...
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Hmm....Maybe 'm not understanding what you're talking about. What exactly do you mean when you say using QuickTime movies?
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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**Hmm....Maybe 'm not understanding what you're talking about. What exactly do you mean when you say using QuickTime movies?
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When I render my 36 frame movie, Infini-D automatically export and saves the render as a QuickTime movie. I then open the QuickTime files, and pull all the frames into Photoshop. Simple as that...
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**When I render my 36 frame movie, Infini-D automatically export and saves the render as a QuickTime movie. I then open the QuickTime files, and pull all the frames into Photoshop. Simple as that...
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So you don't use make-spin, which automatically makes masks? Hmm...
I wish I had the luxury of photoshop....it sounds like you can do so much with it.... :frown: :frown: :frown:
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(quote)Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**So you don't use make-spin, which automatically makes masks? Hmm...
I wish I had the luxury of photoshop....it sounds like you can do so much with it.... 
Photoshop is truly a luxury. I'd recommend it to anyone who has any kind of interest in graphics. The money isn't easy to come by, though...
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Sooo how can I make "shaders" for mechanisto out of .pct and other standard graphic formats?
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Man-O-man.... Making 3d models that look like EV ships is really hard. I keep making stuff, and it keeps looking like a bunch of cylinders and sheres sitting next to eachother... Just looking at the wire frame and trying to make it look good is hard as hell. I think I will just keep getting other people to make graphics for me.
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I have had nothing to do today, so I kept playing with mechanisto. I figured out how to make wings for ships, and I made this:
It is sort of cool... at least now I can make simple things like this, and not have to rely on shipyards for planets, because it is very hard to find spobs on the net nowadays...
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(This message has been edited by ares1 (edited 10-15-2001).)
I am trying to make a simple ship in mechanisto... I make a hemisphere, and then put a small sphere on top of it to be the cockpit. I give them very different shaders... But when I render, the sphere is nowhere to be seen. I set the camera angle to right above the sphere so that it cannot be missed... still not there. I played with the light to no avail... I moved the sphere away from the hemisphere and rendered, and it was fine. The file is (url="http://"http://home.cfl.rr.com/aresev/shipscene.sit")here(/url). It is a mechanisto scene file. I would love it if someone could tell me what was wrong.
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Hemispheres can only be viewed at certain angles, noramlly you can't see then from the back. It you want that kind of shape. Insert a spere and dent it from the back to make a half-sphere. You will have to adjust different dent setting for it to make a clean dent that make half a sphere. Or, if you want, I can post a model of a half-sphere here. Hope this helps.
Yeah Skyblade, my problem is money. Oh, and also, would your Skyness mind if I included your website on my sig?
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Originally posted by ares1:
**I have had nothing to do today, so I kept playing with mechanisto. I figured out how to make wings for ships, and I made this:
It is sort of cool... at least now I can make simple things like this, and not have to rely on shipyards for planets, because it is very hard to find spobs on the net nowadays...
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That image of yours would make an excellent spob object. If you don't want to continue making ship attempts, at least you could texture spheres and use them as spobs. Keep trying, modelling will come around soon enough...
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Originally posted by Azdara:
**Yeah Skyblade, my problem is money. Oh, and also, would your Skyness mind if I included your website on my sig?
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Well, with a student discount, could could get Photoshop for around $200.
I'd be honored if you'd add my website to your sig. Thanks...
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