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Originally posted by Macavenger:
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Price: 80 Million
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I believe you should lower the price. After all, the HC carrier (about equal), is only 50M credits.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
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Price: 80 Million
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I believe you should lower the price. After all, the HC carrier (about equal), is only 50M credits.
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No, Skybalde is supposed to be working on prices, and the HC Carrier is due for a major prise increase. If I redo the price on that, I'm going to be rdoing the price on all my ships, and I don't think you'll like it.
Skyblade, are you about done updating the prices yet? I want that done before we buy ships again on page 6.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**No, Skybalde is supposed to be working on prices, and the HC Carrier is due for a major prise increase. If I redo the price on that, I'm going to be rdoing the price on all my ships, and I don't think you'll like it.
Skyblade, are you about done updating the prices yet? I want that done before we buy ships again on page 6.
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I'll try to get the images updated soon, but please remember I'm extremely busy. Took ten hours just to get my homeschooling done today.
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Sweet images, Mac! You must have used a Goodyear Blimp as a source image, eh?
Great work. I'll update the alien shipyard soon.
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Sweet images, Mac! You must have used a Goodyear Blimp as a source image, eh?;)
Great work. I'll update the alien shipyard soon.
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I'm pretty sure that isn't what Clueless used, since I have a derivative that may show up on page 5...
You used a P-38 Lightning as the source for your Heavy Junker, right?
I understand on the price updates, but please get them up by page 6.
I'll try to get the map up later tonight, I'm working on it as I type. I'm also trying to keep the pirates from being totally unreasonable for you. You might need to have a word with ErsadtSF, too, he tried to zap my fleet and Apollo by cheating earlier, and I had to slap him back. :frown:
ErsadtSF tried to cheat on an Imperial conquest?
There's only one thing for that.
Kill him!
Death to the enemies of the Alien Empire!
For we are the Empire-nothing shall stand in our way.
Especially not a puny HumCon warfleet.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**I'm pretty sure that isn't what Clueless used, since I have a derivative that may show up on page 5...;)
You used a P-38 Lightning as the source for your Heavy Junker, right?
I understand on the price updates, but please get them up by page 6.
I'll try to get the map up later tonight, I'm working on it as I type. I'm also trying to keep the pirates from being totally unreasonable for you. You might need to have a word with ErsadtSF, too, he tried to zap my fleet and Apollo by cheating earlier, and I had to slap him back. :frown:**
Alright. I sent you all the image updates, and there's plenty of them, so be ready.
I'll need a link to the new "Missile Frigate" image.
P-38? I just now realized that the heavy cruiser does resmble it, but I really had no source for the vessel. I just designed it as I went.
I didn't even realize the aliens had invaded! You can tell I'm very behind...
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To whoever's pirate shipbuilder:
I looked at the Pirate Shipyard recently,and saw the Superkestrel.
Sorry to say this,but it don't look too hot.
I have some alternative graphics for it if you want them.
If you do,,just mail me(there ought to be one of those little mailing links at the top of my post).
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Well, since I know what Captain Skyblade is going to want to do with the Missile Frigate image, why don't I just go ahead and do it, and save us some time?
New HumCon ship, the Missile Frigate. This replaces the old Confed Frigate. I'll get the shipyard picture updated soon, but we're having some evaluation of that right now.
(edit)Fixed typo in image tag(/edit)
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Thanks for posting the image, Mac.
Everyone keep in mind that although the Missile Frigate has replaced the original Frigate graphics, it is a totally different ship. It's merely a replacement vessel with extreme speed, firepower, and agility at the cost of less shielding. The eight flak cannons will pack a whallop, though. Fighters beware...
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Shade, please realize that we don't actually have a shipbuilder.
I have specs for the Page 5 Pirate ship, the Cougar gunship.
Shields: 400
Armor: 120
Speed: 350
Turning: • • • •
Mass: 50 tons
Cargo: 50 tons
Crew: 68
Fuel: 6 jumps
-7 Tri-Photon Turrets-4 Heavy Rocket Launchers-35 Heavy Rockets-2 Propulsion Mine Launchers-18 Propulsion Mines-3 Torpedo Launchers-35 Torpedoes
Price: 4.2M credits
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Apparently, my X-Rapiers are kicking HC warship @$$ right about now.
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Originally posted by Sattomax:
**Shade, please realize that we don't actually have a shipbuilder.
I have specs for the Page 5 Pirate ship, the Cougar gunship.
Shields: 400
Armor: 120
Speed: 350
Turning: • • • •
Mass: 50 tons
Cargo: 50 tons
Crew: 68
Fuel: 6 jumps
-7 Tri-Photon Turrets-4 Heavy Rocket Launchers-35 Heavy Rockets-2 Propulsion Mine Launchers-18 Propulsion Mines-3 Torpedo Launchers-35 Torpedoes
Price: 4.2M credits
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Gimme gimme! That's a kick-ass ship. If the HC thought the X-Rapier was bad wait till they see what I can do with this.
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Originally posted by Sattomax:
**Shade, please realize that we don't actually have a shipbuilder.
I have specs for the Page 5 Pirate ship, the Cougar gunship.
Shields: 400
Armor: 120
Speed: 350
Turning: • • • •
Mass: 50 tons
Cargo: 50 tons
Crew: 68
Fuel: 6 jumps
-7 Tri-Photon Turrets-4 Heavy Rocket Launchers-35 Heavy Rockets-2 Propulsion Mine Launchers-18 Propulsion Mines-3 Torpedo Launchers-35 Torpedoes
Price: 4.2M credits
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Sorry, moderation is going to have to kick in here. I'm going to bump the price on that up to about, oh, 12 million. Give me a break, it's faster and better shielded than a Kestrel, and the only thing the Kestrel has over it is fighters, otherwise, it's better armed too. Just because you're a shipbuilder doesn't mean you get to make insane prices for everything.
However, I will say that 12 million is a tentative figure. I'm going to be revising prices on all ships soon, which means that the Kestrel may have a price change, and if it does, the price on this will change accordingly.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Sorry, moderation is going to have to kick in here. I'm going to bump the price on that up to about, oh, 12 million. Give me a break, it's faster and better shielded than a Kestrel, and the only thing the Kestrel has over it is fighters, otherwise, it's better armed too. Just because you're a shipbuilder doesn't mean you get to make insane prices for everything.
However, I will say that 12 million is a tentative figure. I'm going to be revising prices on all ships soon, which means that the Kestrel may have a price change, and if it does, the price on this will change accordingly.
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I have to disagree here. At best it is comparable to an Alien Heavy Fighter. And that only costs 5 million. And it is supposed to be faster than the Kestrel. You don't have slow gunships y'know.
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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
**I have to disagree here. At best it is comparable to an Alien Heavy Fighter. And that only costs 5 million. And it is supposed to be faster than the Kestrel. You don't have slow gunships y'know.
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Look at the speed and armament, it's armament is almost equal to a heavy cruiser, and it can run circles around any comparable ship. I don't even think one of these can exist.
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spl_cadet, you're crazy. That thing is much better than an Alien Heavy fighter. I came close to just throwing it away myself, the main reason I didn't is that you pirates could use a good ship. And since Rak thinks it's ridiculous too, I think we're going to have to ask Sattomax to rework those stats somewhat. It needs either less weapons and armor, or less speed, or both.
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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Rak thinks it's ridiculous
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I don't think its rediculous, just that the mass required to hold all of those weapons would severly impail the ships manueverability. The only way to defeat that is to add a computer syncronized thruster array, which would raise the price well over 15M. Either lower the speed, shields, or armament.
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100 quad laser turrets, numerous flak turrets etc. and you are telling me that the armament on the Cougar is almost that of the Heavy Cruiser?! Think again. And its shields and armor together are similar to that of the Alien fighter which has heavy fusion beams which I believe put it on a footing with the Cougar.
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