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Originally posted by Emperor Ent:
**That's a load of garabage. The Argosy is one of the most powerful ships in the game, I could take out other Argosy's without scratching my paint job. Clippers were another joke. Argosy's are great because of their huge mass, for cargo (looting) and upgrades. A decent pilot in an Argosy ship is very dangerous. Argosy is so multi-purpose, trading, pirating, everything. The most underestimated ship in the game. Its power is slightly less than that of a Corvette. And one can decimate a Corvette with an Argosy, with the proper combo: skill and the right upgrades. Maybe I will sell my Destroyer and get one again?

BTW- What happends when you put a missle rack on a Defender? You get a Lightning!

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You've got a point there...If the Argosy is such a terrible ship, then why did the makers of Pale make a Mod-Argosy? They obviously had some reason, since the ship proves to be a potenial warship...

I don't believe the Defender can even hold a missile rack, much less a few missiles.

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~Captain Skyblade

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(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**You've got a point there...If the Argosy is such a terrible ship, then why did the makers of Pale make a Mod-Argosy? They obviously had some reason, since the ship proves to be a potenial warship...

I don't believe the Defender can even hold a missile rack, much less a few missiles.

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"English? Who needs that? I'm never going to England!"-Homer Simpson
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Who ever sayed that the Destroier was made out of an Argosy because its strong is some what wrong.The reason they made the Destroier out of an Argosy is because the Redels were poor and reserch was slow.Engeniers came and suggested the chep strong ship that could be changed to fit the Redels. The idea was good so the "poor" Rebels agreed.

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if it dosent doesn't
squiel its not worth
killing

Really sorry
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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

(This message has been edited by Dominick (edited 04-11-2001).)

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
**You're right there. It can't even hold the rack! Here's the stats for the Defender, Clipper, and Argosy since they're the main points of this conversation:

Ship Name: CDX Starworks I-287B Defender (Defender)
Cost: 91,000 credits

Speed: 275
Accel: Excellent
Turn: Excellent
Shields: 10
Armor: None
Guns: Maximum of 3
Turrets: None
Space: 5 tons
Cargo: 1 tons
Fuel: 3 jumps
Length: 8 m
Mass: 9 tons
Crew: 1

Standard weapons:
3 Laser Cannons

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Hehe...Even if the player was to sale his laser cannons, all he could do was buy a missile rack with five missiles. Not worth it, especially for such a wimpy ship.

I think I've also just found out that the Defender is a better ship then the Krait. They both have the same shield stats, but the Defender has a much better shield recharge rate, and it much faster. Hard to believe...

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~Captain Skyblade

President of the Corsair Development Team
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very sorry for spamming

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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

Hmm, well... I personally would just buy a Kestrel and go through the galaxy killing your famed and precious Argosy's, Clippers and Scoutships... (scoutship better than Argosy? pff yeah right! HELLO?!?!?)

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"I ate a bug once..."
-Shabbabaram!

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Originally posted by Shabbabaram!:
Hmm, well... I personally would just buy a Kestrel and go through the galaxy killing your famed and precious Argosy's, Clippers and Scoutships... (scoutship better than Argosy? pff yeah right! HELLO?!?!?)

So which ship do you say is the most under estimated, Shabbabaram!? (That is what this thread is about.)

And, "Yes." In my opinion the Scoutship is not only better than an Argosy, it is the most under estimated ship.

- KK

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“You will find that our crew will be either the most valuable, loyal, and trustworthy of allies, or ... if you insist on trying to swallow us up -- the worst of enemies. The choice is yours. And should you choose to fight us ... don’t bring a knife to a gunfight!”

The Scoutship is a great ship. It's cheap, and with proper upgrades makes a great
fighter.

In my opinion the Rebels should have modified it to make their fighter, not use
a weak little Manta.

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SilverDragon you seem to like every ship,i guess evry ship has it's own pro's and con's so i really have no idea but i would like a ship that is respably good in all area's........if possible

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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

I hate all Confed military ships, and dislike how the Rapier performs (I love
how it looks though).

I hate the Courier, Light Freighter, Bulk Freighter and have a low opinion of the
Manta.

The Defender is pretty rubbish too. Although visualling I like it.

Ships I like: Shuttlecraft, Scoutship, Argosy, Clipper, Lightning, Corvette, Kestrel, Rebel Destroyer, Rebel Cruiser, Alien Fighter, Alien Cruiser.

Not quite EVERY ships, but a lot of them that come up.

My favourites are the Rebel Destroyer, Kestrel and Lightning.

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Oh, and those Defender stats going around are wrong, I think.

Since when has the Defender had a speed of 275? That makes it slower than the
Clipper (300), Lightning (350?) and MUCH slower than a well upgraded Rebel
Destroyer.

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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
**Oh, and those Defender stats going around are wrong, I think.

Since when has the Defender had a speed of 275? That makes it slower than the
Clipper (300), Lightning (350?) and MUCH slower than a well upgraded Rebel
Destroyer.

**

Well, don't blame me. All I did was copy and paste. It was from a download from the add-ons department of this site.

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"English? Who needs that? I'm never going to England!"-Homer Simpson

I don't - in fact I didn't even check who did it.

But I just wanted to make sure I hadn't gone COMPLETELY mad.

Woof! Woof! Woof! Meow!

(Squirrel!!!)

Woof! Woof! Woof!

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That's great SD, just remember we're all here for you. There, there.

Anyway, am I the only one who doesn't know what Dominick did? All I know is that he copied something with swears in it and posted it on the web board. I dunno. Whatever it was, I forgive you.

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"English? Who needs that? I'm never going to England!"-Homer Simpson

Actually, he didn't swear, he just said "dude" about 200 times......

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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
...In my opinion the Rebels should have modified it to make their fighter, not use
a weak little Manta.

Hmmm. Now if only I knew how to program a plug.

(C'mon, one of you programmers.) That is a good idea, SilverDragon.

- KK

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“You will find that our crew will be either the most valuable, loyal, and trustworthy of allies, or ... if you insist on trying to swallow us up -- the worst of enemies. The choice is yours. And should you choose to fight us ... don’t bring a knife to a gunfight!”

I just checked all the ship's stats. It wouldn't be outside the Rebel's capability -
they made a similar increase from the Argosy to Rebel Destroyer.

The Clipper would also be quite a good ship, but it's a little expensive, which
definately isn't what the Rebels would want.

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Ha, ha, ha! What would they call it if they modified a defender? A Manta! Ah ha ha ha!

Ahem

'Scuse me.

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"English? Who needs that? I'm never going to England!"-Homer Simpson

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
**Ha, ha, ha! What would they call it if they modified a defender? A Manta! Ah ha ha ha!

Ahem

'Scuse me.

**

Believe me, A Defender's secondary name is Trash. The Manta is a fast and excellent ship, well suited to turn a Defender to scrap metal. I even like to buy a Manta as my own ship...

Maybe someday I could make a plugin for Escape Velocity that gives the Rebellion a fighter based on the Clipper design?

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~Captain Skyblade

President of the Corsair Development Team
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