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**I started experimenting with them in the Satori system near Palshife...;)
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Oh, LOL, they are the same as regular escorts except I can call them back to my ship. Lol
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Hey, Get off my side of the escape pod!
Luxury Liners... Easy prey, and they have around 1.1 mil!!! Of course, they're normally confeds, but who cares about confeds? 
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Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?
In the last century, Humankind has had three major achievements:
Flight
Automobiles
The ability to utterly anihhilte themselves.
Communism is a government where everyone starves equally.
1.1 million for luxury liners? Forgive me, but the last time I checked, liners only had about 40,000 creds...the most I've seen is 75K.
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75K I think is right, I have NEVER seen 1.1 Mil on a luxery liner, and ALL luxery liners are Confeds and they travel in the Cappella(sp) System.
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Originally posted by Capt. Splender:
**I don't know. I don't even bother with the argosy. I go from Shuttlecraft - > Scoutship -> Rapier -> Cruiser. I hunt pirates personaly, just sit in Darven in kill em with torp's. Cheap and easy if you do it right. Try to capture disabled kesrels, acasionally you get lucky.
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I have developed a (rather boring) strategy that I can go Shuttle to Corvette to Kestrel. Buy equipment on Tabletop in the Eridani system, and sell it on Luna in the Sol system. If you have six light freighters as escorts, you can make a million in about 12 cycles. When you have the Corvette, go to either of the uninhabited systems outside of Zaxted, and wait for pirate Argosies to attack you. You get about 20,000 credits a ship, and increase your combat status in the process. When you have enough credits, you can buy the Kestrel, or you can hire escorts to attack small independent systems for tribute (provided you have sufficient combat status). Do what you want from there. I have never been satisfied with any ship other than the Kestrel, though, as cruisers are very slow, but spend your credits as you will.
SandMan
I disagree with that strategy. How do you defend yourself against the pirate fleet that follows you? I know a shuttle can't destroy a fleet of pirate fighters. Also, go from Plataue (sp) to Eridani takeing the most least expensive from Plataue (sp) and unload at Tabletop, then take something from there to Earth. I can't remember exact commodity, but you can earn money fast enough. I go with missions and then pirate hunting.
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Those who stand, will always fall.
Stay away from the Kestrel. It's too slow, and speed is significant in battle. Your best bet is to plunder merchants in rebel space and take the occasional rush delivery, and save up for a Corvette, or a Rebel Destroyer when you complete the Rebel Alien missions.
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There was a terrible ghastly noise.
There was a terrible ghastly silence."
- Demolition of Earth, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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I am currently a kestrel, and I find the manueverability and speed fine. Geez, I can outrun my lightnings! And that's with no speed upgrades!
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The Kestrel is a great ship, i took over my empire in one of those, I also destroyed the alien cruiser in it to it was really easy!!!
My Kestral was flagship of a small fleet.
Kestrel- my ship
4 corvetts
2 confed gunships
we took out cruisers easy 
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(This message has been edited by Burning cow (edited 08-19-2000).)
Confed Gunship? What's that? Are you using a plug or do you just mean a Confed Gunboat?
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opps I mean Gun boat, the next fighter thing up from a patrol ship.
the one with the tri wing design and more missiles and stuff
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We usually try to stick to system oriented discussions, but this has to be said!
We think the Kestrel is the best ship in EV. Why? One reason, the lightnings.
We know that standard you can only get 2 lightnings, Matt Burch has about 6 (more maybe?), but thats still weak!
How about a Kestral with 40 lightnings?
Yes, 40, the whole galaxy conquered, all cruisers and destroyers, and Aliens, and anything else that moves through space is at your mercy.
Sol is ours, Mars, Luna, Palashife (wierd spelling!!).
Get a Kestral by capturing one at a pirate system.
We suggest (but hey, everyone has their own preference) buying a light frieghter, getting a missile rack and 3 missiles. Disable a lightning from a Kestral in Altaire (near Confed space, but Kestrels come there quite a bit, more in some places, but this is close to inhabited space for fuel and recharging. Once you get a lightning, take out Kestrels using lasers and javalins (use the Monty if you HAVE TO, BUT IT TAKES THE CHALLENGE OUT!!!! 
). Now just keep trying to capture it. We know you don't have a great shot at it, but it DOES WORK EVENTUALLY!. Plus, you have saved 10 million credits, which you can use as upgrades.
To get the 40 lightnings, just use BackSTABa's (a member of The Macology.com Team) tractor-beam trick to get 40 lightnings inside your ship. Taking over systems after that is easy cause EV can only have 32 (or is it 34, 36?) ships in system, so Sol shoots out 2 or maybe 3 ships, then gives in!
Also, the kestrel moves faster than any cruiser. Our Kestral, with 40 lightnings, and some proton turrets would crush ANY Rebel or Confed Cruiser, simply because their fighters are so crappy.
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Maybe it doesn't matter anymore, but here's how I got a Kestrel, the route I took to get it, and the reason why I got rid of it as soon as possible.
Of course, I start with the little shuttlecraft, and then get a scoutship A.S.A.P. so that I can do more than one mission at once.
Next step is getting the 750k for an Argosy, which is (in my opinion) a great ship. Load it up with armour, all the shield capacitators it'll take and then fill up the rest of the space with missiles and racks. You should be able to take down Corvettes with ease, and Kestrels/Frigates/Destroyers can all be taken down with Argosies. Oh, and get rid of those feeble laser turrets, and get proton turrets instead. Add in all the manoevering upgrades, and you have a battle ship (I got tritanium for mine - you'll need a couple of mass expansions to take in everything). Then I do the Diphidia II mission - that gets you 1mill. credits, and with your ship trade in you'll be able to afford a Corvette when you finish the mission string on New Istanbul.
A word o fadvice - if you see a derelict like the S.S. Forrester, board it to get the pirates to jump in, then just disable them with missiles. Board 'em and get the ships as escorts - now you have some real firepower. Alternatively, you might want to nick their ship for your own. A rapier is a nice ship. But I prefer a bit more shielding and armour.
With a corvette, you have to get rid of the javelin pod/javelins and heavy rocket launcher/heavy rockets. This frees up a lot of space. Now ditch the laser turrets and replace them with proton turrets (if the feds hate you, then Akio sells them, incase you thought Sol was the only system to sell them, as I did for a while) Buy all 3 types of armour (yes, I know it takes up 65 tons, but it's worth it in battle) and 4 shield capacitators. Now your ship IS kestrel-class in terms of shield. Buy a missile jammer, and all the 3 manoevering upgrades, and suddenly your ship is lightning fast, and as manoeverable as a fighter, whilst being super strong. Basically, avoiding any weapon as easy as pie now. Okay, so it cost a bit, but then all you need to do is hang about in Darven or ALtair, or one of the pirate systems for some good ships to come around -you CAN take on anything, ANYTHING with this beast of a ship. Well - almost. But Kestrels are easily disabled, just pound em with missiles and then shoot em with the proton turrets to finish it off. 400k, easy peasy. If you don't like battling, then just get a good combat rating, and land on a pirate planet, in the bar you should get the UGE mission string - 100k missions in the mission computer, very nice. I find that if you transport a 'fed criminal (shady guys who say your ship is fast, and offer you 75k to move them to a pirate system) then you get the mission when you drop the criminal off.
So, anyway, you've got your super corvette, and you're considering the Kestrel upgrade. Let me put it this way - the corvette is easily good enough to complete any rebel or fed mission, and, in all honesty, you'll want a cruiser of some sort when finishing the artemis group missions. So the Kestrel really isn't needed. Sure, it's nice to have the lightnings in their bay, but I had 6 rapiers as escorts with my corvette, and at 1million a time to replace, it was too steep. And besides, I don't think the Kestrel is manoeverable enough to do justice to it's 10mil price tag.
As a final note, here's a funny glitch in the game that can net you just over a million credits. I did this in my rebel cruiser, whether it works on ships without docking bays I don't know, but anyway... WHen you disable a Kestrel, try and leave the two lightnings so that they're buzzing after you - just avoid them, it's easily possible. Board the Kestrel, and if you capture it, the lightnings will stop attacking. Tell them to return to the mothership - and they'll return to your ship, so you just sell them off at a considerable price each time. Easy money. And the Kestrel you nicked 'em from will still have 2 of it's own lightnings. So you don't lose out either way.
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I have a kestral with all the escorts you can have. I have 3 Kestrals And 3 Chorvetts.
Beat that.
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Originally posted by Bigpimpn:
I have a kestral with all the escorts you can have. I have 3 Kestrals And 3 Chorvetts.
Beat that.
Didn't you read the post? 40 Lightnings does beat that out. Oh and cable_guy,
when you mention 4 shield capacitors making corvettes shields Kestrel class, that's
not entirely accurate. Capacitors add 60 shield in the Data file scale, which
translates to 6 shields shipyard scale, which is capacitors are kind of a waste of
space, especially w/ cruisers (800 to 806 isn't too good). Just that I'd point that
out
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Originally posted by Bigpimpn:
I have a kestral with all the escorts you can have. I have 3 Kestrals And 3 Chorvetts.
Beat that.
Sure can. I have a kestrel and 6 Rebel Cruisers as escort 
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"Do the mission strings for the trading companies, then you get petitive missions worth over 100,000 a go!"
---oh yeah, talk about big time cash
keep killing those kestrels, no need to pay off the lightnings though...just fly away, leaving them just perfect distance away, and turn around, while still using the velocity to stay out of reach from their fire, and shoot to kill. easy, you can do the same thing against hte kestrels, talk about cash!
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THE WHITE SHADOW
Kestrels, corvette escorts... it doesn't bother me. The truth is that my corvette can take down any modded up Kestrel, and then after that it's childs play. Besides, with my current ship setup I could destroy you. How does a Rebel cruiser with two fed cruisers as escorts tickle you? Not possible you say. I've got proof....
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Originally posted by cable_guy:
**Kestrels, corvette escorts... it doesn't bother me. The truth is that my corvette can take down any modded up Kestrel, and then after that it's childs play. Besides, with my current ship setup I could destroy you. How does a Rebel cruiser with two fed cruisers as escorts tickle you? Not possible you say. I've got proof.... <IMG SRC="http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/smile.gif" HEIGHT="15" WIDTH="15">
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They Tickle me alot damn it. Mine is better. I got a rebel cruiser with 4 rebel cruisers and 2 confed cruisers as escort. Don't now how you can beat that, unless yeah cheat
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Oh my god! They killed Kenny... YOU BASTARDS!!!
