Thanks for your advice, but when I demand a tribune for Pirates Cove, they send out 5 rapiers. I'm successfull at killing one at a time, but immediatly after I destroy one, another one replaces it. If I kill one, and I look at my ship scanner, there are STILL 5 Rapiers! Should I just skip the pirate systems and go for the independant ones? Or keep trying to dominate the pirates? (suicide!)
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Don't take this as a slam against your pilotting skills, but if you can't defeat rapiers, then perhaps domination isn't your best bet. Wait until you get a better ship.
BTW, Pirate's Cove has many more than 5 rapiers in its defense fleet, so if it takes you a while to defeat one, get ready for the long haul.
Good luck.
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Jon Potter
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Thanks. I have a Kestrel, a partical beam, an Ultimate rating, and the honor that I've murdered and hijacked over 200 pirates. But thank you for your honesty, I must admit that this is my first time dealing with angry governments. I CAN kill Rapiers, just not a whole friggen mob of them. What larger ships can you get? I know that you can purchase rebel and confederate ships after you take over a few planets, but what can I get now?
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Okay, hold up.
Firstly, getting Rebel and/or Confed ships has nothing to do with dominating planets. You do need a high combat rating and must be well-liked, but you aren't required to have dominated any planets.
Secondly, if you already have the particle beam you're only one short mission string away from being able to buy Confed ships. I know that opinions differ, but IMO, for raw hitting power and the shields to take a sustained assault, nothing beats the Confed Cruiser.
Thirdly, until you get Reb/Fed capital ships, the Kestrel is the best ship in the game. If you're having trouble with rapiers try upgrading the kestrel with the speed/turning/acceleration upgrades, shield booster/capacitors and some armor plating. The Kestrel should serve you well.
BTW, all of this advice is assuming that you're playing standard EV without any plugs. If you're using plugs, some or all of this advice may be incorrect.
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Jon Potter
Thank you for your cooperation. Good night.
I have a few comments to add to Jon's fine reply. I wonder if you are using a plugin, because I just looked at Pirate's Cove with Resedit and it has a defense count of 1324, which means it launches a total of 32 ships with 4 ships at a time flying. In addition, assuming you have the game speed set to 100% and no plugins, a Kestrel has a turing of 3, an RCS upgrade will give you a turning of 4. Torpedoes, the difficult part about a fleet of Rapiers, will only be fired if you have a turning of 3 or lower. Thus, with the RCS upgrade you will never have a torpedo fired on you. You will find that the power of the defense fleet of a system follows pretty well with what is sold there. So Torgo has 25 defenders in waves of 5, while Earth has 2276 Frigates in waves of 5.
Oh, if you want replicating ships go to the link below 
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if you can dominate pirates cove well then dont take this personally but you suck
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First of all, I don't suck. I've seriously tried donimating pirates cove, and I can't. I have taken the advice to try buying shield upgrades, but they just blow me up before I get a chance to single one out. Right now, I really don't need jack-ass comments about my piloting skills, so please, besides Jon, somebody give me some REAL advice.
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hey, I dominated Sol. And I never dominated Pirate's Cove.
Only becasue I never tried 
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Rapiers are a pretty simple ship to destroy, unless you get close in front of them, then they piff heavy rockets at you. Try and stay to the sides of them a bit and hit them with your turrets and there's not a hell of a lot they can do.
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Originally posted by kestrelman:
**First of all, I don't suck. I've seriously tried donimating pirates cove, and I can't. I have taken the advice to try buying shield upgrades, but they just blow me up before I get a chance to single one out. Right now, I really don't need jack-ass comments about my piloting skills, so please, besides Jon, somebody give me some REAL advice.
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Try overloading the system while fighting the thing. Get as many fighters as you can (a little cheat I heard was to launch all fighters before landing then purchase more:another cheat that actually works is to disable another Kestral and steal its fighters from its ship while your fighters are launched). Also purchase escorts that can fight for that mission only. They will defend you until death. You are NOT a loser. There will be five fighters out fighting you until you destroy enough. When there are only four, you are about to win. Oh yea, fighting pirates will put you in a good light with both the Confeds and the Rebels. REBELS RULE
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Originally posted by kestrelman:
**Thanks for your advice, but when I demand a tribune for Pirates Cove, they send out 5 rapiers. I'm successfull at killing one at a time, but immediatly after I destroy one, another one replaces it. If I kill one, and I look at my ship scanner, there are STILL 5 Rapiers! Should I just skip the pirate systems and go for the independant ones? Or keep trying to dominate the pirates? (suicide!)
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Independnt systems also have defenses of their own. Some have defenders which are as easy to kill as flies while some contain corvettes in which you will have to know how o fight to even think of beating them. Keep on the pirates because attacking independants will not get you anywhere with any government
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Originally posted by Punkster:
**Rapiers are a pretty simple ship to destroy, unless you get close in front of them, then they piff heavy rockets at you. Try and stay to the sides of them a bit and hit them with your turrets and there's not a hell of a lot they can do.
Sheppo
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Good strategy. I prefer the straight on fight and avoid he heavy rockets. Your wy has stealth. Try the monty Python Manuever.
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Originally posted by kestrelman:
**First of all, I don't suck. I've seriously tried donimating pirates cove, and I can't. I have taken the advice to try buying shield upgrades, but they just blow me up before I get a chance to single one out. Right now, I really don't need jack-ass comments about my piloting skills, so please, besides Jon, somebody give me some REAL advice.
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I f your shields go down then just fly away until they recharge and then take n the rapiers again, eventually you'll kill them, actually it shouldn't take that long in the first place.
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