Which do you think would win in a fair fight, Confed. muscle or UE ingenuity?
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Hmmmmmmm... I think the Confed cruiser would win in a fight with a UE cruiser. The Confed cruiser has much more shielding than the UE cruiser, and its Confed Patrol ships easily outmatch the slower and less well armed UE fighters.
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Confed Cruiser. Its shielding is better, and it outperforms the UE cruiser in about every single way. I figured out EVO really sucks when I beat a Voinian frigate with a shuttlecraft...
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Well, the scale of everything sheild and damage wise was halved in EV/O, so it wouldn't be fair at all. The UE-fighters would rip the patrol ships a newn one though...
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It's not really a fair match, if you think about it. The Confed Cruiser has the benefit of a hundred years of technology advances over the U.E. Cruiser. So, of course the Confed Cruiser would win.
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It's not really a fair match, if you think about it. The Confed Cruiser has the benefit of a hundred years of technology advances over the U.E. Cruiser. So, of course the Confed Cruiser would win.
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I agree. Also, Confed Patrol Ships can easily destroy UE fighters with their missiles, and the UE fighters are to slow to catch up to Confed Patrol Ships. Another disadvantage of the UE fighter is that it carriers rockets, Confed Patrol Ships carry missile.
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Originally posted by Cotton Mouse:
**Well, the scale of everything sheild and damage wise was halved in EV/O, so it wouldn't be fair at all. The UE-fighters would rip the patrol ships a newn one though...
**The Confed Patrol ship is an easy match for the UE Fighter. It has:
1. Better maneuverability
2. Missiles (so that it can beat up the UE fighter from a distance while the UE fighter has to get really close)
3. Proton cannons (even though they don't fire faster, they have MUCH better range. I think they also have better damage.)
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No.
The UE fighter has same sheilds, and more armor (5 is more than none).
It's weapons are faster firings, and it has more, it takes forever to kill a ship with defences of a scoutship when you only have 3 proton cannons. The rockets the UE fighter has are about as damaging as heavy rockets. Heavy rockets kill a patol ship in one hit, so these probably take 2 rockets from EV/O. The patrol ship has 2 missles, and it takes 4 to kill a scoutship (same stats as UE fighter). Since the AI in EV lets the comp use more missles that the ship has (the fed' fires 3 instead of 2), the UE fighter has sheilds left, and with its rockets and quick firing cannons, the fed should get wasted on it's first pass, assuming It fires all it's missles before engaging in close combat.------------------
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Originally posted by Whurp:
**ha, every ship in EV could whoop its equivelant in EVO...no matter what.
**Right on!
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What makes you think that? U r stuped, don't U?
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Sadly, my good friend the UE Cruiser would be slaughtered by the Fed or Rebel Cruisers simply because they have a LOT more shielding. That's how it would be AI v. AI, at any rate. A modified UE Cruiser piloted by a good player could pull it off with moderate difficulty, though.
If you're looking for the best Cruiser of all time, the Rebel Cruiser fits the bill...the UE Cruiser comes a VERY close 2nd on my list however.
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<b>ha, every ship in EV could whoop its equivelant in EVO...no matter what.</b>
Nope.
The Igazra could probably take out the Rebel Cruiser (same shielding and far better anti-shield phase weapons) and cripple the Fed Cruiser.
The Crescent Warship would slaughter the Kestrel in an even fight (though I must say the Kestrel looks cooler)
The Azdara could take defenders, mantas, and patrol ships with its shield regeneration (rapiers and lightings would edge it because of greater firepower though)
The arada and any of its variants could take on ANY small ship. Hell, the Zachit Arada would give the Corvette a run for its money in terms of firepower.
The Miranu Freighters are way better than the Bulk Freighter as well...at least the heavy one is.
If you think about it, it breaks even......EV's 2 big Cruisers can take practically anything (save perhaps the Igazra), but the rest of it......
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What makes you think that? U r stuped, don't U?No, it's just the fact that anything could do something, it's just a matter of capability. Sorry for exploiting grammar
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AIM: evandrewm / xaeomega(This message has been edited by Andrew M (edited 07-06-2000).)
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You're forgetting the Voinian Cruiser. It has:
Armour not shields. All exept one or two of the weapons in EV are made to destroy shields.
Very powerful wepons. Rockets and neutrons would rip through the shields of the enemy.
Althought the fighters are pretty slow and don't last too long, they are still very powerful when encountered at close range.
The intercepters/mantas would be very difficult for the Voinian Cruiser to destroy, but they would cause little damage to the armour of the Voinians before they were blown away by rockets or slaughtered by the neutrons. If the intercepters fought the heavyfighters, they would probably kill eachother. The fighters are very powerful with rockets and netrons and again protons and missiles are very ineffectie against armour. They could win because of the manouverability (sp?) but the rockets can still almost destroy an intercepter, and the heavyfighters have several each.
I'm going to pit them. A few times, totaly farely. Then we'll see.
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I have it!!!
I made an EVO plug-in that added the Confed Cruiser and Confed Patrol Ship, and the weapons they have. I made a few systems where I could simulate battles between the UE and Confeds. Anyway, here are the results:
Human vs. AI<<<
Unmodified Human Confed Patrol Ship vs. AI UE Fighter = The UE Fighter wins
Slightly Modified Human Confed Patrol Ship vs. AI UE Fighter = The UE Fighter wins
Unmodified Human UE Fighter vs. AI Confed PS = The UE Fighter wins
Slightly Modified Human UE Fighter vs. AI Confed PS = The UE Fighter easily wins
Unmodified Human UE Cruiser vs. AI Confed Cruiser = The Confed cruiser wins
Slightly Modified Human UE Cruiser vs. AI Confed Cruiser = The Confed cruiser wins (although it was close)
Unmodified Human Confed Cruiser vs. AI UE Cruiser = The Confed cruiser wins
Slightly modified Human Confed Cruiser vs. AI UE Cruiser = The Confed cruiser wins
AI vs. AI<<<
AI Confed Cruiser vs. AI UE Cruiser = Confed Cruiser wins
Overrall Winner: Confed Cruiser!!!!
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(This message has been edited by Captain Carnotaur (edited 07-13-2000).)
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Make it ai vs ai to be fare.
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That's 'cause the Confeds rule all!
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