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    • Final Battle


      The Destroy Spacefort delta doesen't work! The sd dosen't show up!

      How do you get the destroy alien homeworld string?

      Don't worry about spoiling, I want to know what happens, and the suprise is not a big thing to me.

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      Some of you guys know me from the Ares board.

    • Right, the ting about final battle, is than most of the missions DONT work. Even the last alien mission doesn't work, nor the final mission of the set after that. There is a FB 2 in the works, though.

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    • AirPlane: go to (url="http://"http://lemmings.tsx.org")http://lemmings.tsx.org(/url) to download the latest, nearly bug free, version of Final Battle.

      Cotton Mouse: Skyhawk decided the EV engine was too limiting for what he wanted to to with FB2, therefore Final Battle 2 is now being developed in a seperate engine. The engine is titled Epsilon, being developed primarily by Jos Delbar, HellHunter and Skyhawk. The web page is (url="http://"http://home.maine.rr.com/mithril/epsilon")here, I believe(/url)

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      -The Fonz
      (url="http://"http://catalyst.xs.mw")Catalyst(/url)

      (This message has been edited by Jericon (edited 01-15-2000).)

    • Wrong again. FBII is gone. It was going to be Xenocide but that was dumped earlier. A new scenario is in the works now which will not run with the same links that the Xenocide Scenarion had. It follows a set of guidelines that will make it a better Stand-Alone game. No more FB referances.

      AJ

    • Final Battle is not going to have a sequel, I'm pretty sure. Mostly cause I'm not doing one, and Skyhawk/Mithril Echo/Evan is either, AFAIK. He is working on a new game engine referred to as Epsilon. The concept of Epsilon is very interesting, but I don't know what kind of state it is in.

    • IMHO, FB2 or Xenocide or Epsilon or whatever it is now will never be complete. It's VaporWare, and even if it is completed that will be years from now at it's current rate. I have a feeling that many of these huge developing plug-ins aren't developing at all, but are rather rotting on someone's hard drive. I'm sure there are plenty in the works, but I think that there are a few that aren't.

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      Luca Rescigno
      "I have nothing to fear but secret sauce"

    • Well, to some extent Epsilon could be called vaporware, as in it's not out yet, but it's really not what the traditional usage of the term "vaporware" is in the computer industry. That usage is for 'ware that doesn't exist in any form, save for a PR announcement meant to distract from a competitor's product. E.G. "Don't buy OS X because StudlyOS will be out within a few months with full Protected Journaling, Preemptive memory, Multi-tasking PDF-based hardware abstraction, full win32, linux, MacOS and Amiga binary compatibility, and a groovy purple and green color scheme." 😉

      Ambrosia has had it's share of software projects which went nowhere. Who remembers their abortive investigation into programming for the BeOS? Or Manse?

      Also, please remember that the people who are writing this (primarily Skyhawk/Mithril Echo/Evan) are for the most part about the same age as most people here -- they're not even in college yet.

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      Because it's there,
      MotherF----r

    • Yeah, you're right. What I really meant by VaporWare is something that's in development for a long time, then forgot about by the developer but no one else. Epsilon isn't that, it's just been talked about a lot but we haven't heard any news about it recently. One good example of a project that exists but almost no one knows about and will almost certainly never be seen is EV: the Gap. It's based off of a novel, I think, and it has a website, but it's never talked about by EVers nor the developer. Kinda strange, eh?

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      Luca Rescigno
      "I have nothing to fear but secret sauce"

    • I've been involved with EV for quite a long time and I have never heard of EV: the Gap

      Barkman

    • I have a different name for that: BOI projects. BOI standing for Best Of Intentions.

      BOI projects get started when you get excited by an idea you have, you start making graphics using the shareware version of Infini-D or StrataStudio off a MacAddict CD, and you make a website about it and announce your project to the world.

      Then reality sets in. Your grades are low last semester and your need to get them up. You get a part-time job. Your friends want you to go to movies and restaurants and stuff with them. You get a girl/boyfriend, or the one you already have asks you why you spend time working on stupid stuff on the computer instead of going out with them. Etc., etc., etc.

      Soon you haven't worked on the damn thing for months, you can't remember when the last time you played EV was, but your website is still up and looks nice. Oh well. You had the best of intentions, but it looks like your plug will never get made.

      There's also what I refer to as "pulling a Tingley" after Jay Tingley, original ev.com webmaster. He was working on the first mammoth TC of EV, made from an Alien perspective, called Valrox or some such name. He had some awesome-looking graphics, a great website, and as I understand it, had the thing close to release quality when he decided "to hell with it all" and left the EV community altogether. Rather like what happened with the Mac port of Half-life.

      I don't know if Epsilon will turn out to be a real thing or a BOI project. It might even be a case of "pulling a Tingley" -- but I hope not!

      In the end, it's up to the creator of the software, and what his/her priorities are.

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      Because it's there,
      MotherF----r

      (This message has been edited by WickedDyno (edited 01-16-2000).)

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      Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
      IMHO, FB2 or Xenocide or Epsilon or whatever it is now will never be complete. It's VaporWare, and even if it is completed that will be years from now at it's current rate.

      It dosen't look very vaporous from this angle. 😉

      -Hawk

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      (url="http://"http://home.maine.rr.com/mithril/")Epsilon(/url)