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Originally posted by Urughtaed:
**Stooping to sophomoric personal attack just shows a lack of perspective. Good start. I'm here for what looks like to be a impossible cause, which is having you realize/admit the fallacy of your reasons for not registering Avara. And it's because I appreciate the game.
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Heh, contradicting yourself in your very first sentence.
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Originally posted by Urughtaed:
**Marvelous assumption. Yes, I "obviously" haven't--my eyes have been opened. I don't understand why you completely ignore the point of the paragraph (being addressed) and instead respond to it without any hint of pertinence.
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Actually, I was responding to the very last part of the paragraph. I like to completely quote people.
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Originally posted by Urughtaed:
**So the 19 people other than Juri on "credits" screen did two things: "initial distribution" and the "tracker." Look here: Avara was originally a solo runaround game in need of beta testing and levels. Unfortunately, on this point you are guilty of your own accusation: knowing nothing about Avara yet pretending to.
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Well, I do say you've done your homework on the history of Avara. But it is obvious that you know little about Avara itself. I have been around for years. I am personally friends with some of the oldest people who still play Avara. I could care less about what Ambrosia did for the game when it was still a possible money maker. But like I said, I don't hold the fact that they only want to make money against them, all businesses are like that.
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Originally posted by Urughtaed:
**So one of the reasons you haven't registered is because Ambrosia isn't "continueing to contribute" ? Hmm, did you even read or think about what I wrote? 1) Somehow you manage to ignore/or are blind to the fact (that I established above) that Ambrosia has no obligation, NONE, to anything concerning Avara as long as it's bug free. 2) Thus, the $20 is for the game only and absolutely nothing else, meaning that if you play it you should register (which apparently you have) 3) Even if "continueing to contribute" was part of the $20, you don't reveal what "contributing" is supposed to be, if anything. Headaches? How can you, as unregistered ("expired"), even begin to complain? Being shareware, Avara is free to people who refuse to pay.
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- When have I ever asked for Ambrosia to do anything for Avara? For years they provided the tracker and I was content. But now they decide to interfer. How do you think Avara has survived all this time? On its own. All I want is for Ambrosia to leave it alone.
- I am not registering anything of Ambrosia's because of this recent event. I have not cared much for Ambrosia when it comes to Avara for a long time, but I let it go because of the other things they have produced. But now I see they care only for the money makers.
- Continueing to contribute would involve the things that like those the Avara community has gotten for themselves: Aline, Avara.org, ALD, etc.
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Originally posted by Urughtaed:
**Edgar's case was a definite mistake, I granted that already. Again, Ambrosia wasn't made any more happy about fixing Edgar's condition when Edgar and Co. came with guns blazing against Ambrosia in general. Along with the fact that the tracker is pure privilege, getting loud and angry wasn't such a great idea (as it's proven by Ambrosia's initial reactions). And I doubt that they chose to ignore Edgar--rather, obvious situational explanations have been ignored which would explain Ambrosia's not addressing Edgar quickly. So, before Taz! or andrew even begin to address the problems, they're already being deluged with ugly and even unwarranted crap--which doesn't exactly make people respond in a friendly, enthusiastic, or apologetic manner.
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Of course, Edgar should have been happy that he had been banned without notice and that noone would respond to his emails. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Urughtaed:
**YES, banning Edgar was a mistake, and keeping him still banned is also--basically speaking. Heh Defender, it's amusing to see you cite the "he started it" argument. But it makes me sick to see you try to use this whole deal for a flimsy attack on Ambrosia which in turn is used as justification to screw the obvious and evident concept of paying-for-playing. Rank.
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Umm, perhaps I missed something. Looking back, I don't see where I cited the "he started it" argument. I didn't use that at all. I commented that tensions between the Avara community and Ambrosia have been around long before all of this. I didn't name a party as to who was to blame for that.
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