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Originally posted by DarkBlade:
**If you'll look to your left folks, you'll see what happens when a newbie (no offense intended) meets the most provocotive person on the boards (im sure thats your intent chill). Stop the flaming! It seems people's views have been presented, now there is chaos, please put this topic to death mods.
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::materializes, an icy grin cracks upon the face of the apparition::

har har har har har

I plan to go in the way more or less of FF tactics, (I just loved FF7a lot),
I'm a strategy-RPG fan at heart but tell me would it be possibel to implement that style of game playwith the engine in its present incarnation??

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Originally posted by Terminsel:
**... although chill tends to get emotional about FF7. And I agree with saph, we won't even know it but we will be implementing everything we've learned, everything we've seen, even in tiny amounts.
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I'm quite original don't worry about me making FF7 rips(oh btw has anyone heard about the remake for PS2 (url="http://"http://www.thegia.com")http://www.thegia.com(/url) ). I have my own style and a pleasant
approach to my creation. Has anyone tried learning to draw instead of using CG , seriously it's easier than using 3d graphics programs and they take up less memory... duh!

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Originally posted by chill_rx:

**Has anyone tried learning to draw instead of using CG , seriously it's easier than using 3d graphics programs and they take up less memory... duh!

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<The mouse enters.>
Yeah, but don't you need a scanner(or a computer camera-thingy)?
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A member of a large and powerful tribe, whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controling
The new congressmen say that they're going to turn the government around. I hope I don't get run over again...

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Yeah, but don't you need a scanner(or a computer camera-thingy)?
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yes or a tablet, but either way is usually less expensive,and easier to use...

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Yes, but it would be a pain in the arse to draw each sprite, rather than using a modelling program to do it for you.

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Originally posted by theGlueBubble:
**Yes, but it would be a pain in the arse to draw each sprite, rather than using a modelling program to do it for you.

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I have to draw each and every sprite by HAND , all because this #@% & CD doesn't have one useful BIT of programs!!!
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Originally posted by ill_a_nois:
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The man, Has a point , they are technically no longer RPG's
but action games with RPG features, games such as Diable and Myth are noting more than action/strategy games.

~Ill_a_nois
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Well, Myth was never billed as an RPG, that's always been just a 3d realtime strategy game. Diablo on the other hand is just a slash em up action game, like you said. A damn good one, but that's another story.

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Originally posted by TheDarkDragon:
**I seem to have missed something...
An RPG is, by definition, a Role Playing Game. Therefore it is a game in which you play as someone else. Traditionally, RPGs have statistics (D&D; come to mind) as to how accurately you hit and how much damage you do. No where do I see a rule that says it has to be either turnbased or realtime. So what I have missed (and I always have, no matter which webboard I go to) is how Diablo isn't an RPG. I'm not saying it is per say. I am simply saying that it is by no means absolutely not an RPG. See what I'm saying?

As for Realtime/Turnbased, It all depends on the graphics, 2-d is generally better for turnbased (think Cythera, M:tG, and Chess) and (fake) 3-d is generally better for real time (think diablo).

My dollar and 2˘.
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If you take RPG in a literal sense and say that any game where you take the role of a person, you could say that games like Dead or Alive and Streetfighter are RPGs. In my opinion, what really makes an RPG is the depth of the storyline, and a sense of character development. And I don't mean gaining experience and upping your stats development, I mean emotional development.

What it really boiled down to for me in saying that Diablo isn't an RPG is that the whole premise of the game from the very start was: "There's a demon down in that church. Here's your sword/staff/bow/etc, go kill it. slash,slash,slash, end of game. Not terribly deep. And your character didn't do too much development apart from sticking a big ol' gem in his/her head and becoming demonic.

True, there have been plenty of crappy RPGs out there that had far worse plot than Diablo which still get the moniker of RPG slapped on them. These things happen.

But as far as whether or not real time/turn based combat systems have anything to do with whether or not a game is an RPG is somewhat silly. Combat is something of a neccesity in a good RPG, but how it's done doesn't really matter.

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