Standardized notation system:
To refer to ships quickly, here's what I generally use
Race/Class
Race:

• U - UESG

• P - Pfhor

• S - S'pht

• J - Jjaro

• B - Nebs

• R - Nar

Class:

• FT - Fighter

• CV - Corvette

• DE - Destroyer

• BT - Battleship

• DN - Dreadnought

• AC - Assault Carrier

• CS - Colony Ship

A Pfhor Corvette would be P/CV
A UESC Troopship would be U/AC

This serves the dual purpose of instructing others in the system, and allowing them to understand what I write.

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-=MoC 94:19=-
"Cheaters don't really win, and winners don't really cheat. Unless you're talking politics." -Durandal
"Fate protects fools, children, and ships named Enterprise." -Riker to Bridge Crew

Well, I got the UESG Bomber, Cruiser, and Frigate done. Cruisers are able to take out 5 fighters with difficulty, A human-piloted frigate can take out 2 cruisers with difficulty. Seems good so far...

And also, I've been using sounds from Marathon 1/2 for the weapons (well, except the Mass Driver Firing), very loud, annoying, sounds just like I want them

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-=MoC 94:19=-
"Cheaters don't really win, and winners don't really cheat. Unless you're talking politics." -Durandal
"Fate protects fools, children, and ships named Enterprise." -Riker to Bridge Crew
(This message has been edited by Pallas Athene (edited 11-27-2830).)

I staged a little battle between the Jjaro and the UESG. I gave myself (the UESG) 2 Battlecruisers and 2 Troopships, and gave them (the Jjaro) a Sterilizer.

I did win.

But I wouldn't brag about it - my only ship remaining at the end of the battle was a single bomber

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A connection (ansible?) **was left;
awaiting the next quiet (peace?); **
and though destroyed by the threes,
it will scream over the void one time. -Thoth

Try it on the Dreadnought, Pallas. I had to tone down the Sterilizer so it wouldn't be more cost-effective than the Dreadnought. If you don't get your arse kicked, I might have to crank some damage ratings.

Better yet, try 3 Removers. Or a Foldship.

BTW is it correct to interpret your post elsewhere that a Jjaro ship defeated 10 Canthran Gateships without losing more than 10% shields?

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

There needs to be a vidmaster's challenge series of levels where the player is simply sent to destroy huge numbers of insanely powerful enemies. I think it would be hilariously funny. Nothing complicated, just a level filled with wave after wave of powerful enemies, and the player alone to kill them all.

I also think that reference needs to be made to the hilarious weapon names in Marathon. "Spanker" Missile Launchers, Waste 'em combat shotguns, Toast flamethrower, marathon was serious tounge in cheek comedy. Look in the back of the manual! "Things that rock". Why if he hadn't sold his soul to Bill Gates, Jason Jones would be ashamed of any UESC ship whose name did not make the player smile gently at the hidden meaning.

Now that I've stopped telling you all how to do your job, I'll leave you to it.

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NEW NAME FOR THE DREADNOUGHT
The Hard-Boiled Egg
Why?
Because she cant be beaten!

Yes, that is correct, Darkk. I used cheap tactics, I admit, but I lost only 8-9% shields.

Pharris: You're not going to look at it too much. In the game, we've only got 8 letters, and that's not enought to put in the funny parts. The full name could have that kind of thing, though. But I'm not sure the Kinlaser really should get one (Magnum .44? What joke?)
NVG-8 Kinlaser (Not very good Kinetic Laser)
SNVG-8 Rapid Kinlaser (Still not very good)
FTRKL Laser Cutter (Fighterkill)
-Mass Driver?
SHKR Fusion Missile
-Wave Motion Cannon?
Launchbay - just that.

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A connection (ansible?) **was left;
awaiting the next quiet (peace?); **
and though destroyed by the threes,
it will scream over the void one time. -Thoth

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Originally posted by Pallas Athene:
Yes, that is correct, Darkk. I used cheap tactics, I admit, but I lost only 8-9% shields.

Duh. The Jjaro should be able to kick the arses of equal cash of Audemedons at least.

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Originally posted by Pallas Athene:
**Pharris: You're not going to look at it too much. In the game, we've only got 8 letters, and that's not enought to put in the funny parts. The full name could have that kind of thing, though. But I'm not sure the Kinlaser really should get one (Magnum .44? What joke?)
NVG-8 Kinlaser (Not very good Kinetic Laser)
SNVG-8 Rapid Kinlaser (Still not very good)
FTRKL Laser Cutter (Fighterkill)
-Mass Driver?
SHKR Fusion Missile
-Wave Motion Cannon?
Launchbay - just that.
**

The WMC is somewhat questionable, but these seem in character for Bungie:
DIDIDI Mass Driver
YHRFCKD Wave Motion Cannon

Do you think the Jjaro need a kick in the damage rating?

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

YRFKD.

Also, the Foldship doesn't seem to be folding ships. (Fleetwarp isn't warping fleets)

I suppose if it did my S'pht escort would have lost to it... but that's another story. I'm not sure what's wrong.

--Wait, I should ay this: I had to take out the ast 10% or so of shields in the bomber.
--I would have lost except the autotarget weapons are to slow at autotargeting. Maybe if
--You made them a little faster, I wouldn't be abe to take out the big ships in small ones.

Resource IDs (for reference) - I've moved Jjaro ships to these ranges, or will.

• Sprites
  300 New Energy Blob
  301-310 UESG
  311-320 Pfhor
  321-330 S'pht
  331-340 Nar
  341-350 Nebulons
  351-360 Jjaro
  375-380 UESG Weaps
  381-390 Pfhor Weaps
  391-400 S'pht Weaps
  401-410 Nar Weaps
  411-420 Nebulons Weaps
  421-430 Jjaro Weaps

• Sounds
  Haphazard
  200-299 Most sounds
  300-302 Sm, Md, Lg Explosions
  304 Teleport In
  305 Teleport Out
  306 GetWeap
  307 GetItem/Ammo

• Races
  15 UESG
  25 Pfhor
  35 S'pht
  45 Nar
  55 Nebulons
  65 Jjaro

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A connection (ansible?) **was left;
awaiting the next quiet (peace?); **
and though destroyed by the threes,
it will scream over the void one time. -Thoth

(This message has been edited by Pallas Athene (edited 03-06-2001).)

Maybe it's not warping because it's out of energy.
The warping DOES take a great deal of energy.
You might want to lower that some for me.

Feel free to mess with the speed of the projectiles.

Oh, how do the Jjaro Drone and its Carrier stand up against other AI Jjaro ships?
I might need to make them more worthwile.

Hmm, on second though, wait on that last part until you've added the transporters.

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

Well, I lowered energy to 600. Didn't work.

I increased range by a factor of 100.

That worked.

Needless to say I got my @$$ kicked, but it was fun...

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A connection (ansible?) **was left;
awaiting the next quiet (peace?); **
and though destroyed by the threes,
it will scream over the void one time. -Thoth

Y'know, soon we're going to actually need some beta testers, and the full implementation of an actual storyline, so:
(list=1)
()We might want to start signing up 3-5 testers, plus ourselves.
I might nominate Pyro, since he seems to be both interested and has a lot of practice testing plugs, and Mag for difficulty control.
()I, personally, would like to hear the summary of the story from Sargatanus at some point in the near future.
()We can actually get to work on NetLevels now, since they're not tied in to any storyline. I'll just send the planets out sometime soon, get the teleporters, configure an action for ColsShips, and we can start! Uh-oh...
()I was thinking it might be appropriate to have a station for each race? What are your thoughts?
(/list=a)

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What others can travel so far into so many universes yet remain so deeply rooted in their own?

1. I nominate Pharris and 8Lightnings.
2. Me too.
3. Kiss actually working on this goodbye ;).
4. The Jjaro aren't staying around very long, being elusive and fleeting. They don't need stations. The Nar planets are actually (according to something from Bungie I read awhile back) mostly buildings, and might qualify as stations. I'll think about a station. It might look a little too much like the ships, tho. I'll think about ways to differentiate the stations...

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

I nominate myself...I'm bored.;-)

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This Vid is a bit like my beast; extremely long, and best enjoyed with a mouthful of nuts.
-Ali G.

I've finally got a clue about the Nar.
Say hello to freaky and creative, but low tech.
The metaphors wouldn't fit in the long or short names, but they're fine for dev notes ;).
As soon as I figure out why some of the shots are invisable, I'll start balencing them.

Pallas - how effective should the Nar be? Equal cash Gaitori? Equal cash UNS?

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

Also, do we need the Jjaro Habitat ship?

Also also, will there be any need for special Jjaro/Nar ships?
I had some ideas for one designed to destroy Wr'kncacter (I know I spelled that wrong), but equally effective on mere mortals...

Oh, will we need a Wr'kncacter? Its weapons are gonna be EVIL if we do put one in. Although I've got very little clue what it would look like (black, nebulous evil thingy?).

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

I couldn't resist modelling that anti-Wr'kncacter Jjaro ship.
It didn't take too long, by my standards.
(url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/fadarkk/JjaroERS01.jpg")http://www.geocities.../JjaroERS01.jpg(/url) (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/fadarkk/JjaroERS02.jpg")http://www.geocities.../JjaroERS02.jpg(/url)

For some reason, the bottom of the first image has a little breakup, but the second looks perfect.

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

Nar have a 0.75 Advantage, meaning
Fighter: 1.5 resources, 150 Shields
Cruiser: 3.75 Resources, 375 Shields
Destroyer: 6 Resources, 600 Shields
Battleship: 11.25 Resources, 1125 Shields
Dreadnought: 18.75 Resources, 1875 Shields
ACarrier: 6 Resources, 600 Shields
ColShip: 4.5 Resources, 450 Shields
(If the weapons aren't too good, I suppose you could double the armor)

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What others can travel so far into so many universes yet remain so deeply rooted in their own?

For the Wr'kncacnter, we might try a dark grey thing nearly impossible to see - then we give it some sort of weapon that allows it to suck the life-force out of passing ships.

I'm not getting much work done this weekend, but I did make a M2 Multiplayer level.
( (url="http://"http://marathon.invasion.tripod.com/downloads/wetcompress.sit")marathon.invasion.tripod.com/downloads/wetcompress.sit(/url) )

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What others can travel so far into so many universes yet remain so deeply rooted in their own?

I'm pretty sure the Nar (all classes) are ready for Pallas's touch.
Ready to see if I'm right, Pallas?
Email has been prepped, awaiting launch clearance...

Oh, should I model and render the Nebulon weapon graphics, or do you have them over there?

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Formerly-Rampant Human-Coded AI

I suppose I'm ready. I still haven't gotten around to those teleporters, though... :frown:

I don't have any NebWeaps, but I had a couple pulses:

If you want Higher-quality versions of any of these, just tell me when you send the Nar.
I really need to get some work done, and I can't do it the upcoming weekend...
Darkk: Have you gotten spins done on any Pfhor ships or are they all too dark?

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What others can travel so far into so many universes yet remain so deeply rooted in their own?