Ambrosia Garden Archive
    • I can't say what caused it but I've had MC4a6 crash a couple times when I was closing a window. I think it was a s˙st window. Here's the crash report, from my Intel MacBook Pro, OS X 10.4.11:

      Date/Time:      2008-05-18 19:56:57.561 -0400
      OS Version:     10.4.11 (Build 8S2167)
      Report Version: 4
      
      Command: MissionComputer
      Path:    /Applications/EV Nova 1.0.10/Nova Utilities/MissionComputer/MissionComputer 4.0a6.app/Contents/MacOS/MissionComputer
      Parent:  WindowServer (58)
      
      Version: 4.0.0a6 (1.0.0a6)
      
      PID:    144
      Thread: 0
      
      Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
      Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000
      
      Thread 0 Crashed:
      0   libSystem.B.dylib           	0x9010f8f1 _simple_vdprintf + 3451
      1   libSystem.B.dylib           	0x901100ec _simple_dprintf + 34
      2   libSystem.B.dylib           	0x9010b852 malloc_printf + 81
      3   libSystem.B.dylib           	0x90005f91 szone_free + 2043
      4   com.apple.CoreGraphics      	0x90327e3e rgn_release + 203
      5   com.apple.CoreGraphics      	0x90327d6a CGSReleaseRegion + 72
      6   com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92e1f1fa HIShapeIntersect + 76
      7   com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92f97a0b HIView::RecursiveDrawComposited(__HIShape const*, unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*, unsigned char) + 525
      8   com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92f97cfa HIView::RecursiveDrawComposited(__HIShape const*, unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*, unsigned char) + 1276
      9   com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92f97cfa HIView::RecursiveDrawComposited(__HIShape const*, unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*, unsigned char) + 1276
      10  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92f984ed HIView::DrawComposited(short, OpaqueGrafPtr*, __HIShape const*, unsigned long, HIView*, CGContext*) + 601
      11  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92e20a01 HIView::Draw(short, OpaqueGrafPtr*, unsigned long) + 75
      12  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92e2093d HIView::Render(unsigned long, CGContext*) + 45
      13  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x930a8a13 FlushWindowObject(WindowData*, void**, unsigned char) + 581
      14  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92e125e5 FlushAllBuffers(__CFRunLoopObserver*, CFRunLoopActivity, void*) + 167
      15  com.apple.CoreFoundation    	0x9082dcd6 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 342
      16  com.apple.CoreFoundation    	0x9082cb5e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 289
      17  com.apple.CoreFoundation    	0x9082ca36 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
      18  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92df5878 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 285
      19  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92df4eb9 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 184
      20  com.apple.HIToolbox         	0x92f0b99c ReceiveNextEvent + 58
      21  rbframework.dylib           	0x00dc9d2a SetFocusPane(SubPane*) + 458
      22  rbframework.dylib           	0x00dca031 EventPump(unsigned char) + 435
      23  rbframework.dylib           	0x00dcaeed UpdateMouseCursor() + 547
      24  rbframework.dylib           	0x00dca405 IsAppShuttingDown() + 53
      25  rbframework.dylib           	0x00dca48a CallFunctionWithExceptionHandling(void (*)()) + 14
      26  rbframework.dylib           	0x00dcaaaa mainloop() + 118
      27  rbframework.dylib           	0x00d78b49 RuntimeRun + 47
      28  net.ev-nova.missioncomputer 	0x0002059a REALbasic._RuntimeRun + 20
      29  net.ev-nova.missioncomputer 	0x0000899b _Main + 73
      30  net.ev-nova.missioncomputer 	0x00001514 % main + 36
      31  net.ev-nova.missioncomputer 	0x009c24b2 _start + 116
      32  net.ev-nova.missioncomputer 	0x009c2408 start + 43
      
      Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
        eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x9010eb87  ecx: 0xffffffff  edx: 0x90162fa4
        edi: 0x00000000  esi: 0x00000000  ebp: 0xbfffeb78  esp: 0xbfffea30
         ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010246  eip: 0x9010f8f1   cs: 0x00000017
         ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
      
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    • @qaanol, on May 21 2008, 02:27 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      I can't say what caused it but I've had MC4a6 crash a couple times when I was closing a window. I think it was a s˙st window. Here's the crash report, from my Intel MacBook Pro, OS X 10.4.11:

      Crash reports aren't particularly informative, but I'll keep an eye on the UnmakeEditor routines. I doubt it has anything to do with s˙st resources in particular, but let me know if it seems to always occur with them.

    • I've gotten several crashes after closing a mission window and quickly clicking on another. Could be me being on the bad side of luck, but thought it would be worth mentioning.

    • @archon, on May 21 2008, 07:25 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      I've gotten several crashes after closing a mission window and quickly clicking on another.

      Yes, I think the code for opening and closing editor windows still needs a bit more work - it's always been a bit complicated since I implemented the new version that allows multiple resources open at once.

      With regard to the issues discussed recently, I just left MissionComputer running with a file open for several hours, and still couldn't make it crash, so it isn't a matter of how long it's been running, as some people have speculated. I think it probably does have to do with windows being created and dissolved in short succession more than anything else.

    • Yeah. That sounds about right.

    • The nebula bug does not appear to exist in 4.0a6.

      However, an addition to the wish list:
      I'm currently reorganizing a large portion of my galaxy. To aid in this, sometimes I have to get to a planet description to see what I said about where it is. From the star map, this requires five clicks including two long-ish waits for windows to open. It would be nice if there were some fast and easy way to access descs directly from the star map. Best not to over-complicate, of course; but perhaps some of the large Selection area could be retasked into showing spobs within the selected systems, and some additional options for manipulating them directly added. It would take careful design to get right, of course.

    • Now what would be cool would be a floating window showing the planets desc when you place your cursor over it.

      That seems unreasonable though.

      On a happy note, this version seems to crash a lot less then the previous version.

    • @lindley, on May 21 2008, 11:00 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      The nebula bug does not appear to exist in 4.0a6.

      Great - one less thing to worry about. The star map editor had got really clogged up in 3.x, and so one of the first things I did for 4.0 was to pull and re-write much of the code behind it.

      @lindley, on May 21 2008, 11:00 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      I'm currently reorganizing a large portion of my galaxy. To aid in this, sometimes I have to get to a planet description to see what I said about where it is. From the star map, this requires five clicks including two long-ish waits for windows to open. It would be nice if there were some fast and easy way to access descs directly from the star map. Best not to over-complicate, of course; but perhaps some of the large Selection area could be retasked into showing spobs within the selected systems, and some additional options for manipulating them directly added. It would take careful design to get right, of course.

      Hmm... the actual loading of the data wouldn't be too much work, but I'm having trouble thinking of a way to do it that wouldn't get in the way on occasions when you didn't need this kind of information.

    • Use one of the meta keys with a hover or click?

    • The trick would be how you handle multiple spobs in a syst. That seems like the main sticking point, interface-wise.

    • I wonder if that's what's causing my crashes, the issue with the editor windows. I do a LOT of opening and closing of those when I'm working on rEVisited, going back and forth between things and suchlike. I should test to see if I can just open one plug-in file and leave it there without doing anything and see if it stays running or crashes on its own.

    • what's rEVisited?

    • @captjosh, on May 23 2008, 02:28 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      I wonder if that's what's causing my crashes, the issue with the editor windows. I do a LOT of opening and closing of those when I'm working on rEVisited, going back and forth between things and suchlike. I should test to see if I can just open one plug-in file and leave it there without doing anything and see if it stays running or crashes on its own.

      Several people's comments do seem to suggest that crashes may be connected with opening and closing too many editors in short succession. I now have an idea for working around this - possibly even turning it into an advantage - so we'll see how things work with the next alpha.

    • I got a crash when trying to close a syst editor after viewing the System Attributes tab (but not changing anything there).

      I recall crashes in older versions associated with the System Attributes tab as well.....I suspect you've got a deep-seated bug in there somewhere.

      How easy would some form of (non-file-overwriting) periodic auto-save be to implement? It would be helpful.

      This post has been edited by Lindley : 23 May 2008 - 08:10 PM

    • DA, what are you writing MissionComputer in? Are you possibly calling a resource that you have just freed?

    • @david-arthur, on May 22 2008, 02:24 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      Hmm... the actual loading of the data wouldn't be too much work, but I'm having trouble thinking of a way to do it that wouldn't get in the way on occasions when you didn't need this kind of information.

      When the user clicks on a system in the starmap, show a drop-down of all the planets in it. Clicking on a planet brings up the planet info on the side somewhere.

    • @lindley, on May 23 2008, 09:08 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      I recall crashes in older versions associated with the System Attributes tab as well...

      This more or less has to be coincidental - there is literally no new code that starts executing when you change tabs.

      @lindley, on May 23 2008, 09:08 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      How easy would some form of (non-file-overwriting) periodic auto-save be to implement? It would be helpful.

      If you open up ~/Library/Preferences/MissionComputer, you'll find the programme's cache. If MissionComputer crashes, you'll probably find the most recent unsaved version of your file here. (There may, of course, be resources missing, if it crashes while writing.)

      @pipeline, on May 23 2008, 10:56 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      DA, what are you writing MissionComputer in? Are you possibly calling a resource that you have just freed?

      MissionComputer is still in REALbasic, but there's extensive reference-checking going on all over the place (in some cases the error handler is longer than the routine). If anything like this was happening, the result would be a MissionComputer error message saying what happened and where.

      Qaanol said:

      When the user clicks on a system in the starmap, show a drop-down of all the planets in it. Clicking on a planet brings up the planet info on the side somewhere.

      Wouldn't that be rather annoying if you didn't want to edit the planets?

    • That's why you use a meta key.

    • @david-arthur, on May 24 2008, 03:23 AM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      This more or less has to be coincidental - there is literally no new code that starts executing when you change tabs.

      Maybe....my programmer's instincts are cautious about coincidences that happen too often, though. I'll keep an eye on that tab and let you know if it continues to be a problem.

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      If you open up ~/Library/Preferences/MissionComputer, you'll find the programme's cache. If MissionComputer crashes, you'll probably find the most recent unsaved version of your file here. (There may, of course, be resources missing, if it crashes while writing.)

      Hey, thanks. That saves me some time and frustration. Now if only there were a diff utility of some kind to assure me that nothing's changed besides what I expect......

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      Wouldn't that be rather annoying if you didn't want to edit the planets?

      Not if you used the control-click (aka right-click) to do it. Just have three little buttons somewhere, normally greyed out, for "Edit spob,, Edit desc, Edit bar," which becomes active when you do this. Maybe also change the syst highlighted outline to something other than red or yellow (green?) to show the selected object is inside it.

    • @david-arthur, on May 24 2008, 01:23 PM, said in MissionComputer 4.0a6 - latest alpha now available:

      MissionComputer is still in REALbasic, but there's extensive reference-checking going on all over the place (in some cases the error handler is longer than the routine). If anything like this was happening, the result would be a MissionComputer error message saying what happened and where.

      Hmm. Not familiar with how REALBasic handles things like this.

      Any chance of a Cocoa port?