Warning: topics in the EVDC that are loosely or not plug development related tend to go off-topic (if there was one topic in the first place) faster than anywhere else, including the B&B.

Excuse me, but if I call a rose something else, I know it's still a rose. But does that mean that the French, Japanese, and Germans are wrong to call it what they call it? Of course not! They call it what they call it, and we call it what we call it.

Moreover, if I have a specific English accent, I am not speaking "wrong" English. It isn't standard, and it does cover a smaller base of people, but no one familiar with me is going to say that when I say "legos" that I don't mean "lego bricks." I mean, "Barbacue" means a zillion different things in the South, and to say that any of them are wrong is wrong... And though Belthazar has a good point, I'm still going to call them legos, just like some people call water fountians bubblers. Most of you guys probably do similair things depending on your region, but you'll never notice them until someone points them out to you...

On-topic: So, I have to get a Linux/Windows emulator then? Will MLCAD run on NT? 'Cause that's the only thing I have for an emulator, and it would be very nice to have something faster then MacBrickCAD.

Belthazar, on Dec 15 2004, 09:26 AM, said:

Lego has no plural, because lego is not a noun. It is an adjective. It's a lego brick, or a lego model, or a lego person, or a lego company. One cannot point to a lego brick and say "this is a lego" because it's not a lego, it's a lego brick.

It's sometimes used as an adjectival noun when referring to all lego things in general, or the lego company specifically, but since there can never be more than one of either of those, it still has no plural.
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I think it's like... dirt.
You can say "Here is a piece of dirt" or "Here are some pieces of dirt", but you'll usually just say "Here is some dirt". That is, if you're into informing people on the location of dirt.

Where can I find this MacBrickCAD program? It sounds interesting, but my search revealed nothing.

http://www.ldraw.org/ has everything I know of that is 3d lego modelling, including MacBrickCAD. Have fun!

Phyvo, on Dec 15 2004, 09:48 PM, said:

Excuse me, but if I call a rose something else, I know it's still a rose. But does that mean that the French, Japanese, and Germans are wrong to call it what they call it? Of course not! They call it what they call it, and we call it what we call it.

Moreover, if I have a specific English accent, I am not speaking "wrong" English. It isn't standard, and it does cover a smaller base of people, but no one familiar with me is going to say that when I say "legos" that I don't mean "lego bricks." I mean, "Barbacue" means a zillion different things in the South, and to say that any of them are wrong is wrong... And though Belthazar has a good point, I'm still going to call them legos, just like some people call water fountians bubblers. Most of you guys probably do similair things depending on your region, but you'll never notice them until someone points them out to you...View Post

We're not talking about differing languages, accents, colloquialisms or regional slang. It's the damn thing's name. My name is 'Paul' if I were go to where you live, I'd still expect to be called 'Paul'. Different languages have equivalent versions of the name Paul; Paulo, Pouro, Pablo... they are entirely valid in that language, but my name is still 'Paul' irrespective of the language or the context that frames that word. The fact is that formal nomenclature stays the same wherever you go, irrespective of local language, unless there's an agreed differing name for that thing. Unfortunately, Lego is 'Lego' the world over.

Ultimately - call it what you will, you're wrong.

Bah. I called it "legos" as a kid, call it "legos" now, and will call it "legos" in the future.

All the people I know not on the internet understand me when I say "legos," and make no grammatical fuss about it. Figures that it would be the internet, of all places, that I and other people start taking it too seriously...

Out of curiosity, what does pedantically arguing about whether or not the word "lego" has a plural have to do with EV Development?

This post has been edited by UncleTwitchy : 16 December 2004 - 01:26 PM

Uh... because it changes what one puts in the "lower case plural" field of the öutf resource. Yes... that must be it.

Anyway, Hudson, don't blame Phyvo - the poor guy was brainwashed as a kid, and it's very hard to break that kind of mental conditioning later on in life.

heh

"Brainwashed?" Excuse me, but being the inventor of the word "legos", I would hardly need to be brainwashed to use it all the time.

Of course, there is the possibility that I was brainwashed to believe that I invented the word, but that is, of course, an absolutely stupid idea.

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And what I just said IS EVN related... 'cause, you know, I might have been brainwashed to do EVN developing stuff. Or, as is the case, to think about it but never actually do anything...

This post has been edited by Phyvo : 16 December 2004 - 09:05 PM

Go to www.legos.com and learn the truth...

Ha!

/me does dancing

Heh. Legos. I never understood why anyone called it that.

Keldor Sarn, on Jan 2 2005, 02:57 AM, said:

Go to www.legos.com and learn the truth...
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Bah. What do big-name companies know anyways? Why would calling them "legos" make them plain? Why should I always use three syllables when I can use two?

Yeah, I might be stubborn. But, in this case, I frankly don't care.

Finally, just in case, no one has to answer those questions. As far as I am concerned, legos are legos, and I don't want you to waste time trying to convince me otherwise. This topic is unrelated to EV developement as it is, and I shall now contribute to it no more unless that somehow changes.

Phyvo, on Jan 2 2005, 03:54 PM, said:

Bah. What do big-name companies know anyways?View Post

Everything, particularly when they named the stuff.

And it's so relevant to EV/O/N development.

So...is it 'Novas' or 'Novae', when referring to the plural of 'EV Nova'? Or is it the much more mundane 'copies of EV Nova'?

Anyways, I used to make Lego spaceships when I was little out of a big box filled with parts from about twelve different kits. I suppose building Lego spaceships out of darker-colored bricks and posing them on white paper for digital photography might be an option. I'd have to try it out for myself, though...

UncleTwitchy, on Jan 2 2005, 06:43 PM, said:

And it's so relevant to EV/O/N development.
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Oh, just grow a sense of humour gland, for goodness sake.

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Hudson, on Jan 2 2005, 03:24 PM, said:

Oh, just grow a sense of humour gland, for goodness sake.
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Mine is too big, I personally blame the inadiquet quality of schools.

One of my friends is still a big Lego fan, and I still have a relatively good collection, myself. Mostly cool odd ones from things like space ship sets and from the Technic series, the Throwbots (the predecessors to Bionicle). I have a really old bucket of the basic bricks, but I don't like those, they don't have as much potential as the other ones, like the ones from Star Wars sets and crud like that.

My Lego is still bigger than yours.

I haven't played with lego for a while, but after reading Hudson's Lego topic on the Nova board a few weeks ago, and seeing that cute little lego viper, I was inspired and set about making a lego Fed carrier. Suffice to say, I ran out of bricks before I'd even finished the front of the flight deck. I then set about making a Viper big enough to fit a legoman in, but then got bored after making the cockpit and went off in a completely different direction. Still haven't finished whatever its supposed to be yet.