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(url="http://"http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/imaging_3d/mayapersonallearningedition.html")OS X Link(/url)
Go to the company's site (listed in the aforementioned link) for the free PC version.

Posted incase it was of interest to anyone, but I'm also assuming it could have EV related applications (ship graphics)?

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mrxak

Is this one of those watermark deals?

Andcarne

Yes, Maya Personal Learning Edition.

Dead useless because it stamps "MADE WITH PERSONAL LEARNING EDITION" all over it.

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Hell Toupee

Couldn't you render in a different app or something?

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Ithin

Nope, I don't believe so. Maya PLE is strictly for learning your way around it and the basics of all the features. So it's pretty useless for EV related graphics...

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mrxak

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Originally posted by Andcarne:
**Yes, Maya Personal Learning Edition.

Dead useless because it stamps "MADE WITH PERSONAL LEARNING EDITION" all over it.

**

Meh.

orcaloverbri9

Does it just have it in one spot? If so, you could always render it with extra space and cut it down.

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mrxak

I assume one can get educational discounts on the full version?

TheRedeemer

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Originally posted by orcaloverbri9:
**Does it just have it in one spot? If so, you could always render it with extra space and cut it down.

**

No such luck. It has the most In your face watermarks I have ever seen.

Check this out:
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Originally posted by TheRedeemer:
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what_is_the_matrix

Maya PLE is the biggest POS program that I've seen and used for a long time. I had to use it for over a half a year in an animation class that I took because Alias wouldn't give my school the licenses after the school had bought the software, and then (on the school's end) couldn't get the network working properly to use the licenses. Pain in the butt. All the work that I did at school I can't use because of the watermarks. Look around for my list of 3D programs. I'm not at home right now (coincidentally, I'm at SIGGRAPH right now), so I don't have my nifty text file to simply paste into the post.

Matrix

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Andcarne

The only use for it seems to be showing people how to use Maya. It can't really produce anything useful.

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(This message has been edited by Andcarne (edited 08-12-2004).)

SpacePirate

Hence the name, really. I've never liked maya myself, anyways.

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Lindley

The only 3D program I've been able to get to work for free is Cinema 4D CE R6. That's the version that came with some UK magazine.

The demo version which you can download from their site has no watermarks, but you can't save anything. So while it'll work great for the occasional simple graphic (in conjunction with Snapz Pro), don't expect that version to be very useful for more complex graphics like ships.

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Mantaray

There are free 3D modelers/animators out there. The only one I can think of at the top of my head is (url="http://"http://www.blender3d.org")Blender(/url), which is actually really cool. After you overcome the outrageous interface issues.

Maya is an amazing thing, but the PLE sort of totally takes away the whole point of using it.

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Azdara

Yah, there's not a lot of point to using PLE unless you're looking for a quick demo of some of the stuff that maya can do in the lead up to buying it... And even then you'd be better off finding someone who has the real version for a real demo... PLE is a bit crippled by the watermark issue.

Ah well... What can ya do?

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Lindley

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Originally posted by Mantaray:
**There are free 3D modelers/animators out there. The only one I can think of at the top of my head is Blender, which is actually really cool. After you overcome the outrageous interface issues.

Maya is an amazing thing, but the PLE sort of totally takes away the whole point of using it.

**

Oh yeah, Blender. Tried it. Couldn't make it do a thing. I think its fairly useless with 1-button mice.

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Guest_UE_Research & Development_*

Most 3D applications not expressly designed for Macintosh are unusable with any fewer than 2 buttons, if I recall correctly. Many work even better with a 3-button mouse, which doesn't exactly come standard with Macintosh or Windows computers, unless you count clickable mouse wheels, which are a clumsy workaround anyways :).

Other than that, I saw (and purchased a) books at a bookstore which are learning books for 3ds max 5 and 6, and many of them come with demo CDs. I don't know about 6, but my demo version of 5 allows me to use the full version for 30 days before disabling itself. An option to consider?

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Ithin

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Originally posted by mrxak:
**I assume one can get educational discounts on the full version?

**

Yes one can indeed

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what_is_the_matrix

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I got Lightwave there for $300-something. Maya 6.0 Complete, if I remember correctly, is around $600, but don't quote me on that. If you want things like more advanced dynamics then you want to go with Maya 6.0 Unlimited. I don't remember exactly what the difference is, but I'm fairly certain it's only in the area of dynamics. I think that 6.0 Unlimited is now available for OS X as well as PC (I guess that 5.0 Unlimited was PC only). I don't know about educational discounts (and it's really too early for this anyway), but Modo looks like it's going to be really good when it releases. It looks like it's a really good modeler, and it's entire interface is designed to be customized, so both Maya and Lightwave users alike will feel comfortable working in it. Not only that, but it supports Maya's .ma format and Lightwave's .lwo formats (Modo's Blendshapes/Endomorphs are amazing. I'd get it just for that), meaning that if you open a .ma file in Modo, you'll be saving back to a .ma, and if you open a .lwo, you'll save to a .lwo. It's really quite amazing. I would have bought it on the spot (when I saw it demoed), but it hasn't been released yet.

Matrix

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