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    • a plug-in request


      well. ive tried making plugins, andi suck, so i decided to ask if one of guys whose better at it then i am.

      anyways, i basically want a plug that will 1. mak sure that when you do the cunjo mission, u get the one where u become a cunjo hunter. 2. makes sure that if you do the wild geese stroyline, u dont go into any majoy storylines, just become a knight of the red branch or whatever that thingy is, 3. makes sure u arent offered any major storylines until u have finished the wild geese, sigma, bounty hunter(to the point where u dont enter any storylines), terraforming, UN shipping, Cunjo hunting, the probe launch, the rock band, and the temmin shard minor storylines. 4. allowes you to do allthe strings. and 5. makes sure u get the technology path of the polaris, thus granting the multi jump organs and stuff like that, and making sure u get the 2 auroran off shoots.

      i know that this might be really hard, but i would really appreciate it.

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      (This message has been edited by Septcanmat (edited 02-29-2004).)

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      Originally posted by Septcanmat:
      **well. ive tried making plugins, andi suck, so i decided to ask if one of guys whose better at it then i am.

      anyways, i basically want a plug that will 1. mak sure that when you do the cunjo mission, u get the one where u become a cunjo hunter. 2. makes sure that if you do the wild geese stroyline, u dont go into any majoy storylines, just become a knight of the red branch or whatever that thingy is, 3. makes sure u arent offered any major storylines until u have finished the wild geese, sigma, bounty hunter(to the point where u dont enter any storylines), terraforming, UN shipping, Cunjo hunting, the probe launch, the rock band, and the temmin shard minor storylines. 4. allowes you to do allthe strings. and 5. makes sure u get the technology path of the polaris, thus granting the multi jump organs and stuff like that, and making sure u get the 2 auroran off shoots.

      i know that this might be really hard, but i would really appreciate it.

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      1. Make a mission with the same ID as the non-hunter Cunjo thing and call it <null> (I think), and change the probability of the hunter one to what the one that you're deleting had.

      2. that's pretty cheap, if you ask me, but anyway: duplicate the missions with the random bit sets, and get rid of the random in favor of the one you want.

      3, 4, 5. Figure it out yourself, O selfish one. Also, it's easy to do #3 without a plugin: just don't accept Deliveries to Earth, etc. You can get into the Auroran storyline, by the way, by way of the bounty hunters, so don't worry about that one.

      Oh, and doing all this stuff would seem to me to be a good way to make the game boring. I mean, it makes you do only some things, without the chance that you might get to do something else (the non-tech branch of the Polaris string, for example, is still pretty cool, and the Wraiths won't attack you after you've done it. They even talk to you.)

      One last point: Who does the probe launch thing anyway? There are easier ways to get 50,000 credits.

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    • Well #2 and the first part of #5 will be found in the existing "All Good Branches" plug on the add-ons page.

      For the rest, you'd be best off asking on the EV Developer's Corner forum (where this sort of thing belongs). I'll just move this topic over there.

      iMove.

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    • ehh, i just typed out a long reply only to find that the thread dissapeared... so... copy/paste.
      ok, here is the deal froggy, if they aren't good at plugin making that certianly isn't a good first one to attempt.

      so here is my advice,

      1. look for a plugin called "all good branches" in the addons. it will make sure you get the favorable threads. (excluding the thunderforge, and a few others that require that you be in the right place at the right time)
      2. ask someone in the developers corner (nicely) to help you out by setting the require bits in the major storylines so that you have to do the other missions first. i won't garuntee they will do it, but if you are lucky someone will help you. I would do it myself, but i am tied up with college work right now.

      EDIT: AND i got beaten to it.... imagine that...

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      (This message has been edited by Cunjo (edited 02-29-2004).)

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      Originally posted by Cunjo:
      **ehh, i just typed out a long reply only to find that the thread dissapeared... so... copy/paste.
      ok, here is the deal froggy, if they aren't good at plugin making that certianly isn't a good first one to attempt.

      so here is my advice,

      1. look for a plugin called "all good branches" in the addons. it will make sure you get the favorable threads. (excluding the thunderforge, and a few others that require that you be in the right place at the right time)
      2. ask someone in the developers corner (nicely) to help you out by setting the require bits in the major storylines so that you have to do the other missions first. i won't garuntee they will do it, but if you are lucky someone will help you. I would do it myself, but i am tied up with college work right now.

      EDIT: AND i got beaten to it.... imagine that...

      **

      I believe I beat you to it because I got mine in just befor Slagblah moved it. Also, I did not know of the existence of the "All Good Branches" plugin.

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    • Yes, this would indeed be difficult. Not so much because it's hard to do as the damned way ATMOS made the game. I have never seen something so weird. Every time I look at the data files, I get more confused.

      However...

      If you want this done, you're probably going to have to do it yourself. USE THE NOVA BIBLE, and start learning. Sooner or later all that weird stuff will make sense, and you will be able to understand us as we speak Novadeveloperese. 🙂

      However, I have to agree with froggy. I don't know, but it sounds like a quick way to spoil the game. ALSO, the universe changes dramatically when you do a major storyline. What if you worked for the Federation, defeated the Aurorans, and decided to join the Aurorans?

      I've never played the default scenario, so I have no clue just how much they change.

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    • well, the thing is. about spoling the game. its not like i havent played the game at all before, ive done all the major storylines multiple times, and ive done all the other things. so for me, its like, well now all i ahve to do is take over the uiverse, wich could eb come quite boring after a while. so now i want to be able to make sure i get all those other missions without having to worry aboyut avoiding major storylines, and then theres still a rasisk of getting into major storylines. like th wild geese thing might lead me to a major storyline, wich i wouldnt want to do yet. so make sure it doesnt. theres one of the things done also. but then, the major storylines only go on for so long. after a while, theyre done, and u dont have as much done. well with what i asked for, you would then be able to look forward for the next storyline.

      oh, and about how the universe changes, ive come up with an idea, after u leave s7evyn or whatever that system is called. the universe goes back to how it was in the beggining, and then after the last storyline. it stays.

      and also, ive tried making numerous plugins, always eding up with confusion. ive read the bible and stuff, and it was too complex allready. i am illiierate with stuff like making plugins.

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      Originally posted by Septcanmat:
      **well, the thing is. about spoling the game. its not like i havent played the game at all before, ive done all the major storylines multiple times, and ive done all the other things. so for me, its like, well now all i ahve to do is take over the uiverse, wich could eb come quite boring after a while. so now i want to be able to make sure i get all those other missions without having to worry aboyut avoiding major storylines, and then theres still a rasisk of getting into major storylines. like th wild geese thing might lead me to a major storyline, wich i wouldnt want to do yet. so make sure it doesnt. theres one of the things done also. but then, the major storylines only go on for so long. after a while, theyre done, and u dont have as much done. well with what i asked for, you would then be able to look forward for the next storyline.

      oh, and about how the universe changes, ive come up with an idea, after u leave s7evyn or whatever that system is called. the universe goes back to how it was in the beggining, and then after the last storyline. it stays.

      and also, ive tried making numerous plugins, always eding up with confusion. ive read the bible and stuff, and it was too complex allready. i am illiierate with stuff like making plugins.

      **

      You see, the problem with makng a reset plugin that works correctly is that there are tons of bits, and some might overlap, which makes it really annoying to sort out. Also, making the universe go back to the beginning may not work, because there might be some bits that both change a system and give you access to more ships. In that case, resetting the system means relinquishing the ships.

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    • only relinqushing ACCESS to the ships, if you already have a ship it won't dissapear.

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