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    • Dilemma


      Fatal Alliance. Possibly a very select few of you may still remember it from a long time ago, the EVO-universe 'quasi-TC'. I originally intended it as a way to practice writing and planning for the 'real' Total Conversion I had in my mind back then- the TC I am now working on titled Retribution. Regarding Retribution: I am satisfied with the way the story is going, I am more than pleased with how Azdara's graphics are turning out, and progress is ahead of schedule. However, that leaves me with a problem that I don't want to ignore any further...

      I have at least 300 pages of typed missions (about 150 or so missions worth, if I remember correctly) mission texts for Fatal Alliance, not including a lot of other background information (outlines, world descriptions, notes, etc), sitting upon a bunch of backup CD-Rs. I wanted to come to a decision as to these documents. Here are my options (at least ones I thought up of, feel free to suggest more).

      1. Completely abandon Fatal Alliance. If nobody shows any interest, I'll just leave the files to sit in oblivion or trash them. Obviously, I don't want to take this route.

      2. If anyone is interested, give the files to them so they can work on this. I don't know if anyone would be interested however; most people want only to work on their own projects, and there could be issues with differing writing styles, etc.

      3. Work on this after Retribution and other commitments are completed. There are a group of people who are doing graphics remakes for EVO; I could possibly approach one of them and ask for permission to use their graphics. I don't know if anyone is still interested, though, and I don't know if I want to restart this or not.

      4. Give the files up to the open domain. I don't want to do this either if possible, as it would be the deathblow to the project.

      5. Code and release what I have right now as an 'incomplete' TC with hanging threads, and leave them open for future people to add on if they want. Don't know how feasible this would be, or whether anyone would want to play a TC with strings that abruptly ended halfway through.

      Ideas? Suggestions? Anyone...? Post them here.

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    • I'd say option 3 🙂 I've got a few interesting ideas regarding NOVA:Override which I might eventually get around to... You would be welcome to use the graphics from that if you like. Im not sure whether I will get this done but I'll at least get a few governments done 😛 I have pretty much finished the Freight Courier (only got to finish adding the weapons, and finish texturing). The Shuttle will be finished shortly after that (its not a big task 😛 ).

      Anyway I digress 😄 Option 3! Override was always my favorite of the trilogy, and would love to see it have another expansion!

      ewan

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    • Option 3! I have seen some of your writings! They are very good! Besides, I am patient when it comes to a rarely-talked about TC.

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    • I'd go with 3. However, if later on you find that you cannot complete them, go with 4 or 5. I'd much rather see a work completed by the original author, rather than someone else appending their own thoughts to your vision, if it can be helped. That usually creates screwy results...

      ~ SpacePirate

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    • Option 3 sounds the best. I don't see why you would have to give your project over to someone else when it can wait.

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    • Definately 3. I still have some mission texts sitting on my computer, and I'd hate to see such good writing go to waste. 🙂

      Besides, imagine how popular you'd be if you had a TC and quasi-TC! 🙂 Not as popular as having two TCs, but hey, ya can't win 'em all. 🙂

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    • UE, if you decide to go for option 2 and give it over to someone else, I'd love to be the one that finishes it. The mission texts I saw were stunning, and I really want to see this plugin done. I'm confident that I can pretty much match your writing style for the remaining missions too.

      Let me know if you're interested.

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      (This message has been edited by Mazca (edited 02-02-2004).)

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      Originally posted by orcaloverbri9:
      **Definately 3. I still have some mission texts sitting on my computer, and I'd hate to see such good writing go to waste.:)

      Besides, imagine how popular you'd be if you had a TC and quasi-TC! 🙂 Not as popular as having two TCs, but hey, ya can't win 'em all. 🙂

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      Me looks at UER&D;, and winks. No, I don't think we have at all thought about making two TC's, have we? That would be ludicrous. By the way, that last batch of concept art was killer stuff man. Should look good once I translate it, and figure out how the hell I'm gonna do all the complicated splines and stuff.

      Hmmm...

      ~A~

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      Originally posted by Azdara:
      No, I don't think we have at all thought about making two TC's, have we? That would be ludicrous.

      Tell that to Martin Turner. 🙂

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      No, I don't think we have at all thought about making two TC's, have we? That would be ludicrous.

      Oh, Azdara, you're right. Two TCs would indeed be ludicrous...I don't know where the idea could have originated. Two!??? Completely outrageous and o-u-t o-f t-h-e q-u-e-s-t-i-o-n ;). Oh well, in this case literalism is our friend.

      You still getting Lightwave? I think...I think...I have (almost) enough money for Poser! But then, of course, I could get Bryce! I don't know! If you want views of the latest art from different perspectives, feel free to ask!

      I think that after I finish Retribution, in the interim space after Retribution...I'll take another swing at Fatal Alliance. If not, I'll probably ask Mazca to help finish it. I'll probably ask him to help even if I continue.

      If anyone is interested, they can dig up the old Fatal Alliance topic on the EVO board and take a look.

      EDIT: Took out a too-obvious reference to particular intentions...

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      (This message has been edited by UE_Research & Development (edited 02-02-2004).)

      (This message has been edited by UE_Research & Development (edited 02-02-2004).)

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      Originally posted by UE_Research & Development:
      **I think that after I finish Retribution, in the interim space after Retribution...I'll take another swing at Fatal Alliance. If not, I'll probably ask Mazca to help finish it. I'll probably ask him to help even if I continue.
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      Good idea, I'd say. I'm sure Fatal Alliance would be best if you finished it yourself, but I'm eager to finish it if you aren't. I'm happy to help in any way I can with the production of it if and when you finish Retribution. 🙂

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    • UER&D;: I think I have about $200 australian, so I'm about a third of the way to saving up enough for the student version. Plus I figure I can get some more money soon, so maybe it won't be too long eh? We can only hope, because Lightwave has easy (and great) UV mapping capabilities, which would make texturing dead easy. Right now it's a pain in the ass to be honest.

      Man, I so want lightwave. Send me money guys. : )

      ~A~

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