Haven't posted since the EVO days but what the hey...

Having browsed my way through the various EVN plugs available I have yet to find one that properly fits in with my idea of Novaesque. Taking it upon myself to rectify this I've written up a few dësc's and done some minor graphics work in hope of creating something substantial enought to be called a plug. I'm not trying to create a "Clavius and Beyond" or announcing another TC destined to failure, I'm merely looking for 2 or 3 people to help make a plug that could be described as a natural enhancement of the original game rather than a plug. An plug which could have nearly been created by ATMOS/Ambroisa as an add-on.

I'm looking for:

• Someone who can create Nova-Esque graphics
• A sound man (?)
• Someone who, with all the necessary PICTS and text files can get down and dirty with NovaTools to create an actual plug.

Anyone mad enough to volunteer? Interested in finding out more? Drop me a line at paulos@gofree.indigo.ie

So basically, you aren't going to do anything apart from write the text files?

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Not at all. I can photoshop and ResEdit with the best of them but I'd rather have people who are more skilled than I in my "weak" areas to lend a helping hand.
I've given a lot of thought to this plug and have about 2mb of mission texts, plot outlines, various dëscs and sketches/mocked graphics for this plug. I'm looking to make the best possible contribution to a plug I can and if that means I end up working solely on dëscs so be it, but it's not my primary aim.

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It would help if you would tell us what your Plug-Idea is. Whether we help you hinges on what your plot idea is.

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Absolutely, it all depends on the plot. We get these on a weekly basis, and frankly to have anyone do graphics that will fit with nova you're going to have to get a top notch graphics guy, and frankly they're all taken with other projects... Or I think they are anyway. But even if they aren't, this won't convince anyone, saying "I have lots of text files written" simply puts people off, they want tangible plug work done. For example, UER&D; (Who convinced me to do his graphics) only did so by his reputation as a good plot writer, and nearly complete quasi TC for EVO... The kind of dedication required to make a TC, or even an expander plug is rare. Everyone thinks they can do it, but two months later they're bored and playing quake or something instead.

Seriously, get work done on it yourself, serious hard work like coding it all together, then get a graphics guy, until you get something done (you have to novatools it yourself, no-one will agree to put it all in for you I'm fairly sure) that is more substantial than an idea and some text files (sorry man, but that's pretty flimsy footing), you should keep it under the covers. Publicity is the key to vapourware, avoiding it is a must.

/nasty comments that had to be made.

Sorry man, that's just the way it is. Good luck with it all though...

~A~

EDIT: Just re-read the topics, you say you are good at photoshop... someone said they needed texturing help in a thread near this one. Maybe some good plug experience would be to help them out with texturing ships.
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(This message has been edited by Azdara (edited 10-13-2003).)

I've been around exactly as long as you Azdara (Although I haven't been the most active poster). I know exactly exactly how plugs succeed and how they fail, I was really just interested in who would respond. I have a 968k fully working plug which, in my opinion, fits in really well with the original Nova. In a couple of days I'll post something for d/l to show you my standard of work and maybe then I'll get some interest.

The basic premise of the plug is the Nova universe ten years on. I aim to have:

• 4 New independent ships
• 1 New rebel ship, 1 modified
• 2 New confed ships, one a merchant, one a corvette class
• Bulk out the Wild Geese storyline and smooth out some of the more glaring clichés.
• 22 New "special" missions (Can't let too much go at the moment)
• Cut into the middle of the Federation storyline and add an extra ten missions, with an alternative recruitment option.
• Give the smaller governments a more active role in the game
• Resurrect LPAD station and add storyline missions etc...
• Secret Federation weapons base and storyline for Fed's and Rebellion post-Sy7en.
• A few new missions for Olaf Greyshoulders, 1 New ship, 2 new outfits, 1 weapon
• Pirate/Association storyline (? - In planning stages)
• Comara Station, a few missions, testing facility, përs', lotsa Vipers

And some more ideas. Of course some will be cut and more will be added but that's the basic premise behind the Storyline. At the moment I'm curently trying to track down Lomax to ask permission for his Sigma courier from the now defunct EVN:E project.

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I'd say, create the plug. Actually make it. Even if you're on a PC. What I mean by this is write out everything mission by mission; the Mission Offer text, the brief text, the quick text, the completion text, etc, for each mission. If you're on a Mac make the plug with all the missions. They don't need to actually do anything but they should all have the appropriate descs. Basically you should be left with a plug (or many pages of text, seperated clearly by desc) that just has to be "programmed" correctly and given graphics. I'd say if you got all this done so that others only had to sequence missions properly and set up govts, etc you'd have much better luck finding someone willing to help.

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(This message has been edited by Kame (edited 10-13-2003).)

I have people willing to help and I have a 1.1mb plug coded with sample missions, ships with new graphics, flëts, düdes, përs, cröns... you name it. My main worry now is doing the twiddly bits with ncb's but I'm sure I'll be fine. Check out an "in-progress" screenshot at:
(url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/irishapplefritter/nova.gif")http://www.geocities...ritter/nova.gif(/url) (Cut and paste URL)

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Well, I like to conceder myself a fair graphics artist, and I would be willing to help; the project seems small enough in scope that it would fit in with my relatively full schedule. If you are interested, you can check out some of my old stuff on the image gallery, buried far in the past. I offer this because it seems that you are making a fair attempt at the plug-in, and it seems that it will have a good chance of success. Additionally, it has been a while since I have done any space craft design, and it would be nice to do a small project.
Joe

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(This message has been edited by jdh545 (edited 10-13-2003).)

Wham, appearances are decieving. If we're getting picky, I was actually here four and a half months before you, in februrary, I just re-joined as Azdara, previously I was Adzara (note the spelling) since I got sick of people telling me I spelt it wrongly. But it doesn't matter...

(/pickiness)

I'm glad to hear it's going to work out for you, hopefully. Just seriously, don't get your hopes too high, or if you do, make sure everyone who works with you is dedicated to the project...

I hope it gets done, good luck!

~A~

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(pickiness)
Actually I've been around since the days of the EV "bar" (if anyone can remember) and I've gone under several alter-egos before I registered as Wham!Man
(/pickiness)

On a lighter note the plug currently has

• 2 new ships with all their new graphics
• One stock fighter whose role has been changed along with dëscs and stats
• One new spob and the reopening of LPAD
• 2 new missions for the federation
• 1 new weapon - The quad light cannon. The outfit pic was in the "in-progress" screenshot.
• A couple of flëts, düdes and përs including the infamous Rebellion "Wolfpacks"

and finally

• Musical interludes after one of the missions

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Sounds very cool, if your interested I am pretty good with a brush in photoshop.
I'm okay at doing outfits in Mission computer and have programmed a few so far for my Sol Research Lab's plug, I'm willing to help if you need someone who can use photoshop
Here are some example of stuff I have been working on for SRL:

There is also an image of me working in Nova Tools and Mission Computer Here: (url="http://"http://tru7h.jonpearse.net/images/working.jpg")http://tru7h.jonpear...ges/working.jpg(/url)

I have plenty of free time on the weekends now and will be a dedicated worker, so if you want my services you can have them.
Cheers, Si

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I just saw this, you just transposed the AP in LAPD right?

(LAPD= Los Angles Police Department (For those who didnt know))

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No, not LAPD. LPAD is the propulsion research station bought out by Pyrogenisis and left derelict - think Astrodyne outpost in EVC.

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N.B.

• dësc is old one
• mďsns in separate plug
• Not real name of plug
• Target colours correspond to government

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(EDIT) Typo

(This message has been edited by Wham!Man (edited 10-19-2003).)

You have a bad link.

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Originally posted by Bad Link:
You have a bad link.

That's Geocities for you.

You need to copy and paste the URL into your browser.

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Originally posted by Bad Link:
You have a bad link.

Read his earlier post. Copy and paste the URL.

He's using Geocities, which does not allow direct linking to images.

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