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Originally posted by ArcAngel Counterstrike:
**Info you can use for your Bestiary.
Demonic Kobold (mission related) 30hp +30xp Axe
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I called them Damned Kobolds because that was the adjective that was used to describe them in the mission text and in the conversation that started the mission :).
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luck is beating the odds, bad luck is when they are the odds of having something bad happen to you.
Ok... here's some info:
Dark Spirits: HP: 135; XP: 1500
Ice Elemental: XP: 1000
Archmage: XP: 500
You also might want to add on that you can only gain the 10 hp at the Pink Termite resort once... Some people (like myself :redface: ) might try to repeat the process several times...
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From Compendium Bestiary
DeathKnight: The unholy crusader of the undead legions. The DeathKnight carries a fiery red sword and isn't afraid to use it. Since he is an undead normal armor will not protect you against his advances. Stock up on undead protection else be loaded with healing potions.
This is missing a comma in the third sentence. It needs to go after the word undead. Just wanted to help 
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luck is beating the odds, bad luck is when they are the odds of having something bad happen to you.
Freakazoid & SuperNova>
Thanks. I'll include your info and corrections in the next version that I upload. I have a bunch of new information to format and stick into the document, plus work just got more intense, so will be a few days probably before I upload another version. But I wanted to drop a quick note saying thank you for the input.
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Originally posted by Cafall:
**The sprite pics for all the NPCs in PoG are on the CGE CD.
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I don't think so... I can't find The Guardian's picture, or The Order of the Crystal's picture and I would like to use those...
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Originally posted by Mr. Somebody:
**I don't think so... I can't find The Guardian's picture, or The Order of the Crystal's picture and I would like to use those...
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Those pictures are not on the CD for exporting to other games. If you would like to use them in a POG plug-in however, they are available. You will need to create a new NPC and then when you select a picture for it you can browse through the npc tile sets and the guardian is listed(as is the sea giant). You can select their pictures and use them with your npc for a POG plug-in. If you want to use their pictures for a stand-alone game then you will need to again create the npc, and then take screen shots for every movement sprite and then edit them to put them together -- something I personally do not think is worth the time to do(ie, if you can do that, you should be able to draw your own).
The Order of the Crystal I believe you are referring to the temple picture? That is also in the plug-in infos tile sets. I believe it is under one of the "Quests" tile sections. I can look later today and get back to you on that. And again I don't think it is on the cd, it is only available for a plug-in add-on.
I asked Dee(designer of CGE and POG) why this was, and he said that the reason behind this is that Beenox wanted some games to have originality. POG wouldn't be original if every game sported the same big baddies such as the guardian and sea giant. So they deliberately left them off the cd so you can't easily export them to other games. But when you design a plug-in all those pics of the npcs and tiles are saved into a data file and are useable for within the plug-in. So you can create more guardians if you wish, or more temples from the Order of the Crystal, etc.
Hope that helps clarify.
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"Good...Bad...I'm the one with the gun. Kaboom!"
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Newest update uploaded. Next update will include the skeleton for the trinity plug-in as well as some trinity information. Also hopefully more npc information(XP and hps) will be added as well.
The main addition to this update was the revision of all the npc descriptions. I received a file of "npc information" from Beenox to revise and include in the compendium, which I have done. I would highly recommend aspiring plug-in designers to read through the bestiary as it could give you a lot of ideas for plot lines and stories. Some names, histories, origins, etc in it.
I've also put some other updates in it. The (albeit long) list from my additions page record the following changes to this update:
Added:
To NPC list:
Ghoul
Ghoul - Master
Kobold
Kobold - Demonic
Lilith
Manticore
Medusa
Mindhunter
Minotaur
Minotaur - White
Molespider
Mushooze
Ookwasp
Ookwasp - Killers
Rock Imp
Rocky Spider
Semenon
Semenon - Master
Stone Giant
Termite - White
Termite - Red
Thivuk
Troll
Wyrm
Zombie
Zombie - Revenant
Links:
To thieves bestiary entries from learning tree quest to get the book
To killer ookwasp bestiary section from learning tree quest to build the bridge
To manticore bestiary section from learning tree quest for milla'kara shield
To dark spirit bestiary from tome of elixirs quest
To archmage bestiary from sea goddess quest
To guardian bestiary from confront guardian quest
To goblin bestiary from rescue someone in need quest
To deathknight bestiary from rescuing the general quest
To cyclops bestiary from warning dernath garrison quests
To demonic kobold bestiary from clearing the road quests
To boulder and jellytor bestiaries from finding the harp quest
To dark fairy bestiary from dark fairy quests
To cyclops bestiary from cyclops eye quests
To medusa bestiary from divine lamp misc section
To cyclops bestiary from diadem of stone misc section
To deathknight bestiary from great war axe of misery misc section
To molespider and mindhunter bestiaries from elven bow of destruction
To death knight bestiary from full elven plate misc section
To lilith bestiary from lilith shield misc section
To cyclops bestiary from ring of the titan misc section
To sea giant bestiary from ring of the gods misc section
To minotaur bestiary from minotaur scythe misc section
To forest ogre in bestiary section from ogre's axe misc section
To rogue mage and cyclops bestiaries from dagger of ferret misc section
To sea giant bestiary from azarath bestiary section
To rock imp bestiary from boulder bestiary section
To earth elemental bestiary from ice elemental bestiary section
To ogre's axe in misc section from forest ogre in bestiary section
To rock imp bestiary from ice imp in bestiary section
To minotaur scythe in misc section from minotaur in bestiary section
To forest ogre bestiary from ookwasp in bestiary section
To termite bestiary from Opening Termite Tunnels secret
Changed: Changed experience for dark spirit
Changed experience for ice elemental
Changed experience for archmage
Fixed: Added "can only be used once" warning to the Pink Termite secret
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"Good...Bad...I'm the one with the gun. Kaboom!"
-- Ash, Army of Darkness
Wow- several of the additions to the Bestiary I dont even recognize(for example the "master" versions)...and I make a point of exploring and killing all the beasts on each map section. Are these even in PoG or Trinity? Or were they added for plug designers?If they are in PoG...where?
MickyBIs
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Oh, its just that they're terribly comfortable, I think that everybody will be wearing them in the future.
MickyBIs: I don't recall. I am fairly sure the master ghouls are in the game somewhere. I vaguely remember seeing them at some point. Master semenons are the same way. I think they are in the game but I don't recall vividly. White minotaurs are the only npc in the least that I am fairly sure are not anywhere in the standard game of POG. I could be wrong on this though. 
New update uploaded, contains basic information on the Trinity plug-in. I will put in additional information(breakdown of all the spells and alchemy recipes) as well as new shops and info on the travelling salesmen next.
Also anyone who has completed the Sapphire plug-in and wishes to write up some info to be included into the compendium, I would appreciate it(since I haven't had the time to try it yet). Or if the author would like to do it that would be extra fine. Drop me an email(address is in the email button above) if anyone is interested in this.
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Originally posted by Stark Bledfast:
White minotaurs are the only npc in the least that I am fairly sure are not anywhere in the standard game of POG. I could be wrong on this though.:)
There is only one white minotaur and it can be found with Trinity installed (there isn't any in the standard game). The ranger can also shapeshift in white minotaur.
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Originally posted by Stark Bledfast:
**Also anyone who has completed the Sapphire plug-in and wishes to write up some info to be included into the compendium, I would appreciate it(since I haven't had the time to try it yet). Or if the author would like to do it that would be extra fine. Drop me an email(address is in the email button above) if anyone is interested in this.
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well, this is all I have
Sapphire plug:
Blue Dragon 90hp 1500xp Bite
Wildspider 115hp 680xp Bite
I slowly killed both several times over, I think these are right
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Another version uploaded. This one contains more plug-in information on the Conjuror class for Trinity, and for the Sapphire plug-in.
Btw, all information for both of those additions was gleaned 100% from this board. I have not played either the conjuror nor the sapphire plug-in yet, so I can not verify the accuracy of the information I have uploaded.
For those who have played the conjuror or have the sapphire plug-in and played it, can you verify the information listed? And if you have played Sapphire I would especially like to "fill in the blanks," so to speak. The information is not complete.
Thanks.
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"Good...Bad...I'm the one with the gun. Kaboom!"
-- Ash, Army of Darkness
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Originally posted by Stark Bledfast:
**For those who have played the conjuror or have the sapphire plug-in and played it, can you verify the information listed? And if you have played Sapphire I would especially like to "fill in the blanks," so to speak. The information is not complete.
Thanks.
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A better way is to ask the author of a plug-in for information on it.
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Originally posted by ArcAngel Counterstrike:
**with the find all tunnels secret:
" what the tunnels are and what the used to be used for"
what the tunnels are and what they had been used for
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Am very new to the game. In fact still anxiously awaiting an email with my registration # in it. But, am wondering about the tunnels myself. I have found two(one in Fantrima, and one at the learning tree) and not sure what to do with them.
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Originally posted by dakota:
Am very new to the game. In fact still anxiously awaiting an email with my registration # in it. But, am wondering about the tunnels myself. I have found two(one in Fantrima, and one at the learning tree) and not sure what to do with them.
Hello Dakota, glad to hear you found POG and have registered it. It is always good to have new people around.
Alright, the tunnels are nothing more than a quick way to move around the kingdom of Garendall. What you need to do is find a tunnel entrance and then enter it. Doing this will clear any obstructions within it and make it useable. When you enter a tunnel entrance you will be shown a tunnel map with little circular "knobs" on the map. If a knob has a name above it(the one by Fantrima should say "Fantrima") then you can click on the knob and instantly be transported there. But only tunnels that you have found and entered at least once will show up on that map, and hence be useable. Make sense?
And I should definitely throw this information onto the walkthrough/compendium. Dunno how I missed that... heh.
Thanks. Let me know if the above wasn't clear enough and I'll try to explain it better.
(edit) Fixed bad UBB code. Bad code, bad code! (/edit)
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Originally posted by Stark Bledfast:
**Another version uploaded. - - - - I would especially like to "fill in the blanks," so to speak. The information is not complete.
Thanks.
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I know you were referring to plug-ins, but I can fill some gaps in the standard PoG.
Bestiary: Azarath - Hps = 120, Cyclops - Hps = 100, Earth Elemental - Hps = 100, Ghoul - Hps = 60 XP = 90, Guardian - Hps = 2500 XP = 5000 (also drops 2000 gold, but as you know, the money and experience points are useless now), Ice Elemental - Hps = 125, Lilith - Hps = 75 XP = 1000, Bonus Lilith (see note below) - Hps = 75 XP = 600, Medusa - Hps = 100 XP = 800, Mindhunter - Hps = 70 XP = 650 (not 600 as listed), Minotaur - Hps = 135 XP = 1500, Rogue Archmage - Hps = 55, Blue Spider (see note below) - Hps = 65 XP = 95, Semenon - Hps = 40 XP = 45, Stone Giant - Hps = 80 XP = 120. I cannot get the Hps for the Dark Fairy unless I start a new game so that will have to wait.
I cannot find the following beasts in the standard version of PoG. If anyone can tell me where to look, I'll be happy to obtain their stats: Ghoul - Master, Ice Imp, Minotaur - White, & Semenon - Master.
In the SE sector of Reef's Is. the Liliths have a rock shrine. If you enter this enclosure and poke around, six bonus Liliths come to get you. These Liliths are not on the screen before you invade their sacred territory. In fact, their existence does not preclude using Gen. Decimus' tent (as undetected creatures would on other screens) until their "tripwire" is snagged. Perhaps this little occurance deserves a spot in the "Secrets of POG" section.
Spider confusion: Mayor Vortek has posted a sign by the cave 1 N of Fantrima which identifies the blue spiders therein as "Mole Spiders." You have the blue ones labeled "Rocky Spiders." I don't recall seeing any red spiders underground. It makes sense to me if the red guys are Rocky Spiders and the blue ones are Mole Spiders. A minor point, perhaps, but I think the labels are reversed.
One final note. I would love to go back and fight that awful lady in the Great Swamp crypt again to find out her stats because she was a real bitch! She must have killed me ten times before I had the strength or stamina to prevail.
PS: I just found this in earlier notes - Great Swamp lady is Nehria - Hps = ? XP = 1000.
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Originally posted by Rubber Ducky:
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Originally posted by Stark Bledfast:
**Another version uploaded. - - - - I would especially like to "fill in the blanks," so to speak. The information is not complete.
Thanks.
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I know you were referring to plug-ins, but I can fill some gaps in the standard PoG.
Bestiary: Azarath - Hps = 120, Cyclops - Hps = 100, Earth Elemental - Hps = 100, Ghoul - Hps = 60 XP = 90, Guardian - Hps = 2500 XP = 5000 (also drops 2000 gold, but as you know, the money and experience points are useless now), Ice Elemental - Hps = 125, Lilith - Hps = 75 XP = 1000, Bonus Lilith (see note below) - Hps = 75 XP = 600, Medusa - Hps = 100 XP = 800, Mindhunter - Hps = 70 XP = 650 (not 600 as listed), Minotaur - Hps = 135 XP = 1500, Rogue Archmage - Hps = 55, Blue Spider (see note below) - Hps = 65 XP = 95, Semenon - Hps = 40 XP = 45, Stone Giant - Hps = 80 XP = 120. I cannot get the Hps for the Dark Fairy unless I start a new game so that will have to wait.
I cannot find the following beasts in the standard version of PoG. If anyone can tell me where to look, I'll be happy to obtain their stats: Ghoul - Master, Ice Imp, Minotaur - White, & Semenon - Master.
In the SE sector of Reef's Is. the Liliths have a rock shrine. If you enter this enclosure and poke around, six bonus Liliths come to get you. These Liliths are not on the screen before you invade their sacred territory. In fact, their existence does not preclude using Gen. Decimus' tent (as undetected creatures would on other screens) until their "tripwire" is snagged. Perhaps this little occurance deserves a spot in the "Secrets of POG" section.
Spider confusion: Mayor Vortek has posted a sign by the cave 1 N of Fantrima which identifies the blue spiders therein as "Mole Spiders." You have the blue ones labeled "Rocky Spiders." I don't recall seeing any red spiders underground. It makes sense to me if the red guys are Rocky Spiders and the blue ones are Mole Spiders. A minor point, perhaps, but I think the labels are reversed.
One final note. I would love to go back and fight that awful lady in the Great Swamp crypt again to find out her stats because she was a real bitch! She must have killed me ten times before I had the strength or stamina to prevail.
PS: I just found this in earlier notes - Great Swamp lady is Nehria - Hps = ? XP = 1000.
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Right On, RD
Im sure Stark will be greatful for the research, even if it means more work.
I had forgot the areas you mentioned, goes to show how vast PoG is.
Keep up the good work
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Originally posted by straytoaster:
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Right On, RD
Im sure Stark will be greatful for the research, even if it means more work.
I had forgot the areas you mentioned, goes to show how vast PoG is.
Keep up the good work
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Thank you, straytoaster, but I'm not sure Mr. Bledfast is grateful. He seems to be ignoring my post. Perhaps I have in some way offended him without any intention of doing so.
In any event, here is one more piece for the puzzle: If you decline to buy back the book stolen by Mesera's brother, the six bandits provide 30 experience points each and Mesera's brother gives you 60 points. But more importantly, Mesera himself has these stats - - Hps = 100 and XP = 200. The six padres in his cave are garden variety blue robed thieves (Hps: 20, XP: 17). 
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Originally posted by Rubber Ducky:
Thank you, straytoaster, but I'm not sure Mr. Bledfast is grateful. He seems to be ignoring my post. Perhaps I have in some way offended him without any intention of doing so.
Mr. Ducky,
Naw, you didn't offend me, nor am I ungrateful for your help. I've been busy to the point of insanity at work and haven't had time to work on the compendium for a while(hence why it hasn't changed in a while). Don't be dismayed though, I have your information captured and when I have the time it will get into the compendium. I do appreciate your efforts, and the efforts of all those who have sent me information for it.
I appologize for not responding to your post, which you felt was an indication of my ignoring you. It wasn't meant that way. I do appreciate your efforts.
Thank you.
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Hobbes: Isn't your pants' zipper supposed to be in the front?
Heh, ok, so over a month since the guide has been updated. I've been bogged down and extremelly busy in real life though.
Anyhow I have posted a new version of the guide. It is still located (url="http://"http://www.avalon.net/~honda/pog/pogwalkthrough2a.htm")here(/url), though keep your eyes peeled as the address will change in the near future, and the Compendium will be hosted by a new site with an altered look. Woo woo!
From my revisions log:
Added:
To the Bestiary -
Azarath - Hps = 120
Cyclops - Hps = 100
Earth Elemental - Hps = 100
Ghoul - Hps = 60 XP = 90
Guardian - Hps = 2500 XP = 5000
Ice Elemental - Hps = 125
Lilith - Hps = 75 XP = 1000
Medusa - Hps = 100 XP = 800
Minotaur - Hps = 135 XP = 1500
Rogue Archmage - Hps = 55
Blue Spider - Hps = 65 XP = 95
Semenon - Hps = 40 XP = 45
Stone Giant - Hps = 80 XP = 120
To Secrets - Lilith Shrine
Changes: Moved the Mages section in the bestiary into alphabetical order with the rest of the bestiary.
Fixed: Mindhunter - Hps = 70 XP = 650 (not 600 as listed)
Notes: I have done nothing on the "special" monsters, ie. Mesera and his brother, Nehrina, etc. I plan on making a section, as per request, of "special people" of POG, and will list them there.
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