Does any know where i can fnd some new ship images? i dont mean like shipyard pictures or targeting pictures, i mean new ship that flys around.

there just arn't anuff shipyards out, or people who make ships, and just don't submit them.

i know about dreamweave, but they only have 4 nova ships, and i know about Ewan's Lair, but that shipyard has not been updated since 2002.

i love flying new ships, but sadly there just is'nt as much of them like there was in Override. Its been so long since Nova came out, but not much progress has been made. Plz do not take offence anyone, its just that waiting is fine, but when waiting turns into months, its just really tiring.

i need to eat, and new ships are my food(figuritivly speaking of course(fig. spelled wrong)).

:frown: please feed me. :frown:

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

It takes a -lot- of work to make a new ship, which is why most people don't want to just give away their work to anyone (I know I wouldn't, sorry.. although, come to think of it, not sure anyone would -want- mine ).. Your best recourse for getting new ships is to make 'em yourself. Download a copy of Strata from Ewan/Jules' website, figure out how to use it (Strata has an online manual at their website), make some ships, follow Ewan's spinning tutorial... it takes practice, but it's not too hard to learn. sprightly voice Plus you're being self-reliant!

Enjoy yourself..
-K

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Art History = Cool! ...and yes, I'm odd.
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I guess i could give another shot and strata. mighty complicated in my eyes though. hehheh, guess i'll have to go hungry for a little while longer i suppose.

why do you think no one would want yours?

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

Mine are really bad.. I've only made one that actually looks liek a ship, and I can't get the colors right when it's actually inside Nova..

Reading the Strata manual really helps.. (url="http://"http://www.strata.com/support/3dmanual/index.html")Strata Online Manual(/url) It's not too hard to get the hang of.. I could probably make okay ships if I put work into it, but I've always been bad at graphics.

-K

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Art History = Cool! ...and yes, I'm odd.
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i see. well, i just finished downloading strata, and to be honast, my biggest set back is the fact that i have a hard time coming up with new indeas. hehheh, i am great and coming up with ways to improve on things, just not make my own things. But, i will try. and how know, maybe i'll make a good one. a nice and big warship. i like those.

thx kate.

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

(This message has been edited by KarTaniK (edited 07-12-2003).)

Well, go for it.. Maybe you can get some ideas searching Google Images for spaceships.. Or you can try and come up with a theme for them.. the ones I'm working on for my plugin are very sleek and shiny. Almost liquid. Which is difficult to make look nice in the game, because of reflections.. Ah well. If you have any more questions, ask

-K

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Art History = Cool! ...and yes, I'm odd.
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sounds cool.

btw, how do i put a picture up on here? it didn't say of the faq.

i wanted to ask you if you were talking about useing strata do do ships that rotate by rléD's and rlé8's.

but i just figured out to say to it so i guess i don't need to put a picture up. how ever it would be nice to know how to put a picture up here for later.

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

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Originally posted by KarTaniK:
**sounds cool.

btw, how do i put a picture up on here? it didn't say of the faq.

i wanted to ask you if you were talking about useing strata do do ships that rotate by rléD's and rlé8's.

but i just figured out to say to it so i guess i don't need to put a picture up. how ever it would be nice to know how to put a picture up here for later.

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Images tend to (although it's not a rule) be posted in the EV Image Gallery. Sometimes developers will post images using the "( url)" or the "( img)" tags to show off the graphics in their plug, but that lately has been rare. Most people prefer the ( url) tag for large images and ( img) for small in consideration to 56k users.

Matrix

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thank you matrix. that is exactly what i wanted to know. know i just need to know about the strata part of my question.

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

Creating a ship works as follows:

1- Create the model in Strata (or any other 3-D modelling program)
2- "Spin" the model.. this is how you make the ship's rotation. Jules has an excellent tutorial on his website, which is (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/ewan")here(/url). Follow the directions, referring to the Strata manual for help when necessary.
3- Render the spin of the ship and engine glow separately. To do this, create a new texture that is completely black- no reflectiveness, no gloss, etc. (Click on the little camera icon in the upper right hand corner to get a snapshot of the texture on an object- when the texture is solid black, you have it right.) Apply the texture to the ship, then render your spin. Then remove the texture (by going up to the Object Properties window, textures tab, and expanding the window so that you can delete your texture from the list of applied textures) and delete the engine glow. Render the spin of the ship.
4- These should both be saved- you'll want to name one with the name glow and one with ship, just so you don't get confused.
5- Download the w00tware application "Sprites" (if you haven't already). Take both of your movies, and drop them onto the "m2s" application within the Sprites folder. Click okay. Let them get processed, then..
6- Open up Resedit. From here, the tutorial "TutorialsInS" explains the process much better than I can- download it from the add-ons page.

Eventually, you'll wind up with rleDs and rle8s, yes. But you have a few more steps to go through first :frown:

Good luck!
-K

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Art History = Cool! ...and yes, I'm odd.
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i think, i'd be better off mentally if i just waited on TCs to come out. hehheh,

but that you very much for all your help kate.

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

For override you could find millions of plugs that said "it adds one ship", but now with Nova's Rle format and engine glows and lights and whatnot, most people don't make the effort or are reluctant to share when they do.

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Well, mine'll get shared when I finish my plug..

In other words, never. Especially since I need to make better ships for it..

-K

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Art History = Cool! ...and yes, I'm odd.
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(This message has been edited by Kate (edited 07-14-2003).)

(This message has been edited by Kate (edited 07-14-2003).)

Hey Kate, that isn't bad at all. I'm always impressed with the whole smooth ship thingy, mainly because I do chunky detailed ships and haven't figured out the whole smooth thingy, but that looks pretty cool...

~A~

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(url="http://"http://dreamwave.evula.net/")http://dreamwave.evula.net/(/url) has a pretty good shipyard

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Just to re-enforce what Kate said,

Making ships is a lengthy, and sometimes boring project. It usually takes me about 4-6 hours to model alone, and another 2 to texture. On top of that, you have to set up scenes, render, and then convert into the desired format. Rendering sprites, depending on ship size, and especially for vellos ships takes ages, and many times you are forced off of your computer while it renders. Then you have to convert the movie into a pict, the pict into rle, render outfit pics, outfit tabs ... the process takes quite a while. And for why? So that anyone may use it in their plugin.

Most artists want their art to be something special, in one thing exclusively, so it dosent get overused by the masses and forgotten or discredited as something that has been 'used too much'

Many times, such things are used for cheap, small plugins which take an artist's hours of work and make a stupid cheat ship out of this. Make a drawing or painting sometime, spend a couple hours on at, at least 5, and scan it on to your computer. Then ask yourself wether you want it on a lot of newbie sites, incorporated into terrible design - would you want your work so prostituted?

Don't get me wrong, somtimes graphics arent overused, and good plugins are made using them, but the chances of that happening are quite slim.

Its either use whats already online, or make your own.

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after trying to make a ship my self and failing, i completly agree with you admiral.

and kate, that is a very sweet ship. i like to see ships with large engine glows and flares. sometimes i'll see a major ship, with a hardly noticable enigne. very sad. but yours is very awsome.

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

Thanks for the compliments.. I'm surprised.. blinks :redface: Whenever I put it into the game, unfortunately, it shows up as very white, rather than the current metallic silver.. not good. Plus I've been having trouble with a black outline, although I think I've got that resolved now. It also looks odd without texturing or decals, which I'd really like to add but don't have enough skill for. I know what I want for my plug's other ships, and Stephen Woowat actually let me recruit him into helping me with ship concepts, but I'm not sure I've got the Strata-skills to do this. Of course, I have no time, either.. I leave next Sunday and won't be back until I return to school, except for two days.. Latin Convention (Yeah, I'm even geekier than the rest of you! :rolleyes: ) and vacation. So I have homework and Latin projects to finish by then, am and mainly concentrating on working out the actual design and programming of my plug and finishing my mrxak challenge entry.. mutter

But anyway, enough muttering from me.. Keep trying, KarTanik- what does your ship attempt look like? My first one was a box with a hole cut out of it.. (although that was in Bryce 3 :p)

-K

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Art History = Cool! ...and yes, I'm odd.
"The pigeons are coming! The pigeons are coming!" -Kate
50 posts in a week and a half!
Latin=Cool! ....and yes, I'm a nerd.

(This message has been edited by Kate (edited 07-14-2003).)

i was atempting a 176x176 juggernaught ship. i like those big ships.

as for your ship that turns out white, could it be that your putting in the mask first instead of the spin? you probly have already cheacked that so i am just guessing. hehheh.

but, i don't have much time in my buisy life for things like that, so...
thanx anyways for all your imense amounts of help.

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KarTaniK
I gave up trying to come up with my own sig.

(quote)Originally posted by KarTaniK:
**i was atempting a 176x176 juggernaught ship.:)

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