I'm working on a small TC, and I am having trouble with my government quotes. I am using STR# id 7000 for gövt 128, but instead of saying that when hailed, they hail me and say it. How do I fix it? What did I do wrong?
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Check your dudes and make sure that the approprate hail text is selected. To elaborate on that, if you want only govt hails then check that flag, not the specific string flag with the text field. The engine knows to find the appropriate STR# ID if you matched them up correctly. Another thing to note on STR#s: If you use 10 possible comments in your STR# resource like the original govt STR#s, the first five are used by freighters and traders while the latter five are used by warships and fighters. I think the only way to have a ship hail you is to make it a pers. Did you accidentally mix up your dudes and pers? Is a pers ship always around when this happens? Without more information, I can't think of any way for a ship to hail you otherwise.
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(This message has been edited by Kame (edited 06-24-2003).)
??? I don't have any përs resources yet. I keep getting the message "We don't attack innocents. That is not our way." and the other messages put at the bottom of my screen!
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Ok, guess number 2. It could be a message bouy string. Does it happen in every system you go to or just one? Is there a ship name in front of the text? i.e. "Shuttle 383: blah blah blah" Make sure that your STR# ID is indeed 7000 and not 1000.
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Originally posted by Mazer Rackham:
**I'm working on a small TC, and I am having trouble with my government quotes. I am using STR# id 7000 for gövt 128, but instead of saying that when hailed, they hail me and say it. How do I fix it? What did I do wrong?
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Well, let's break this problem down a bit to simplify it.
First, the facts:
1. You want the quotes to be recieved when hailed, easy enough.
2. You're using STR# id 7000 for government 128, which is the correct STR#, so that isn't the problem.
3. The problem is that the ships are too friendly- they volunteer the information as opposed to giving it out when hailed.
How to solve this:
Examine the possible causes of this problem:
1. The dudes who are hailing
2. The governments affiliated with said dudes or ships
For the dudes, the key piece of information is how they interact with the player, .ie their infotypes. Do they give advice, generic hails, prices, etc? make sure these types don't overlap and are set correctly.
For the governments, it's all in the flags. Certain data could be mixed up- from non-hailable flag types to hostile to not sending distress signals. Check the flags, make sure you haven't mixed one or two up here or there. EVN will do odd things when the flags get tangled.
peace,
_bomb
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(This message has been edited by Bomb (edited 06-25-2003).)
1. The düdes: The düdes are set to 8000 in the InfoTypes field. According to the EVN Bible, "0x8000 Generic govt hail messages."
2. The gövts: Flags is $6210, Flags2 is $0050. This should give the following (again, according to the EVN Bible): Warships of this govt will retreat when their shields drop below 25% - otherwise they fight to the death; Warships will take bribes; Freighters will take bribes; Planets of this govt will take bribes; Roadside Assistance - Ships of this govt will always repair or refuel the player for free; Ships of this govt prefer to use hypergates instead of jumping out.
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Wow, building by hand. Impressive. Get (url="http://"http://w00tware.ev-nova.net/")NovaTools(/url).
I'm assuming you're using ResEdit. Installing NovaTools onto it will make things a lot easier. Or else grab (url="http://"http://davidarthur.evula.net/")Mission Computer(/url). Not complete but it's better than trying to figure out all those bits and flags. Both are small downloads.
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Wow, building by hand. Impressive. Get NovaTools.
I'm assuming you're using ResEdit. Installing NovaTools onto it will make things a lot easier. Or else grab Mission Computer. Not complete but it's better than trying to figure out all those bits and flags. Both are small downloads.
Actually, I am using NovaTools, but wanted my reply to be comprehensible to those that don't use it. Plus, by writing the hex code I am verifying that the flags I want and have listed below are the ones actually entered.
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Originally posted by Mazer Rackham:
**Actually, I am using NovaTools, but wanted my reply to be comprehensible to those that don't use it. Plus, by writing the hex code I am verifying that the flags I want and have listed below are the ones actually entered.
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No, your reply made perfect sense for a fellow programmer...
I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies- if you'd like I can take a look at it for you, and if we're still unable to determine the problem, what do you say we bug dave or cookie to see if they know- if not, we take it to burchie himself.
peace,
_bomb
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I emailed you with the plugin (graphics removed) as an attachment. Thanks for your time!
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Originally posted by Bomb:
I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies- if you'd like I can take a look at it for you, and if we're still unable to determine the problem, what do you say we bug dave or cookie to see if they know- if not, we take it to burchie himself.
Sure, if you guys get stumped, mail me. 
all the best,
Dave
(quote)Originally posted by pipeline:
**Sure, if you guys get stumped, mail me.:p
The problem is that I think you're using a program to code everything and the program has a glitch. You didn't have the ResEdit templates in your plug-in, which leads me to believe you weren't using RedEdit at all, which isn't a great idea- ResEdit is solid and bug free, and if you'd been using it you could have found the problem in under a minute.
Not to lecture you though.. The problem is that in the dudeinfo fields the value given is not correct- in fact, in all four of the dudes it said "-32768" Put it to the normal value and the comm/hails will work just fine- I fixed them myself. Still, stuff like this happening can sometimes be good- you discovered a really creepy little effect for EVN. Comm quotes floating out of nowhere.. Ghost ships perhaps? Damn it, I wish my project wasn't dead. 
_bomb
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(This message has been edited by Bomb (edited 06-26-2003).)
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Ghost ships, eh? 
Btw, I was using NovaTools.
That problem seems to be fixed (I think that it was the flëts that were the problem.) However, now the ships are giving me advice, such as "Phobos is a good place to sell equipment." The InfoTypes value is set to 8000. I don't know what's wrong. A little more help would be, well, helpful.
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Originally posted by Bomb:
Comm quotes floating out of nowhere.. Ghost ships perhaps?
My plugin has a section with ghost ships in it (sort of..).. How did you cause this again?
-K
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Originally posted by Mazer Rackham:
**Ghost ships, eh?:D
Btw, I was using NovaTools.
That problem seems to be fixed (I think that it was the flëts that were the problem.) However, now the ships are giving me advice, such as "Phobos is a good place to sell equipment." The InfoTypes value is set to 8000. I don't know what's wrong. A little more help would be, well, helpful.
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Try reinstalling both ResEdit and NovaTools. It sounds like one of those is corrupting something.
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Kame: I tried reinstalling both and rechecking those values. The problem persists, but thanks for the suggestion, Kame. I am now using strictly ResEdit with templates.
Kate: Ask Bomb. I haven't a clue exactly what I did. Sorry.
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To anyone who wants information about the topic of this thread:
I won't be able to provide it for a while. I'm going vacationing from Saturday to the following Sunday (9 days total). I still will appreciate any help that can be provided: I just can't give feedback. Thanks to Bomb and Kame, I appreciate it! I'll be back that Monday, so don't expect replies till then. This is Mazer Rackham, signing off.
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Hi. I'm back after the hiatus. Bump.
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