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virmor

I made a ship last night and put it into ev-classic as a confed ship, but it doesn't show up anywhere. Anyone know why?

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MadFax7

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Originally posted by virmor:
I made a ship last night and put it into ev-classic as a confed ship, but it doesn't show up anywhere. Anyone know why?

It might help to be a little more specific, like do you mean you added a ship, that is suposed to be for the confeds, or did you replace an existing confed ship? And do you mean it does not show up in the shipyard... Or?

But, here are some things you can try: make sure the MissionBit field is set to -1, that you're looking on planets that have a sufficient tech level, (Keep in mind that the shipyard graphics well remain the same unless you replaced them) and make sure your plugin is an actual EV plugin. (Get info with ResEdit and change the type to Mpďf and the creator to Mërc)

And what are you using to create the ship? Res-Edit? NovaTools? ... EV-Edit? ::shudders::

(edit) Reading over your other topic, I'm now guessing that this may be a spďn problem. Double check and make sure the resource IDs for the shďp and spďn are matched up properly. Also make sure the spďn is pointing to the right PICTs. (/edit)

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virmor

okay, more specific, um...
I made a new ship in Infini-d 3.0.1 (old) Then graphic converter 4.4, and used EV-edit. I have Resedit but I think it's a bit complicated, were would I get nova tools?
Anyway I mean it doesn't show in any normal confed systems. I want it to be able to be bought when other confed ships i.e Cruiser, are able to be bought, but show up in afore mentioned systems. if I do a bit of tampering I can buy it alright, but I'm the only one who has it.
Yes it is an EVC plug, (checked). Any help on above topics?

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MadFax7

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Originally posted by virmor:
were would I get nova tools?

See my sig, but it doesn't help you. I was asking because I thought you might be using it, which would be the reason it wasn't working. (And I would highly recommend learning to use resedit - it's not that complicated. I (or someone else) well post details on how to use it, if requested.)

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Originally posted by virmor:
**Anyway I mean it doesn't show in any normal confed systems. I want it to be able to be bought when other confed ships i.e Cruiser, are able to be bought, but show up in afore mentioned systems.
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Ok, I get it now. What's wrong is that you need to edit the corrosponding düde resources - I have no idea which one(s) they are, but they should be named something like "Confed Warships", "Confed Patrol Ships", "Confed Traders", or some such. Once you find the düde resource(s), you'll have to remove one ship from one of the fields. If possible remove one that's a duplicate. (though that may not be possible)

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Originally posted by virmor:
**okay, more specific, um...
I made a new ship in Infini-d 3.0.1 (old) Then graphic converter 4.4, and used EV-edit. I have Resedit but I think it's a bit complicated, were would I get nova tools?
Anyway I mean it doesn't show in any normal confed systems. I want it to be able to be bought when other confed ships i.e Cruiser, are able to be bought, but show up in afore mentioned systems. if I do a bit of tampering I can buy it alright, but I'm the only one who has it.
Yes it is an EVC plug, (checked). Any help on above topics?

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Ew... EV-Edit? Trash it right away and start learning ResEdit. EV-Edit, while it was revolutionary at the time it came out, is pure evil. Most developers find that they spend more time fixing the bugs that EV-Edit randomly inserts than they do actually developing. Res-Edit is slightly harder to learn, but it is oh so much nicer. Nova Tools won't help you unless you are developing for Nova. You see, Nova Tools is simply a utility package for ResEdit that allows you to graphically edit resources, but since Nova has more resource types, and are much more complicated than those of the games that come before it, Nova Tools is simply incompatible with the much simple structure of EV. Arion's EVONE looks to be a really great editing program, because not only does it have a GUI, but it also will be able to edit EV, EVO, and EVN.

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virmor

Resedit is what I will learn then. However, I would really appreciate it if anyone could post the above mentioned details for resedit, that way, I could do some actual developing. (Every time I try to close Ev-Edit it crashes!!! :mad:
Um, what version of Resedit would be good?, I can get my hands on any of them but I have 2.9.1 at the moment.
When is Arion's EVONE coming out?

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Mazca

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Originally posted by virmor:
**Resedit is what I will learn then. However, I would really appreciate it if anyone could post the above mentioned details for resedit, that way, I could do some actual developing. (Every time I try to close Ev-Edit it crashes!!!:mad:
Um, what version of Resedit would be good?, I can get my hands on any of them but I have 2.9.1 at the moment.
When is Arion's EVONE coming out?

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I've never seen a ResEdit 2.9.1 - I have 2.1.3 and thought that was the newest version.

EVONE has only just entered beta-testing with some of the editors complete. It will be a few months yet before any publically released elements appear, and longer still until it is completely finished.

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Originally posted by Mazca:
I've never seen a ResEdit 2.9.1 - I have 2.1.3 and thought that was the newest version.

ResEdit 2.1.3 is the latest released version. There are a few leaked copies of old ResEdit 3.0 betas floating around, but they don't have anything 2.1.3 doesn't except support for resource formats from the now-defunct 'Copland' Mac OS 8 project. There are also a few hacked versions with higher version numbers, but they too should be avoided. You can always get the latest version of ResEdit (url="http://"http://www.resexcellence.com/support_files/resedit.shtml")from ResExcellence(/url).

Incidentally, while it won't currently help you edit ships, (url="http://"http://davidarthur.evula.net/mc.php/")MissionComputer 1.4.0(/url) can help you edit the düde resource that MadFax7 mentioned, as well as several others including missions and governments.

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Originally posted by David Arthur:
**ResEdit 2.1.3 is the latest released version. There are a few leaked copies of old ResEdit 3.0 betas floating around, but they don't have anything 2.1.3 doesn't except support for resource formats from the now-defunct 'Copland' Mac OS 8 project. There are also a few hacked versions with higher version numbers, but they too should be avoided. You can always get the latest version of ResEdit from ResExcellence.

Incidentally, while it won't currently help you edit ships, MissionComputer 1.4.0 can help you edit the düde resource that MadFax7 mentioned, as well as several others including missions and governments.

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Your just as bad as EVula, what with the Self-promoting left and right.
Resedit isnt that hard to learn it took me just 1 month to learn it like the number of toes on each of my feet. If i can learn it anyone can.

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EVula

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Originally posted by Unreal Centipede:
Your just as bad as EVula, what with the Self-promoting left and right.

You're right, David Arthur self-promoted a valuable resource to the Escape Velocity community. Thank you for comparing me to him, I take it as a compliment.

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Pah. Nobody is as bad as EVula. David Arthur self-promotes far less, and when he does it's for the good of others. EVula self-promotes for world domination. He's even gotten to me!

I love how quickly topics degenerate into talking about me, even when I'm not involved in them directly.

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virmor

Sorry, did mean 2.1.3,I have a copy of Graphic converter 2.9.1 :redface: , I looked through and studied some other plugs last night and learnt the art of putting in ships, mostly, I editited it all last night in resedit like madfax7 said and...
the ship's sprites don't work, I can send it to anyone to check for me, but I spent an hour going over the IDs last night and couldn't find out why it wasn't working. The sprites come up, in systems now (düdes edited )but as the whole pic not each individual sprite. Iv'e changed the appropriate spďn rescources but it didn't work.

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MadFax7

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Originally posted by virmor:
Sorry, did mean 2.1.3,I have a copy of Graphic converter 2.9.1:redface: , I looked through and studied some other plugs last night and learnt the art of putting in ships, mostly, I editited it all last night in resedit like madfax7 said and...
the ship's sprites don't work, I can send it to anyone to check for me, but I spent an hour going over the IDs last night and couldn't find out why it wasn't working. The sprites come up, in systems now (düdes edited )but as the whole pic not each individual sprite. Iv'e changed the appropriate spďn rescources but it didn't work.

It sounds like you set the spďn X/Y size to the size of the whole pic, not each individual frame.

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virmor

that would probably be it, i'll try asap

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Coraxus

Actually, the latest version of ResEdit is version 4. I have one which I downloaded from ModenStudios Hotline. If you have Hotline, you can go and log on to the IP number at this (url="http://"http://www.modenstudios.com/hotline.html")site(/url). It is also where you can go to download Hotline Client if you don't have one.

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Originally posted by Coraxus:
Actually, the latest version of ResEdit is version 4. I have one which I downloaded from ModenStudios Hotline.

Are you sure that's a real ResEdit release, not someone's hacked version?

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