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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
**Well, it's nice to see that Taylor, if no-one else, shares my view, but I iwsh the rest of you could at least consider it here. Some people just do not want to use Res-Edit. I won't go into why not, because you'll all leap to the program's defence with 10/10 for rant, and 1/10 for empathy. : )

Every time I've used Res-Edit, it's screwed up. Even changing something so small as a ship's shields, it's screwed up. On the other hand, where EV-Edit works, it really does work. I know you say that EV-Edit can randomly change numbers, EVula, but the places where it screws up are easy to avoid.

Taylor; stay away from missions, there's a flag there that will not deselect which messes up any missions you want to make. Also stay away from systems for the most part - it works mostly, other than VisBits, but it can cause EV-Edit to crash occassionally. I've never found any problems with any other areas, though.

I'd strongly advise finding MissionComputer.

**

I wouldn't say I don't want to learn it. Its that i don't have the time and I don't feel like reading a 100 page book full of jargon which I don't feel like trying to understand. I was hoping for something Easy not "go read a few minutes of resedit doc" isn't there anything else i can use?

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Originally posted by Taylor:
if the systems thingy doesn't work compleatly is there any other thing i can use for editing systems?

Only Res-Edit.

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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
**Only Res-Edit.

**

doesn't EV-Edit sorta work for making Stellers/Systems stuff?

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I found something for EV:C in the addons that is only a galactic map editor. It's called EV Developer's Map and you can find it in the Utilities section of the EV addons page. Even though it's not made for EVO, you could use it to make the map look how you wanted, then use resedit and copy the x-y coordinates into an EVO format plug.

MickyBIs

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(This message has been edited by MickyBIs (edited 08-05-2002).)

If you tell EV Dev Map to use the EVO files, it will make EVO plugs; although I might just be using an EVO version...

anyway:
•make aliases of EVO's data 1, data 2, Graphics, Titles, and Sounds files.

•put them in the EVO data files folder in the Dev Map folder.

•That's what the directions said.

•I'll shutup now.

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Originally posted by gyrospin:
**If you tell EV Dev Map to use the EVO files, it will make EVO plugs; although I might just be using an EVO version...:p

anyway:
•make aliases of EVO's data 1, data 2, Graphics, Titles, and Sounds files.

•put them in the EVO data files folder in the Dev Map folder.

•That's what the directions said.

•I'll shutup now.

**

Thanks for the help.. I already knew that. When i first launched EV Dev map it asked were all those were and placed the aliases in the right folders all for me.

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(quote)Originally posted by EVula:
**I'm not sure if it's the latest or not, though, so if anyone could verify that, I'd be happy.:)

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(This message has been edited by Blackdog (edited 08-06-2002).)
**

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Originally posted by Taylor:
**I wouldn't say I don't want to learn it. Its that i don't have the time and I don't feel like reading a 100 page book full of jargon which I don't feel like trying to understand. I was hoping for something Easy not "go read a few minutes of resedit doc" isn't there anything else i can use?

**

If you don't have the patience to learn Res-Edit, I doubt you'll have the patience to make a worthwhile plug-in.

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Originally posted by Blackdog:
**If you don't have the patience to learn Res-Edit, I doubt you'll have the patience to make a worthwhile plug-in.

**

Ok. I guess ill have to sit down and read the whole thing.

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Ok, so ive just made this very small plug-in to see if it would work in ResEdit. So how do i get it into the format of a EVO plug-in?

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Originally posted by Taylor:
**Ok, so ive just made this very small plug-in to see if it would work in ResEdit. So how do i get it into the format of a EVO plug-in?

**

Open up a real EVO plug in Resedit, then go to the file menu and select "get info for <plug name>" then look a the two fields which are called "Type" and "Creator". Remember what is in these fields, open your plug in resedit and put the same thing in the same two fields. (In case you don't already know, make the two dots above letters by pressing option-u then the letter) After putting those two things in there, the former Resedit document will auto matically become an EVO plug.

One caveat though. DO NOT copy the type and creator of an EVO data file, they use a different type and creator.

Anyway, good luck on your plug making, and have fun!

MickyBIs

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Originally posted by MickyBIs:
**Open up a real EVO plug in Resedit, then go to the file menu and select "get info for <plug name>" then look a the two fields which are called "Type" and "Creator". Remember what is in these fields, open your plug in resedit and put the same thing in the same two fields.

**

Actually you can just copy a plug-in and delete the resources.

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Originally posted by Taylor:
**
Ok. I guess ill have to sit down and read the whole thing.

**

Good luck. It's really not that hard.

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Originally posted by Blackdog:
**Good luck. It's really not that hard.

**

I got the EVO bible seperated in diffrent docs so it is easer to under stand. So I only have to look at what im doing. And that really helped... !

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Originally posted by MickyBIs:
**Open up a real EVO plug in Resedit, then go to the file menu and select "get info for <plug name>" then look a the two fields which are called "Type" and "Creator". Remember what is in these fields, open your plug in resedit and put the same thing in the same two fields. (In case you don't already know, make the two dots above letters by pressing option-u then the letter) After putting those two things in there, the former Resedit document will auto matically become an EVO plug.

One caveat though. DO NOT copy the type and creator of an EVO data file, they use a different type and creator.

Anyway, good luck on your plug making, and have fun!

MickyBIs

**

Thanks man! That was one question that was like "How the heck do i do this and that?" You answered it. I guess ill come back here if i need any help.

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Ive got a question again...

Under the Spobs how do you add those thingys:

0x00000001 Can land/dock here
0x00000002 Has commodity exchange
0x00000004 Can outfit ship here
0x00000008 Can buy ships here
0x00000010 Stellar is a station instead of a planet
0x00000020 Stellar is uninhabited (no traffic control)
0x00000040 Has bar
0x00000000 Won't trade in food
0x10000000 Low food prices
0x20000000 Medium food prices
0x40000000 High food prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in industrial goods
0x01000000 Low industrial prices
0x02000000 Medium industrial prices
0x04000000 High industrial prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in medical supplies
0x00100000 Low medical prices
0x00200000 Medium medical prices
0x00400000 High medical prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in luxury goods
0x00010000 Low luxury prices
0x00020000 Medium luxury prices
0x00040000 High luxury prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in metal
0x00001000 Low metal prices
0x00002000 Medium metal prices
0x00004000 High metal prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in equipment
0x00000100 Low equipment prices
0x00000200 Medium equipment prices
0x00000400 High equipment prices

Say i wanted more then just one of those how do you add them?

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Originally posted by Taylor:
Say i wanted more then just one of those how do you add them?

Easy! If you want the following characteristics:

0x00000001 Can land/dock here
0x00000002 Has commodity exchange
0x00000040 Has bar
0x40000000 High food prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in industrial goods
0x00400000 High medical prices
0x00040000 High luxury prices
0x00000000 Won't trade in metal
0x00000000 Won't trade in equipment

You say: 0x40040043

I'm not sure what it becomes if a number rolls over 9; I'll leave that for someone more knowledgable.

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(quote)Originally posted by EVula:
**You know, this topic really should be on the EV Dev board instead... iMove after iRespond.:)

Anyway / I got the part of adding I just didn't get the part of carring. When i carryed the normal way things started to go weird.

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(quote)Originally posted by EVula:
**You know, this topic really should be on the EV Dev board instead... iMove after iRespond.:D

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Originally posted by Taylor:
**Thanks for moving it. I guess i should have started it here. Sorry:)

Anyway / I got the part of adding I just didn't get the part of carring. When i carryed the normal way things started to go weird.
**

You should never have to carry. This is written in Hexadecimal notation: each place can represent 16 values rather than 10. So instead of using the numbers 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, we use 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F.

A = 10, B = 11, C = 12 and so on up to F = 15.

So now, if you want to add the flags 0x0004 and 0x0008, it does NOT come out as 0x0012 as it would in decimal notation. In hexadecimal it comes out as 0x000C.

Understand?

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Originally posted by Mazca:
**You should never have to carry. This is written in Hexadecimal notation: each place can represent 16 values rather than 10. So instead of using the numbers 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, we use 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F.

A = 10, B = 11, C = 12 and so on up to F = 15.

So now, if you want to add the flags 0x0004 and 0x0008, it does NOT come out as 0x0012 as it would in decimal notation. In hexadecimal it comes out as 0x000C.

Understand?

**

Ok what if it goes over 15? Also another question:
When I was making systems some times they wouldn't show up on the map or be hpyerlinked. I was using ResEdit for that, i tryed EV Delopers Map but i didn't know how to get into res edit after using EV Dev Map

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