Just in case you hadn' t noticed, the engines of EV, EVO and probably Nova; handle ship speeds differently. What I mean is: A Confed Frigate or Cruiser on EV is speed
150, It moves very slowly. However, a UE Destroyer in EVO is also speed 150, but it moves fairly quickly: Therefore the two game engines handle the speed values differently.
What I would like to know is: Is there some sort of algorithim that can convert EV ship speeds to their equivalent EVO or EVN speeds (assuming what I have said above is correct) and if there is an algorithim (or conversion ratio(or something else!), could you tell me what it is?

Thanks,

Will

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The speed handling at least doesn't differ from EV to EVO, as they're practically using the same engine. It's all about relations; in EVO, all cap ships are damn slow, so a 150 fast Destroyer seems fast.

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Just move the slider to a different speed if it matters that much to you.

As for the relations, that's right. In EV, there were only 8 capital ships (excepting the Alien cruiser), but in EVO, there were lots. Thus, you see cap ships a whole lot more often in EVO, making it easier to compare your speed. In EV, the Kestrel and the Corvette were fast, and the other capital ships were farely rare. And what capital ships you did see, also probably went the same speed as you, making you feel as if you're going incredibly slow.

Matrix

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The only time I ever slow down the game is when I have to beat a tough ship, slowing down the game saturates the damage rate of my weapons but decreases the range of my fire. But when my weapons damage fire power becomes saturated, so does the enemy's, so I have to attack them in a blindspot if I can.

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Bull. EVN DOES run a lot slower on my pmac g3 B&W; w/ 192MB Ram than EV and EVO did on the same computer. The shuttle in EVN has a speed of 400, the EVC 250. The EVC goes at least as fast as the EVN shuttle. It isn't about relationships. I gave an EVC weapon the same sound and reload as the EVN generic "blaster." Holding down the trigger, the sound repeated much faster in EV than in EVN. Those people who think they have all the answers to everything said that it was becuase EVC and EVO didn't correct for fast processors as well as EVN, and that actually all this time EVC and EVO had been running TOO FAST on my g3. Who knows, maybe they're right. Just don't you all try to stick your head in the sand and say that it isn't slower. Maybe it's the same on a 6100 or something but not on a g3.

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Bull. EVN DOES run a lot slower on my pmac g3 B &W; w/ 192MB Ram than EV and EVO did on the same computer. The shuttle in EVN has a speed of 400, the EVC 250. The EVC goes at least as fast as the EVN shuttle. It isn't about relationships. I gave an EVC weapon the same sound and reload as the EVN generic "blaster." Holding down the trigger, the sound repeated much faster in EV than in EVN. Those people who think they have all the answers to everything said that it was becuase EVC and EVO didn't correct for fast processors as well as EVN, and that actually all this time EVC and EVO had been running TOO FAST on my g3. Who knows, maybe they're right. Just don't you all try to stick your head in the sand and say that it isn't slower. Maybe it's the same on a 6100 or something but not on a g3.

Could be, but EVN runs at the same speed on my G3 Server (ie. 300 MHz) as it does on my G4 1GHz dual. The only difference occurs when lots of weapons and explosions and ships and stuff are on the screen. The G4 doesn't slow down (as noticeably) as the G3. I haven't had the chance to try EV/EVO on the G4 yet, so I couldn't tell you about that, but I seem to recall when I went from a Performa 636 to the G3, there wasn't as much a speed difference as much as a performance (in high ship/weapon situations), and a quicker loading time.

Matrix

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And why is this on the dev board? Why couldn't it be on the Nova board? It doesn't seem to have to do anything with making plugs.

Matrix

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**And why is this on the dev board? Why couldn't it be on the Nova board? It doesn't seem to have to do anything with making plugs.

Matrix

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Ah, but it is! I was just making a plug-in for EVO with ships from EV (with the same stats e.t.c), and the EV warships that I made seemed absurdly fast. So that is why I was wondering if the different engines handle ship speeds differently. (Because my plug-in seems unrealistic with cruisers zooming around!)
Sorry if I didn't make this clear in my initial post.

Will

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Originally posted by what_is_the_matrix:
Could be, but EVN runs at the same speed on my G3 Server (ie. 300 MHz) as it does on my G4 1GHz dual.

Check your frame rates; my beige G3/233 gets around 15 in heavy battle situations, my Quicksilver G4/933 never drops below the usual 47.

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Originally posted by what_is_the_matrix:
Could be, but EVN runs at the same speed on my G3 Server (ie. 300 MHz) as it does on my G4 1GHz dual.

Check your frame rates; my beige G3/233 gets around 15 in heavy battle situations, my Quicksilver G4/933 never drops below the usual 47.

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Ah, but I did say that slowdown occurs whenever there are lots of ships and weapons and explosions on screen. However, the speed that the ships travel through the system are similar on both machines. In fact, I would even venture to say that they travel at the same speed, no matter how fast the machine is. A more powerful machine is simply able to handle the heavy graphics requirements of a pitched battle better.

Matrix

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I've always at least got the feeling playing Nova that the ships move slower... particularly the acceleration is worse. Piloting ships in Nova is a lot 'fuzzier' than in EV/O.

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**I've always at least got the feeling playing Nova that the ships move slower... particularly the acceleration is worse. Piloting ships in Nova is a lot 'fuzzier' than in EV/O.

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Yea. In EV/EVO, I'd only play in 2x if I was in a particularly slow ship. In EVN, I'm always playing with 2x on. You're right, though. A ship with a speed of 600 (like the starbridge) would go one heck of a lot faster in EV/EVO than in EVN.

Matrix

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