Does anybody know a place online that has examples of ev ships (not neccessarily stock ev, just ev-like ships) still in unrendered mechanisto format that I can look at? I got two that came with mechanisto helper 1.1.0, but it would be nice to get some more to look at and use for referance.

Also, does anyone know where I can get some shaders for mechanisto that would work well in ev? I could make my own, but that gets very time consuming and I'm not really too good at it.

I would get a better 3d application, like strata or something, but I can neither afford those kinds of programs, nor can my computer handle anything much more powerful than mechanisto. I tried strata once, but it was unuseable on this machine.

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Well, I seggust you switch applications. I used Mechanisto for a long time, but it didn't make the best graphics. If possible, you should switch to (url="http://"http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10215-100-4024097.html?tag=st.dl.10005-103-1.lst-7-1.4024097")Strata 3D(/url). It requires you to have a nice computer with OS 9 or above, and is 22 megs, but is worth the download. Otherwise, you can go to (url="http://"http://www.madman801.vze.com")My Website(/url) and click on the 'Shipyard' section and download some of the models.

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Like I said, I have tried and cannot run strata on this machine.

That is a broken link to your website.
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(This message has been edited by ares1 (edited 10-16-2001).)

I could send you some pretty basic models if you want.

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Ta-da! My first 3d creation that resembles something that might be considered an ev-style space ship. Sure, it lacks detail and engines, not to mention the see-through cockpit (which I am working on fixing), but it is still almost half decent looking. I call it the Riley Light Fighter.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Ta-da! My first 3d creation that resembles something that might be considered an ev-style space ship. Sure, it lacks detail and engines, not to mention the see-through cockpit (which I am working on fixing), but it is still almost half decent looking. I call it the Riley Light Fighter.

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Hmm..That's quite nice for a beginner. Did you turn on antil-aliasing when you rendered though? To turn it on press the render button, and look up near the top of the render window for a chechable box calle anti-aliasing. This will make everything smooth out nicely. It looks like you might of forgotten or not known...Anyways, as i said before, great effort!

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Good for a beginner? I wouldn't say so... I didn't make the wings. I didn't make the glass shader. I just scaled the wings, made a hemisphere and a sphere, slapped it all together and shaded it. I think it looks like crap... It need more detail, and engines.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Good for a beginner? I wouldn't say so... I didn't make the wings. I didn't make the glass shader. I just scaled the wings, made a hemisphere and a sphere, slapped it all together and shaded it. I think it looks like crap... It need more detail, and engines.

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Hey, we all gotta start somewhere. Go over to the Bryce Forum some time and see how many of the experts admit to starting with reflective spheres!

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Does anybody know a place online that has examples of ev ships (not neccessarily stock ev, just ev-like ships) still in unrendered mechanisto format that I can look at?
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I have a few alleged tutorials on my site (url="http://"http://home.earthlink.net/~squibix/ev")here(/url) and some other ships (url="http://"http://home.earthlink.net/~squibix/art/artships.html")here(/url). I can send you any of the models and shaders I used, just email me what you want.

Damn, those ships are awesome. Did you make those in mechanisto? If you did, I would love to see the scene files.

Ok, I refined the shaders, added engines, and did a lot of other stuff. Here it is:

The engines look ok, but I think they could be better.

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(This message has been edited by ares1 (edited 10-17-2001).)

Where can I get mechanisto? It came in handy a long long time ago, but I use Bryce for all my major graphics now... but its still good for... er... well, I haven't exactly explored all of its functions, bryce is incredibly easy to use.

-Lequis

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It is on download.com, versiontracker.com, ev addons page, tucows, and every other download site on the face on the earth.

Why would you want mechanisto when you could use bryce? Mechanisto is, as I undestand it, the bare basics of 3d modeling, and can't do much.

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Squibix, no fair, you're too good!!!

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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
**Squibix, no fair, you're too good!!!

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Yeah, really. How do you make things like that? Is there anyway I can make such things in mechanisto? Or do I need a new computer to handle some $3000 new software?

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Yeah, really. How do you make things like that? Is there anyway I can make such things in mechanisto? Or do I need a new computer to handle some $3000 new software?
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His site says he uses Mechanisto. As far as the modelling itself, things like that wouldn't be too hard, as long as I'm working with a modelling program I'm familiar with. Sadly, the only one right now that I can work well with is AutoCAD 2000, which is PC only and isn't built for rendering. Luckily, Mechanisto can read .dxf filess, so I'm starting to experiment with modelling stuff in drafting at school, then getting it to my home computer to try to texture and render it in Mechanisto.

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The only tutorials you have are sprites, shaders and textures? You should make a tutuorial on how to make the actual ship models look as good as yours.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**The only tutorials you have are sprites, shaders and textures? You should make a tutuorial on how to make the actual ship models look as good as yours.
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Yeah, PLEASE, oh PLEASE could you, Squibix. <--- very friendly smiles

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Yah, you sent me some old scene file you ahd ages ago but...as you know of apples devious plan which involves wiping the HD of all 233 iMacs when the TI came out.....

Anything nice and useful be sent to : paulos@gofree.indigo.ie

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Originally posted by ares1:
The only tutorials you have are sprites, shaders and textures? You should make a tutuorial on how to make the actual ship models look as good as yours.

I have a feeling that to make your ships look as good as his you'll want to know about sprites, shaders and textures. Beyond that what you need is much patience and much work. A few tips would be nice, but I don't think that you really need an entire tutorial. My Tip: Don't try and manipulate things with the mouse. While so very tempting when I first started I soon found that it really screws up things in the long run.

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My Tip: Don't try and manipulate things with the mouse. While so very tempting when I first started I soon found that it really screws up things in the long run.

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Yes, that is very good advice to beginners. Another is to always try to change the angle of something using orientation before using rotation. Rotation tends to make things harder to place.

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