I have been having a major failure with ShipWrite... When I open it, the thing crashes on the startup screen! I have plenty of memory alloted to it, and I am running plenty of RAM. It is the only program I am trying to open, so it has all my comp's available RAM (minus the 5 megs used by the OS, of course). This problem is very perplexing. I have tried reinstalling the program, thinking maybe it was corrupt, but no luck. Has anyone else had this problem? It is a bug? Here are my computer's vital stats:

16 MB RAM, 24 virtual
OS 7.5.3

By the way, ShipWrite worked absolutely fine for a while...it just suddenly stopped working.

Can anyone help me?

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I can't help you, but I'd like to report something else: OK, I'm working on my ship and I save and quit to go work on the missions. I come back into shipwrite to make another ship and my old one is gone. I'm not checking he "just read" box when the program starts up.

and they said it didn't have any bugs.

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It could be a plug-in you're trying to open.

If you grow sick of trying and failing to fix it, you can always try The Docks. It does the same thing.

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What is shipwrite,anyway?

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Firstly, shipwrite is a program made by R&R; Software to edit EVO ship resources

Secondly, under MacOS (pre X) just having the RAM avalible does not mean the application will get it, due to the underlying dirty hack to multitasking. To give an application more RAM you have to do it manually by clicking on the application and goin file->Get Info (command-i) and increasing the value under 'Prefered size'.

Both of you with problems should try that.

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Funny, I never had any problems with it. And I use it a lot; by a lot, I mean I hardly use anything else(other then EVEdit or ResEdit) Which verson are you using?

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I'm running on version 1.1.8 Is there a newer version out??

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Originally posted by Capt. Editor:
**I'm running on version 1.1.8 Is there a newer version out??

**

well i don't have it so... anywhere i can get it?

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Check the EVO Add-on's page, tell me if it works fine on your computer.

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Hey Platypus, you're running 7.5.3?

You do know you can get 7.5.5 from apple ftp sites?

It cures alot of disk rlated problems. I had 7.5.3 once and I downloaded 7.5.5 immediately. That was when I had my 575 and 475 and the 630.

I ran Shipwrite on my 7.5.5 LC630 (well, it sort of did have an fpu, but I put it in an LC case) I had no probs. Perhaps it's a conflict of extensions? I can't imagine Shipwrite uses many system resources, but maybe something got installed that really annoys it?

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Hi Guys, Platypus

The latest released ShipWrite is 1.1.8. It should also work back to system 7.0.

It has some problems with allocating spin PICT Ids. It tries to be systematic, but if it renumbers PICT IDs
when editing a existing plugins with semi random PICT IDs it is possible that it will try to overwrite PICTs by accident.
This doens't happen with plugins created from scratch with ShipWrite, and the readme docs have the PICT ID numebring system used by ShipWrite - you can check the plugin with ResEdit to confirm.

There are a couple of solutions

If you are just looking at files:. ShipWrite in readonly mode - it opens the resource files as readonly and it cannot make changes.

If you are creating plugins, check the PICT/spin id numbers first and make sure they are compatible or only make the
plugin ships with ShipWrite from scratch.

I will update ShipWrite after I am finished on the Nova editors, so that it won't change ids.

FYI: The new editors for Nova live inside ResEdit and don't suffer from this problem at all (ATMOS has tested it!)

Sorry for any inconvenience
DrRalph

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Thanks Dr. Ralph, and welcome to the boards!!

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Originally posted by blackhole:
**Secondly, under MacOS (pre X) just having the RAM avalible does not mean the application will get it, due to the underlying dirty hack to multitasking. To give an application more RAM you have to do it manually by clicking on the application and goin file- >Get Info (command-i) and increasing the value under 'Prefered size'.

Both of you with problems should try that.

**

Thanks, but I had done that already... And ShipWrite still doesn't work... ARG!

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Originally posted by Majordomo:
**Hey Platypus, you're running 7.5.3?

You do know you can get 7.5.5 from apple ftp sites?
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Is it still available? I couldn't find an update when I looked last time... Do you know an exact URL, or are you going to make me look for it myself?

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Originally posted by Capt. Editor:
**Thanks Dr. Ralph, and welcome to the boards!!

**

He's been around for a while longer than you have (and I have, I believe), you know...

Ralph's just playing around with a new user name.

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Originally posted by shayborg:
**He's been around for a while longer than you have (and I have, I believe), you know...;)

Ralph's just playing around with a new user name.
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Oh, DUH!!

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Originally posted by shayborg:
**He's been around for a while longer than you have (and I have, I believe), you know...;)

Ralph's just playing around with a new user name.

**

What name did he go by before?

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Originally posted by Nicholas Shanks:
**What name did he go by before?

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uhh... Ralph

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Just to pull this back to the original subject of the thread...

I recently upgraded my computer's RAM from 16 to 64MB (the max). I turned off Virtual Memory. The last time I loaded ShipWrite, it worked. Now, perhaps this is a fluke, but I think maybe ShipWrite and Virtual Memory do not like each other very much. Perhaps this would be an interesting note to Ralph and Rodger. Maybe they can check it out.

But at least it works now (so far)!

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Originally posted by Platypus:
**Just to pull this back to the original subject of the thread...
maybe ShipWrite and Virtual Memory do not like each other very much.
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It's usually pretty hard to program that way, and I have been using shipwrite under some pretty heavy thrash, so I doubt that's the problem. Maybe updating your OS to a newer version (9.1 works well even on my old computer, but 7.5.5 would be good as well) or look through your extensions (quicktime comes to mind) and update/disable them to test it.

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