Remember the old EV vs EVO battles? Who would win between:

3 kestrels vs 2 Crescent Warships

Rebels (1 manta, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser+4mantas) vs Voinians (1 interceptor, 1 fighter, 1 frigate, 1 cruiser+4fighters)

Confeds (see above) vs UE (ditto)

Azdgari ships vs Confeds

Make up your own, place bets, whatever!

I reckon the rebels would massacre the Voinians.

--gav

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I'd like to say that the Adzgari would take the confeds apart, but taking into consideration that the basic Crescent Warship's shields are 250, and with the Confed Cruiser's shields at 800, and the Confed Frigate's shields at 250, I think the confeds would win. :frown:

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The Kestrels will massacre the CWs, with the firepower provided by the Lightnings. It really out to be 3 CWs vs. 2 Kestrels, unless you're removing the fighter bays. In that case, I'll bet on the CW, because a Crescent Fighter bay is more of a liability than an asset.

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I don't know, I think that the Crescent Warship has a lot of shield-heavy weaponary, like SAD's and phase weapons. Maybe I'll simulate it someday.

What about an alien cruiser vs voinian dreadnought?

--gav

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Originally posted by pistgavin:
**I don't know, I think that the Crescent Warship has a lot of shield-heavy weaponary, like SAD's and phase weapons. Maybe I'll simulate it someday.

What about an alien cruiser vs voinian dreadnought?

--gav

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I agree gavin. SADs and Phase hurts. How will you simulate it? By doing a quick plug that makes Kestrels appear in EVO? The two most powerful ships of both games... the Cruiser would win. A Alien Cruiser is (except for turning ofcourz) as fast as a Lighting, and has extremely powerful, almost unjammable weapons, while the Dreadnougt has the same old inaccurate Rockets, only three at the same time. Its primary weapons is so powerful one shot can damage a Kestrel by 25% (Yes, I know. I once got hit.), while Enchanched Neutrons are deadly, but dont kill you instantly. If you get hit by Neutrons, you can go away, but with Heavy Fusion Beam youre dead after few hits. Finally, the fighters. While the Dreadnought has 3x fighters and they have more weapons, they are slower than molasses and the Alien Fighter is going circles around them, hitting with the powerful Fusion Beam.

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Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
**I agree gavin. SADs and Phase hurts. How will you simulate it? By doing a quick plug that makes Kestrels appear in EVO? The two most powerful ships of both games... the Cruiser would win. A Alien Cruiser is (except for turning ofcourz) as fast as a Lighting, and has extremely powerful, almost unjammable weapons, while the Dreadnougt has the same old inaccurate Rockets, only three at the same time. Its primary weapons is so powerful one shot can damage a Kestrel by 25% (Yes, I know. I once got hit.), while Enchanched Neutrons are deadly, but dont kill you instantly. If you get hit by Neutrons, you can go away, but with Heavy Fusion Beam youre dead after few hits. Finally, the fighters. While the Dreadnought has 3x fighters and they have more weapons, they are slower than molasses and the Alien Fighter is going circles around them, hitting with the powerful Fusion Beam.

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I can simulate as many battles as you wish, just make some up, as random as you like:

4 zachit fighters + 3 zachit aradas vs 5 pirate argosies and 3 pirate corvettes

Something like that.

You are right about the cruiser though. In fact, we had a massive debate about this a few years back, and some guy did in fact simulate the Alien/Voinian battle, it took ages but the cruiser won eventually.

What about...

rebels and confeds (one of each ship) vs Voinians and UE (one of each ship, but no dreadnought for the Voinians and no cruiser for UE)

1 manta
1 destroyer
1 rebel cruiser
1 patrol ship
1 gunboat
1 frigate
1 confed cruiser

against

1 fighter
1 destroyer
1 carrier
1 V heavy fighter
1 interceptor
1 frigate
1 cruiser

My bet's on the EVO bunch, because they're more varied in weapons and the Voinians have armour not shields, whereas the rebels and confeds are practically identical.

--gav

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Originally posted by pistgavin:
**Remember the old EV vs EVO battles? Who would win between:

3 kestrels vs 2 Crescent Warships

--gav

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Crescent warships easily just because the Kestrel pilots would look at them and be blinded by there beauty and would fly into each other. They are absolutely gorgeous ships and the Kestrels shouldent be allowed to scratch there lovely blue black paint work. Ahh if only they were in Nova Shame about the chubby crescent fighters though.

TheRedeemer

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Originally posted by TheRedeemer:
**Crescent warships easily just because the Kestrel pilots would look at them and be blinded by there beauty and would fly into each other. They are absolutely gorgeous ships and the Kestrels shouldent be allowed to scratch there lovely blue black paint work. Shame about the chubby crescent fighters though.

TheRedeemer

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No, they wouldnt give up fighting just because Crescent Warships look good. Then Igazras would give up on Azdara swarms just becuase they look like birds. Youre right, Crescent Fighters are very poorly armed compared to Lightnings. Theyre much faster though.

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Originally posted by General Cade Smart:
**No, they wouldnt give up fighting just because Crescent Warships look good.:p Then Igazras would give up on Azdara swarms just becuase they look like birds. Youre right, Crescent Fighters are very poorly armed compared to Lightnings. Theyre much faster though.

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Whats speed to them if they get nearly cut down with a heavy rocket on the way in, then finished off with a couple missles on the way out?
And since we're talking about AI control, an Igazra might as well give up against the Azdaras...
Why did the Kestrel get in Nova, instead of the CW?

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Originally posted by Lizard Blade:
**Whats speed to them if they get nearly cut down with a heavy rocket on the way in, then finished off with a couple missles on the way out?
And since we're talking about AI control, an Igazra might as well give up against the Azdaras...
Why did the Kestrel get in Nova, instead of the CW?

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Umm, Heavy Rockets are inaccurate and Missiles are designed for another game where ships are weaker and are thus not so powerful. I dont Igazras should give up, 5 Phase Turrets fires fast enough to pulverize them before they can attack. And Kestrel did get because its the the first powerful civilian ship, nostalgia.

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