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    • Monty Pythoning?


      Could someone please enlighten me as to WTF this is? I'm too lazy to trawl the forums 🙂

      Thanks

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    • The Monty Python is when you circle around the enemy, shooting turrets or missiles. The computer will not attack you ( at least I don't think). Your laser range is longer than his.

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    • I think it's less about circling the enemy than about running away from him, while just keeping him in range of your weapons. It works for against any ship slower than your own, as they will follow you, but won't fire back. "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day." The name comes from, you guessed it, Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.

      I have trawled the forums, and seen several discussions about whether MP is a legitimate strategy or an outright cheat. Some say it would work in real life, some say it's taking advantage of a glitch in the AI. Purely personal. At any rate, that discussion is a horse that died long ago, and is now no more than a collection of dry, sun-bleached bones. It doesn't need to be beaten any more.

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    • Bastard, you are mostly right. When you can move into a position where your weapons can hit an AI ship, but the AI will not fire until you move just a wee bit closer, is called MPing. It is more a glitch in the AI than anything, I believe. While it is a cheap strategy that probably wouldn't be possible in real life (the AI makes no attempt to close the gap or widen it out of your range), it is a possibility for EV:O, if you feel like using it. It takes a bit of getting used to, to find that certain distance. but when you find it, even the Dreadnought falls easily.

      And welcome to the boards! Read the guidelines, don't capitalize the f in forge, and have fun! 😄

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      (This message has been edited by Payback37 (edited 12-30-2001).)

    • I used MP for a long time before I came here and found it had a name and a horde of people for and against it. I never thought about it being cheap, or a cheat, just accepted this was how the game works. Sometimes it seems the only way to take on a huge fleet.

      I read the guidelines, saw someone else get in trouble with forge for just what you said, and I'm having fun. Thank you! I like your signature btw.

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      (This message has been edited by Valiant Bastard (edited 12-31-2001).)

    • Does anyone know where the got the name Monty Python for the move?

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      (This message has been edited by RSS SPECTIR (edited 03-09-2002).)

    • "run away, run away!"

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    • I never saw the movie, im guessing that was something from the movie 🙂

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    • I watched it 1.5 times this weekend (the 16.5th and 17th time respectivly), and it really is a fitting name...

      "Run away! Run away!"

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      Originally posted by LoneStar5:
      **"run away, run away!"
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      I prefer the sound of "Advance to the rear!"

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    • I use generous combinations of the Monty Python and the orbit maneuver- circle the ship, always being on its side or rear (it'll try to aim, making this possible), constantly pounding it. Works only on ships that have only forward-firing weapons.

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    • This technique can save your a** if you are a fighter or small vessel. It is probably one of the if not the best techniques for fighting in the game.

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    • To tell the truth, AI ships stop when I'm MPing them fairly often. I am using version 1.0, and I'm not sure that that doesn't affect it, but Voinian Frigates and Cruisers in the few missions I have to blow them up just stop in space if I try to MP them. Ah well, it's more fun to go toe-to-toe with them anyway. 🙂 Heck, that's the only way most of my ships CAN

    • "Run a way! Run a way!" that's what I always used to do when it came MP-ing an enemy fleet.

      Of course it was a pain if you had a ship very fast compared to others because they would stop whenever you were too fast and to make them chase you again, you'd have to stop too or slow down enough to make them think that they can catch up with you.

      Monty Pythoning a squad of fighters? Hmmm I guess it could work, you have to have a ship that's almost just as fast as fighters or faster. I hate it when I'm brought down by a squad of fighters so what I do is just have them chase me. Most of the time you can't kill fighters is because they attack your flank, so when they chase me, I make sure that they stay on a parallel course to mine as long as I can and then I spank the daylights out of them, sometimes a bunch at a time like a cow swatting flies off its back. I'd say MP-ing works here too in a certain kind of way, don't you?