Whoa, am I just the supreme mug-wump here? Am I the only one who finds battling swarms of azdaras fun? (I really really really like lotsa explosions, and azdaras die QUICK..)

Why yall complaining about the Igadzra's range advantage? WHY ARE YOU BATTLING IT AT LONG RANGE!? Get in there and FIGHT!

I must admit though, Zidaras would be a problem, and yall forgot the fact they're nearly always in packs...

Dreadnaught? HA! Too slow! My destroyer made mince-meet of ole Mr. Thunder-Butt!

I can't say much about V. Interceptors... I don't meet them very often.. But I like that little comment CosmicFungus made about shuttles.. Quote of Alien 5672 to his ranking officer: I CAN'T BLOODY HELP IT IF DA DERNED FOOL GOT IN THE GODDESS DAMNED CROSS-FIRE!!!

Zachit are dangerous. 'Nuff said. And I think I'd get a guilt trip from destroying an Elmalghaian ship.. They have wooden hulls for Goddess's sake!

As for Thunder, get blaze turrents and, if you have a ship with multiple turrent positions turn sideways as they come at you and aim for something behind them. Blaze turrents 'push' their targets a bit, hence slowing the mad little buggers, and have a very decent spray radius. Try it out, it's saved my big Hinwar butt more then once.

As for the Disco Bison.. I laugh at your futile attempts. Hey Overrider, if you're having problems with those homing flashing erkers, work for the Zidagar and get their ECM systems.. and then they'll go round and round and round..

WOW this is a long post!
Alien

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Originally posted by Alien 5672:
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Why yall complaining about the Igadzra's range advantage? WHY ARE YOU BATTLING IT AT LONG RANGE!? Get in there and FIGHT!
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Um... taking on an Igazra "toe-to-toe" (ie without dodging it's weapons, just getting in close and hitting it with everything you have) is pretty damn suicidal in anything except another Igazra, an upgraded UE Cruiser, or a Voinian warship. They are close to impossible to destroy in something like a Zidara, Lazira or lower because their turrets mysteriously outrange yours in some versions of Override. As such, you can't dodge their fire at all and quickly die due to your ship'd inferior shielding.

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Now listen here all you need is an fully Upgraded U.E Cruiser maxed out with neutron turrets and you can take on anything in the game except for Azdgari Warship's. I tell you when one of them attack me i just sit back and wacth my ship go boom. But except for them anything in the game is toast including Igazras i just get my Fighters to go in and weaken it then i just go in and finish it off :).

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Originally posted by Mazca:
**Um... taking on an Igazra "toe-to-toe" (ie without dodging it's weapons, just getting in close and hitting it with everything you have) is pretty damn suicidal in anything except another Igazra, an upgraded UE Cruiser, or a Voinian warship. They are close to impossible to destroy in something like a Zidara, Lazira or lower because their turrets mysteriously outrange yours in some versions of Override. As such, you can't dodge their fire at all and quickly die due to your ship'd inferior shielding.
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Who said anything about toe-to-toe? I'm saying that long range doesn't work with these guys! You have to get close, fire afterburners, and circle em!

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1. 4 Adzgari warships
2. 3 Adzgari warships
3. 2 Adzgari warships
4. 1 Adzgari warship
5. Azdaras

Guess which mission i'm on at the mo.

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Originally posted by Alien 5672:
**Who said anything about toe-to-toe? I'm saying that long range doesn't work with these guys! You have to get close, fire afterburners, and circle em!

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That's the point - it doesnt work on my version. The phase bolts are too fast and long-ranged on Igazras - they track you anyway and smoosh you.

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ears ree

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Originally posted by Mazca:
**That's the point - it doesnt work on my version. The phase bolts are too fast and long-ranged on Igazras - they track you anyway and smoosh you.

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Really? That's odd.. What version do you have? I'm running on 1.0.2., and lemme tell ya a trick of mine..

This actually works best with something like a Lazira as your own ship, because of it's high speed and above-average turning speed.. Have afterburners, speed and turning upgrades, and Azdagari upgrades help as well. Rush at the Igazra, occasionally tapping the afterburner. The Igazra's computer will get confused as it tries to predict you, and will fire the turrents out the back of the ship in hopes of catching you as you retreat! BUT you won't do that! Right as you're about to pass over the Igazra, pull a hard turn, and punch the afterburners!! At the worst, you will be nicked a few times as you fly off..

One crazy pilot,
Alien

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I'm running 1.0.2 as well... I've given up trying to fix the bug. The only "tactic" I now use on Igazras is to load up a Lazira or Zidara with full phase turrets and 3 disp. launchers and hold down autopilot and both weapon fire keys... usually the Igazra goes "bang" before the Zidara goes "bang".

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Originally posted by tennis shoe2000:
**The disco Bison:

The first time I fought it I thought it was a wimp trader. so I got up to it and fired away, I noticed two things:
1. Hey its sheild bar isnt moving!
2. Hey, mine is and he doesnt seem to be using any kind of special weapon.
and when I decided my sheild was getting too low I ran, but the damn thing has rang like nobodys bussiness!
3. ****! I didnt save!

-tennis shoe

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The Disco Bison is the meanest ship ever built in the game, it even has a custom weapon the Disco Machine Gun , I ResEdited a DMG onto my ship once, solved my problem with missions involving multiple Turncoats or Crescent Warships (still turned into a liquid by the Disco Bison).

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The Disco lovin' dance freak is the equilizer in Elmalgha weakness. It makes up where our wooden comrads fail..

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Seeing as how I did a little tweaking of my own with my data files to make the Igazra's plasma siphon turn the Dreadnaught into Voinan jelly in one blow, I'd have to say the Igazra. Good thing I gave myself one.

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Using my Azdara, I hate:
Zidagar - deadly
Aradas - Laziras and Crescent warships are far easier when it comes to dodging rockets
Igazras (When there are very few asteroids)
Dreadnought - Takes far too long and one mistake means I have to do it again
Voinians are generally easy though - If I'm hit with a rocket it knocks me back to safety

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What are y'all moanin' about igazras fireing superphase? I use version 1.0.0, and nigh - on everything fires phase a double range. Even miranu. :eek:
1.0.0 might also be the reason I never have to face the Disco Bison - for some reason, that ship simply does not exist in my version - I'd love to take it on one day.

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Believe it or not - Kraits! In large numbers, that is. Two, three or so at a time are simply an annoyance/waste of energy, but in some missions into Renegade space, you get swarmed by 'em and it's kinda like fighting wasps...or fire ants.

Now, I freely admit that I've held meself aloof from the fighting in the Strands because I think that the Voinians are a bigger danger to UE, so I have little experience in fighting the various Strand ships. But I have a Crescent Warship with 2 Blaze and a Phase turret, plus a front swivel phase cannon, Hunter and Needle missle launchers (and the usual thrust, engine and RCS upgrades, etc.) and - while it took me three or four attempts to do so, I took down the Voinian Dreadnaught. Shoot - back when I was running a FE Freighter-Courier, I could take down Voinian Frigates and Cruisers without raising a sweat. The trick is to lure them away from their mother ships, let them waste their unguided rockets against rocks, and then kill them. And then go back and pick off the big boys. Voinian ships can't turn worth a tinker's dam! All you have to do is circle around and keep hitting them where it hurts the worst. Goddess Bless, when I took down the Dreadnaught, I practically had my shields regenerated by the time it made a 360 turn!

Jake
Owner and Captain on board the Crescent Warship "Tsing Lung"

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Funny, but when I got off line and got back into EVO, I was attacked by a Lazira...

I'm still in the game and the Laz went limping home to momma, only because it hit the panic button!

Regards,

Jake

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What's the deal with the Igadzra? I also have double range firing bug with the Igadzra, but the Monty will still work on it. You just have to be very carefull not to pull ahead of the target too fast. I prefer to take it on in a Lazira, so if I do trigger the Igadzra's turrets I can make a hasty retreat.

I hate taking on one or two Zachit fighters with a Zachit Arada. They beat me to a pulp with missles, and then swarm me so I can't pick out a single ship long enough to take it out.

(edit message)Monty will work in rare cases on the Bison.

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Any UE ships if you're playing Voinian. Those damn hunters don't seem like they do much until twenty of them start chasing after you :mad:

I agree, anything Azdgari is a pain. Zidaras aren't that bad, but they can get annoying real quick if you try and fight more than one. Igazras aren't that hard to beat, though the only times I've ever tried to beat them were in a upgraded UEC and a Voinian Frigate.

Crescent Fighters and Renegade Aradas are evil if you have anything less than a medium sized warship.

Above all else, I'm glad I always fight WITH the Zachit rather than against

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1.Phased beamers don't do anything.
2.azdaras don't do anything.
3. I HATE VIONIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(anything gray and red)(not U.E.) :mad:
4. I HATE RENAGADES!!!!!!!!(all kinds) :mad:
5. I HATE ZIDAGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (there anoying)
thats it

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Ships I hate to fight against
1. Dreadnought
2. Igadzra, I hate those turrets.
3. Disco Bison, though by now I just learn to leave it alone.
4. Zidagar in general, not because of them being hard, but after playing htem all the time, I feel loyalty to them.

NO more, most of the ships are ok, hard perhaps, but it's fun to find a way to kill the superior ships.

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(quote)Originally posted by ProtoformX:
**(edit message)Monty will work in rare cases on the Bison.:p

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