I'm wondering if this belongs on B&B;, but I'm putting it here anyway.

Name an EVO ship or weapon and then name what you think what EV ship resembles its qualities/traits the most, and you can also post those certain qualilties. I have a few myself:

Krait; Defender. Small, fast, weak, blown up by a single rocket.
Crescent Warship; Slightly Modified Kestrel. Moderately fast, fighter bay, long-range projectiles, and even physical shape.
Voinian Heavy Fighter; Confed Patrol ship. 3 cannons and a small load of projectiles, with a less than appriciated speed level, achieved only from missions.
Voinian interceptor; Confed Junkboat. Less than appriciated speed, 2 cannons, a small load of projectiles, achieved only from missions.
Lazira; Corvette. Decent speed, firepower, and cargo, with similar defense capabilities.
Shuttle; Shuttle. Name, speed, cargo, defense, even cost.
Scoutship; Scoutship. Same as with the shuttle.
Miranu Courier; Courier. Speed, defense, weapons, and cargo.
Miranu H. Freighter; Bulk Freighter. Cargo, speed, and fuel, as well as size.
Feighter; Light Freighter. Speed, cargo, armament, and defensive capabilities.
UE Fighter; Manta. Moderate main weapons, 2 projectiles, speed, shields, carried in a bay, achieved only from missions.
UE Destroyer; Rebel Destroyer. Good speed, moderate shielding, long range projectiles, rockets, achieved only from missions.
UE Carrier; Escort Carrier. Size, speed, shields, fighter bay, a few projectiles.
UE Cruiser; Rebel Cruiser. Decent speed, long-range projectiles, rockets, fighter bay, circular center, achieved only from missions.
Voinian Frigate; Confed Frigate. Slow, two turrets, good defense, lots of projectiles.
Voinian Cruiser; Confed Cruiser. Very slow, BIG, lots of projectiles, 4 slow sucky fighters, good defense, overexpensive, achieved only from missions.
Renegade Arada; Rapier. Decent speed, shields, projectiles.
Zachit Fighter; Lightning. Small, fast, low shields, missiles, barely any armor.
Neutron Cannon; Proton cannon. Good damage, firing rate, and range, and used primarily by the bad guys.
Neutron/Phase turret; Proton Turret. Good damage, firing rate, range, mass, used by both sides, as well as a certain popular warship commonly used on both games.
Rocket/huntermissile; Missile/torpedo/rocket. Used by both sides commonly.
Blaze Cannon; Laser Cannon. Used by good guys, relatively strong, cheap, even mass.
Blaze/Phase Turret; Laser turret. Used by a few favorite vessel of pirates, as well as poor defenseless cargo ships in sets of 1 or 2 (much to the joy of pirates).

I appologize for the length of the post. Please don't regard it as spamming.

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The UE Cruiser is far better than the rebel cruiser. And I reckon the Kestrel is a lot better than a Crescant Warship, more like an Igazra.
And the Corvette is just as good as a Crescant Warship.

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(This message has been edited by Jess (edited 04-29-2001).)

Hmmm. Well I wouldn't say a Rebel Cruiser with 500 shields, 2 missile launchers, 4 Mantas, 3 Proton Turrets, and some rockets is better than a UE Cruiser with 300 shields and less armament. And actually a Kestrel is about the same with the CW in many respects, including shape even. The Corvette isn't nearly equal to a CW for a few things: smaller, less armament, much less shields. But it IS more maneuverable and costs far less.

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(This message has been edited by ESPilot (edited 04-29-2001).)

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Originally posted by ESPilot:
**I'm wondering if this belongs on B, but I'm putting it here anyway.

Name an EVO ship or weapon and then name what you think what EV ship resembles its qualities/traits the most, and you can also post those certain qualilties. I have a few myself:

**

Anything is fine as long as it has to do with EVO, heck even polls. The only time I would move something is if it asked "Should the US apoligize to China", "Should abortion be legal", "Who is you favorite member"...etc

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I have quite a low opinion of the CW. It's cheap for a warship, but it isn't very strong, fast or maneuverable. It doesn't even have that much space.

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"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things, well known fact."
-Granny Weatherwax

Jess, you seem to prefer EV ships a lot.

UE Fighter, Lightning - Both have rocket type weapons, reasonable but not blinding
speed, and are deadly early on.

Voinian Heavy Fighter, Rapier - Both have rocket type weapons, both aren't very
dangerous at long range (AI Rapier, I mean) and both are quite slow with good
armour.

UE Destroyer, Corvette - Both are reasonable; early on. Later on you'll find both
are horribly weak. Both of them have missiles and rockets (EV generally has more
projectiles on a ship, so I'm not counting jav. rockets)

UE Carrier, Escort Carrier - I agree with ESPilot. Both are the weakest carrier
possible, and both are horrible at close range.

Lazira, Enh. Corvette - Both are dangerous, but not the best.

Miranu Gunship, Reb. Destroyer - Both are fast and good at long range. Similar size.

Crescent Fighter, Manta - Both are triangular, fast and with little weapons.

Arada, Corvette - Just my opinion, but the Arada is larger than it looks.

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Fear not the dragon,
Fear not the wolf,
Fear not the warship,
Fear my Crescent Fighter.

I like EVO ships, but most of them have one irritating weakness, while EV ships are good all rounders. My favourites are the Rebel Cruiser, the Confed. Cruiser, the Corvette, the Rapier and the Kestrel (it's sooo good).
EV also runs much faster than EVO, and I like the challenge of battling when the opponent is a blur. This could be because I only have version 1.0 of EVO, but one thing that always irritates me about it is how slow it is compared to EV.
EVO ships look cooler, though

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"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things, well known fact."
-Granny Weatherwax

I kind of noticed the simularites between the EV and the EVO ships. You can match the some of the Voinian ships to Confed, and some of the UE ships to the Rebels.
Also you can find this simularity in some plugs, such as Frozen Heart. Riegel (sp?) to Confed, Magellan (sp?) to Rebel, Icax to lightning, Snow Goose to clipper, etc.

Frozen Heart is slightly different. It's not a simple matter of "those ships are
similar".

All that changes really is the graphics.

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Fear not the dragon,
Fear not the wolf,
Fear not the warship,
Fear my Crescent Fighter.

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Originally posted by ESPilot:
UE Cruiser; Rebel Cruiser. Decent speed, long-range projectiles, rockets, fighter bay, circular center, achieved only from missions.

I'd say the UE cruiser handles more like a Confederate cruiser than a Rebel one.

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Originally posted by ESPilot:
Voinian Frigate; Confed Frigate. Slow, two turrets, good defense, lots of projectiles.
Voinian Cruiser; Confed Cruiser. Very slow, BIG, lots of projectiles, 4 slow sucky fighters, good defense, overexpensive, achieved only from missions.

Personally, I find the Confederate ships significantly more effective than their Voinian counterparts. The lack of guided weapons on the Voinian ships probably has a lot to do with it.

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Originally posted by Jess:
**I have quite a low opinion of the CW. It's cheap for a warship, but it isn't very strong, fast or maneuverable. It doesn't even have that much space.
**

It's not all that great, is it? Of course, the first thing everyone does is sell the CFs and their bay, so it doesn't really cost 9m, but a little over 7m. Personally, I'd also get rid of the SADs.

Realistically, the CW is a useful step, because until you've rescued Anna B., or worked for the Iggies, or similar, what else can you fly around in? I think the Arada (and perhaps the Lazira) are a little too cheap. By the time you can afford a CW, you're ready for a change... even if it is into an unattractive blue barge of a ship.

What's your normal ship-ownership path? Mine's:

• Shuttle (duh)

• UE Transporter

• Arada

• (Used to get and equip a Lazira to stop Hector raiding my bank account - no longer necessary because I've registered.)

• Crescent Warship

• Igazra

Other variations include getting a UE Cruiser in place of the Iggy, but I prefer the supersonic banana. When I was a beginner I used to get a scoutship instead of the Transporter... just a conditioned response based on original EV.

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(This message has been edited by VoinianAmbassador (edited 04-30-2001).)

Shuttle
Scoutship
Helian
Freight-Courier
Miranu Courier
Miranu Frieghter
Crescant Warship
UE Cruiser/Igazra

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"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things, well known fact."
-Granny Weatherwax

Mine is:

Shuttle
Scoutship
UE Fighter - UE missions.
Scoutship - Paaren. Grr.....
UE Fighter - UE missions
Arada
Crescent Fighter
Crescent Warship*
Igazra/UE Cruiser/Zidara*

• Optional. Often I stay with my Crescent Fighter.

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Fear not the dragon,
Fear not the wolf,
Fear not the warship,
Fear my Crescent Fighter.

why do you need to have a scoutship for pareen? If it's for the cargo, can't you afford a better ship? Like the freight-Courier....... it's one of my faves.

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"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things, well known fact."
-Granny Weatherwax

Shuttle
Scoutship
Helian
Freight-courier

then either
UE Destroyer
Crescent Warship

or Arada

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Shuttle
Scoutship (i get it quick since I know how to make fast money)
Arada/Lazira
Kestrel (is it me or is something wrong there?)
UE Cruiser (after doing the mission)
CW/Zidara

You might say the Kestrel is better than the CW, blah blah blah, and it can be when properly upgraded, but look at this:

Kestrel:130 shields
CW: 250 shields
Kestrel: 50 armor
CW: 40 armor
Kestrel: 120 free mass
CW: 30
Kestrel: 80 cargo
CW: 70 cargo
Kestrel: 225 speed, 3 maneuver, 375 excel
oh screw it. If I keep going on the specs will get better and better for Kestrel.

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Why settle for a $3 pound of pork meat, when you can get up to 50+ pounds of human meat free?

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Originally posted by Jess:
**Shuttle
Scoutship
Helian
Freight-Courier
Miranu Courier
Miranu Frieghter
Crescant Warship
UE Cruiser/Igazra

**

Shuttle
Helian (do the smuggle saalian brandy mission, and you can buy one straight off)
Arada
Lazira
Crescent Warship
UE Cruiser/Azdara/Igadzra

Occasionally, if I'm lucky, I'll get a Voinian Cruiser and kick crescent @$$ with it.

jon

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