The Voinians have the capability to completely wipe out the UE and Emalgha with one simple act; put another neutron turret on the Voinian frigate. Or, if that doesn't work, put an extra layer of dospect, and if you can put it on, Bronov, on all Voinian ships. Then, the UE wouldn't stand a chance, and the Voinians would wipe them out. The Voinians could make a lot of small tweaks to their ships, and then the entire balance of power would be tilted in their favor. Maybe I'll make a plug-in for this....

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Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur:
**The Voinians have the capability to completely wipe out the UE and Emalgha with one simple act; put another neutron turret on the Voinian frigate. Or, if that doesn't work, put an extra layer of dospect, and if you can put it on, Bronov, on all Voinian ships. Then, the UE wouldn't stand a chance, and the Voinians would wipe them out. The Voinians could make a lot of small tweaks to their ships, and then the entire balance of power would be tilted in their favor. Maybe I'll make a plug-in for this....
**

And the UE could outfit thier ships with Doposect armor and Nuteron weaponry, stalemating it again. Plus, they could put another turrent on the Carrier and Cruisers. Plus, they could trade with the Miran for crecent technology, allowing them to get much better shields and speed/manuverability too. But the voinians can't, because in the EVO documentation it says that "The miran have tried to open trade with as many races as possible... ...and to the west lies the Voinian empire, which remains rigidly xenophobic in this matter". So I guess if you act like a bunch of jerks, it comes back to bite you in the ass.

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Only one thing needs to be said regarding a (url="http://"http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~dsghosh/evosite/shipyard2.html#vcruiser")Voinian Cruiser(/url): in an AI vs. AI battle, a (url="http://"http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~dsghosh/evosite/shipyard1.html#uecruiser")UE Cruiser(/url) can smash it easily. And when I've piloted the UE Cruiser, I've taken out three V. Cruisers at a time before. It's not much of a contest...

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It's plain and simple. Ship-wise, UE wins hands down..

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But then again, when I piloted a Voinian Cruiser, I could take down 3 UE Cruisers. At the very least.

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The voinian's are the best because look at it the UE couldn't even beat them with their own technology until the player comes along and uniteseveryone against them so comeon the voinian's rule and they kick@$$ if you upgrade them

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Originally posted by shayborg:
**Only one thing needs to be said regarding a Voinian Cruiser: in an AI vs. AI battle, a UE Cruiser can smash it easily. And when I've piloted the UE Cruiser, I've taken out three V. Cruisers at a time before. It's not much of a contest...

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I have to remember some things that have been said before (in UE vs Voinian Thread):
-the UE Cruiser isn't comparable with the Voinian Cruiser because the UE cruiser appears after missions, the V. Cruiser not (they just have the same name). It's like saying a Voinian dreadnough can kill an UE carrier.
-do not say anything in human vs AI battle: of course the human always win
When human will be able to battle against humans, we will be able to compare human skills

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Another thing about the UE Cruiser is that it's obviously hard to produce, and thus does not appear much. So, the UE must rely on the UE carrier as their main warship. However, the UE Carrier can only win against the Voinian cruiser when there is no asteroids, and in almost all UE vs. Voinian battlefields, there are asteroids. And did anyone notice that there are a lot of Voinian Cruisers? That means that the Voinians obviously have much more resources to build such large and formidable warships.

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Originally posted by Alien 5672:
**Ugh.. 'Don't hate Voinians' 'Don't misspell their name' 'Don't this' 'Don't that'..
Please, we can all hate whoever we please. Tis a freeworld and it's only a game!
**

Its a free world, thats the kind of excuse second graders use. Its a free world as long as it remains free for everyone else. Voinians are oppresers? Your no better Alein.

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Originally posted by Alien 5672:
**It's plain and simple. Ship-wise, UE wins hands down..
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Ship-wise, you are wrong about the Voinians hands down. Their ships are awesome. Have to ever taken out four Igazras in a UE Cruiser all the while inside the enemy ships weapons range and ONLY firing secondary weapons? I've done that dozens of times with a Voinian Cruiser. The UE have already expanded their ships to their limits, they can't go any furthur, and if they did, it wouldn't make much difference. However, Voinian ships have plenty of room for slight expansions, and any one of those expansions could easily make them win. So, it is obvious that Voinian ships are superior, however the Voinians just haven't expanded or upgraded them much recently. On the other hand, the UE have been upgrading their ships to the max, and yet they can only barely keep the Voinians at bay.

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Damn it! Damn it to hell!

I was almost done typing a nice long reply to recent posts, and F***ed up Netscape quits on me! I am so damn sick of this ****! I'm already giving it a HUGE amount of RAM and it keeps quitting!

Wow, that had nothing to do with this topic. Okay... lemme start over again...sigh...

ARRRRRRRGHH!!!!!!!! IT JUST DID IT AGAIN!

God Damn this infernal machine! I expect better from my computer. I have tried 3 times, and before i can type 3 f***ing words Netscape quits on me! I am incredibly pissed off right now...

Okay...I'm gonna try Internet Explorer now...

I agree with recent posts on this topic about not comparing the UE Cruiser to the Voinian Cruiser. The 2 ships are not the equivalent of one another and should not be compared, with people saying stuff like "I killed a Voinian Cruiser in my UE Cruiser". OF COURSE YOU WOULD! Voinian Cruisers are the equivalent of UE Carriers. The UE Cruiser is the counterpart of the Voinian Dreadnought, not Cruiser. On a more positive note, everyone seems to be clear that the Frigate is comparable to the Destroyer.
I also agree with people who are saying that the UE seems to be trying quite hard to maintain their position in the war. They are constantly upgrading their ships and making new designs, while the Voinians are using designs that appear to be very old, yet still good ("Oldies but Goodies" ).
I would also like to say, in response to people who were commenting on this topic's length, that i like how my little old topic has grown into a big thread.
As always, dont hate on the Voinians.

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Originally posted by BattleDoctor:
**I would also like to say, in response to people who were commenting on this topic's length, that i like how my little old topic has grown into a big thread.
As always, dont hate on the Voinians.

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Strange. Just after you say that, no more answers, since 10 days.
The Voinians have better ships because they had time to design them, while the UE was forced to design their warships from scratch in a very short time. However, now the front is stabilised, they outfit their ships to the max because UE is rich, while the decaying Voinian Empire can't even maintain two turrets on their supply ships (see the supply ship's desc.).
And one last thing: before this thread, I thinked "the only good Voinian is a dead Voinian", and so on; and if I would have made a follow for the UE missions, the entire Voinian Empire would have been invaded by the UE. Now I do no longer hate the Voinians, and if I would make a supposition at the end, I say the Voinian Empire, finally weakened by the UE assault would have changed their mind and make peace with the UE (because the Voinians would have "changed" their Emperor to something else

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You've got that right! The Voinians are becoming a dead race. If you go for the Voinians you'll be fighting against Humanity and beyond. If you want to chose the loser side you can do that. But what do you think there going to do when they get past UE? Kill the whole galaxy.

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Uh, if you're so smart, how come you don't even know the name of the station you're
supposed to be on? (Paaren, not 'Pareen')

He was smart enough to deflect to the un-evil side. One guy did that and your whole goverment got messed up because you lost your only technology.

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(quote)Originally posted by BattleDoctor:
**Ya know, I've been looking around this web board, and it seems that the Voinians are not so popular, and not many people openly support them here. It think that this is wrong. The Voinians are cool! People always rant about how they kill innocent people... I say: so what? The Emalgha just suck and need to be smacked down, and all those other races the Voinians conquered were...er...ummmm...well, I can't think of a reason they needed to be killed but the point is that the Voinians are being hated on and it should stop!

Oh, and let it never be said that I am some sort of UE hater, I think that they are good too. Just don't hate on Voinians, so maybe at some point Lonevoinian will be less "Lone" in liking the Voinians.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Well, hating the Voinians is natural when you first play EVO. Just like you naturally hate the Empire in Star Wars...They are big, ruthless, and want nothing more then to destroy your home race. That's why I usually stick with the UE.:)

~Captain Skyblade**

Yes, EV, EVO There is always a goodie (Rebel/UE) and a baddie (Confed/Voinian). Can EVN be less manichean?

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Originally posted by Zacha Pedro:
**Yes, EV, EVO There is always a goodie (Rebel/UE) and a baddie (Confed/Voinian). Can EVN be less manichean?
**

I wouldn't exactly say that. True, the UE seem to be better, but it's only because the intro text was biased against the Voinians. If they were portrayed a little differently, the Voinians would be a lot more popular. However, the Rebels and definitely the goodie, and the Confeds are definitely the baddie.

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Originally posted by Zacha Pedro:
**Yes, EV, EVO There is always a goodie (Rebel/UE) and a baddie (Confed/Voinian). Can EVN be less manichean?
**

I don't think that EV falls into the Manichean category. The Confederation and the Rebellion both have their good side and bad side, regardless of the rebel propaganda in the introductory scroll. The Confederation may have become a bit corrupt, but they never attack civilian shuttlecraft.

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The intro texts are both biased. However, In EV you don't start out biased (like you do in EVO) and you have equal opportunities with both sides. Also both EV mission strings are complete ones. EVO makes it more biased by having the Voinians cut you off suddenly. Overall, there is strong pressure in EVO to fight for the UE, and you end up better off if you do, while in EV you have more choice.

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