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    • Weaknesses of the Igadzra


      Recently I've been dominating a bunch of Igadzra planets, and during the time I was fighting the defense fleets, I noticed several key weaknesses of the Igadzra. Here they are:

      Weakness 1 - The Igazra: I've found that it is in fact, quite easy to Monty Python an Igazra. Simply load up on phase turrets, make sure you're out of its weapons range, try to be going the same speed as the Igazra, and fire away! Already I've used this to dominate several Igadzra worlds, and it works every time. However, it needs a bit of skill to pull it off.

      Weakness 2 - SAE Modules: SAE Modules, while powerful, can be jammed quite easily. Thus, when fighting the Igadzra, all you really have to worry about is the Igazras Dispersal Rockets and Phase Turrets. With Zidagar ECMs, SAEs can't hit your ship period (almost at least).

      Weakness 3 - The Igadzra Arada: Of all the Aradas that I have seen, not counting the merchant or standard Arada, the Igadzra Arada is the worst of them all. Its SAEs can be jammed, its extra shielding doesn't help much, and its phase cannons are nill against Voinian armor. This is one reason Igadzra planets are sometimes easy to dominate; the Igadzra Arada stinks.

      Of course, there are probably other weaknesses to the Igadzra, a few of which I know of, but this time I've only listed the ones which I noticed while dominating planets and which weaknesses help you to dominate planets.

      Comments?

      -Captain Carnotaur

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    • 4: Igazras tend to travel alone and are therefore easy prey for groups of ships such as Zidaras.

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    • Igazras are really slow, and need something like the phased beam or igadzra beam on them all the time. Currently, from siding with Igadzra and Zidagar I've got a phased beam on my igazra, and it is about the best ship to use it on, as it still has 4 phase turrets, and it has 10 jumps of fuel with the two externals. This is much much better than the Zidara's situation, plus the igazra has no fighters which is always a plus! The main problem is that SAD/Es are pathetic and just spin around aimlessly, not to mention weigh a lot and cost a lot. This all means that an igazra stripped of all that has massive amounts of space to use for upgrades. So I think it is the worst strand warship as it stands, but probably the best warship for upgrading.

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    • I think that Igadzra are the hardest space to conquer overall. With a plasma syphon and my six turret slots on the Voinian crusier Azdara drop like flies. As long as you approch Zidigar ships from the side the rarly use their phased beam.

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    • I acually like the Igadzra. The Igazara is acually my favorite ship.

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    • Yep, I'm starting to find it the best too. The only problem is that I don't like SAEs and I don't like having fighters, so it's very hard to fill up all their space :). I've just dominated Neslaut with my Igazra, and think I'll only trade it in for a Voinian cruiser.

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    • Dont go for those clumzy ships, pick an azdara, thats what i call flying 🙂

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    • That's what I call dying :). Trying to use one in the early azdgari missions like they want you to is just a pain.. I mean if the 1 ton of cargo space wasn't bad enough, the inability to survive a dispersal rocket or a short barrage of phase fire doesn't appeal. Of course I've never tried one with the proper upgrades, but that type of fighting just isn't for me. Much nicer hanging around in a big, well upgraded ship, and just complaining when they send 18 azdaras in your direction :).

      Anyway, dominating the Azdgari systems is easy enough when they just send out normal azdaras - one at a time who's gonna be scared. Mind you the same probably goes for the Igadzra ones when you're wearing a Zidagar ECM :).

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      (This message has been edited by MartiNZ (edited 02-11-2001).)

    • (quote)Originally posted by MartiNZ:
      **That's what I call dying:)

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    • Quote

      Originally posted by MartiNZ:
      **That's what I call dying:). Trying to use one in the early azdgari missions like they want you to is just a pain.. I mean if the 1 ton of cargo space wasn't bad enough, the inability to survive a dispersal rocket or a short barrage of phase fire doesn't appeal. Of course I've never tried one with the proper upgrades, but that type of fighting just isn't for me. Much nicer hanging around in a big, well upgraded ship, and just complaining when they send 18 azdaras in your direction :).
      **

      Get the following upgrades:
      1-Dospect
      2-Shield Regenerator
      3-Experimental Shield Regenerator

      And you have yourself an invinci-ship.

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      Originally posted by widowmaker:
      **I think that Igadzra are the hardest space to conquer overall. With a plasma syphon and my six turret slots on the Voinian crusier Azdara drop like flies. As long as you approch Zidigar ships from the side the rarly use their phased beam.
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      Are you kidding? With a Voinian cruiser, the Igadzra are just nice mince meat for my guns. As you can see by the weaknesses of the Igadzra that I listed, dominating Igadzra space isn't that bad.

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      Originally posted by Opalius:
      **Dont go for those clumzy ships, pick an azdara, thats what i call flying:)
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      No way! Voinian Cruisers rule! And they aren't clumsey. Slow, but with speed/maneuver upgrades it's pretty fast.

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    • Pretty fast? <laughs and laughs>

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    • Yes, the Iggies really aren't that great.. Every Strand has it's weakness..

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      Originally posted by Cazic Thule:
      **Pretty fast? <laughs and laughs>
      **

      I can fly circles around Zidaras, Azdgari Warships, and just about every single other warship in the EVO galaxy with my Voinian cruiser.

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    • The only way you can do that is to be far away and and do long circles. The other weakness of the Igazra is that they don't like being together. Much harder to capture ships with an Igadzra than with a UE Crusier or Voinian Crusier. Plus, they don't have a fighter, and if the SAEs are jammed, all it has is Phase Turrets. Fighters could get to the target quickly and do a lot of damage.

      (This message has been edited by DeadMan (edited 02-11-2001).)

    • What the Igadzra really need is some sort of fighter...

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      Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur:
      **No way! Voinian Cruisers rule! And they aren't clumsey. Slow, but with speed/maneuver upgrades it's pretty fast.

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      Pretty fast!!!!

      You are saying the cruiser is pretty fast

      ***Laughing his arse of 😄

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    • Seriously, for a the second best warship in the game it can go relatively fast. I'm not saying they are extremely fast like a Zidara or anything, but they are much faster than the normal Voinian cruiser, but I must admit that they could be a bit faster (the maneuverability is nice, but not the speed).

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    • Well, iz still one sloooowww ship..

      And fighters are just against the Igadzra personality... so there's one of their flaws!

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    • The only good thing about the Igadzra are their SAE Modules, but they are utterly useless against the Zidagar. Even with the Azdgari, I find their use is limited. You know you aren't working for the right Gov when their best weapon doesn't work for you.....

      I like the Zachit, Zidagar, and Azdgari, but the Igadzra are the one strand I really don't care for.

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