REDchigh goes to Zidigar, and has a nice talk with the Zidigar Engineers that made a "Zidigar Dreadnaught" (The Phase blaster in my hand didn't mean a thing..). The Engineers quickly stopped all manufacturing of the "Dreadnaughts" (there were already 15 dreadnaughts built, they can stay) and they have a new Phase beamer developed by the next day. The new Phase beamer is now a lot more powerful than the original beamer, and at the same price. The New phase beamer does about 8x more damage.

Note to Titan- These were paid for w/ my PERSONAL credit stash, so no allies can get these, and they are only to be installed on ships that i approve of, and after raids, i get them back. The installation of the new phase beamer also incudes a warhead infused w/ the armor, so that the second the shields are down and anything barely touches the armor, the ship will destroy any ships within a 10,000 mile range. I replace my phase beamers on my Zidar w/ the REDchigh phase beamer, and add one more. I now have 4 redchigh phase beamers.

BTW, yes i claimed the NT renegade space, and all of my phase beamers are hidden in my lair. whoever is interested, i might have some renegade ships for sale that i won't need, and everyone knows the rock is famous for having upgrades...

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Titan makes 20 more Zidigar dreadnaughts, do I get to use these new phase beam.

Red-chig are you not my CoCommander anymore, if not can we be allies?

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(This message has been edited by Titan (edited 01-26-2001).)

Sorry people, i'm here. And i've tried to catch up with reading the posts but correct me if i make mistakes. As for my absence, just nobody say english, essay, or three pages, eh? I rule with Daedalus on all conflicts. There is no secretion of info on Daedalus' plans and his moderation has been correct. Redchigh, make sure you understand that you only have as much money as the Zidagar have, and Titan verifies any spending.

CONTINUATION: After a week conference in the Kayan Congress, Rooster checks his transmissions. After reviewing Carnotaur's he seems pleased and ponders Carnotaur's high amount of precaution. He then boards the Zodiac. Aeshek: "Morning, Commander. I trust your conference went well?" Rooster: "Yes. We've recieved instructions to proceed to Stror to allocate our new ships." Aeshek: "Aye, sir. Entering hyperspace, estimated arrival in 9 days." Rooster: "Maximize efficiency by burning our plasma reserves. Cut 2 days off our trip if you can." The Zodiac enters hyperspace.

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Originally posted by Titan:
**Titan makes 20 more Zidigar dreadnaughts, do I get to use these new phase beam.

Red-chig are you not my CoCommander anymore, if not can we be allies?

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OK yes, if the Zidigar will ally with a renegade nation, im still your co-commander. also, i destroyed the plans for the zidigar dreadnaught, because it is a bad idea. Zidigar are a good race because they concentrate on numerous small ships w/ good maneuverability and low price. Start building large warships from several zidaras, and 1, you decrease the size of your fleet (like trading 5 azdaras for an ACW- just plain dumb), and Zidigar can beat Igazras and ACWs b/c of their speed. It would be a MUCH better investment to upgrade every Zidigar fighters' maneuverability to be more like an azdara. hmmm.. that is a good idea, but i'm not gonna spend MY credits on it- Titan you can authorize gov't credits for it. Oh, and I don't have much money, and not a whole many ships (compared to the Adzgari), but I am in a good location strategy wise...

one more thing- are the Zacha still attacking my space?

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Carno, how can you still not understand this, you CANNOT spy if there is NOTHING to spy on. Spies can intercept reports from intelligence officers or look through files but if there are no intelligence officers with any knowlege of something, and there are no reports, and there are no files. THEN THEY CAN'T SPY.

Titan, you are limited to 6 dreadnauts and you will see that in your bank account. You wouldn't be able to afford anything else.

REDCHIGH: you may have 10 beamers. It will cost money for research but now you have an income.
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Continuation: In his search for allies, Daedalus contacted Redchigh the renegade.
<Greetings fellow renegade, I wish to form an alliance, what do you say, North and South tip banded together.>

Daedalus sends a transmission to Nova6.
<Transmission Source: Unknown>
<Encrypted>
<Target: Nova6>
<Greeting Nova6, I have been thinking about the humans you have and I request that you free some of them. What I am about to tell you is top secret, I have formed fake alliances with a few governments and they think I am going to save humanity. I know that all I must do is ask you and you will release them. I am going to attack these governments and have built a shipyard for it. But I need crew members, the ships are designed for humans and I work best with a human crew. I have my eye on the Miranu because they are a very rich race. I would encourage you to join me in this venture since you didn't gain anything from your raid on the Kayans. If you need proof of my loyalty, notice I didn't defend the Kayans, I was watching the battle in a cloaked scoutship and laughed as they flew away like flies from a big pile of.. um.. nevermind. But anyway, I would appreciate several thousand humans for my crew. GL to ya.>
<End transmission>

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Message to Redchig: I just wanted a few capital warships that could destroy several Azgari warships, but 15 of these ships is good. Are you at war with the Kayan Alliance? End of message

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :::ECONOMY REPORT::: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Here is the list of how much money indivuals have.

Daedalus (RA):..........................12.25 million + 1 mil/day*
Thunder (Kayans):.......................15 million + 1 mil/day*
Carnotour (Captains):.................39 million
Roostersw:.....................................3 million**
Buba:...............................................2.5 million
Lonevoinian (old UE):....................-5 million + 1 mil/day*
Titan (Zidagar):...............................30 million + 3 mil/day*
Arada Pilot (Agdzari):.....................3.5 million + 5 mil/day*
Nova6 (Voinians):...........................-8 million + 2 mil/day*
Samurai............................................1.5 million
Redchigh (NT Renegades)..........15 million +1 mil/day

• = all days are actual real life days
  ** = I don't remember how much you guys have from missions, just tell me if you should have more or less.

If I missed any people or your money and/or rates seem wrong. Submit your argument and I will make the nessesary changes.

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(This message has been edited by daedalus (edited 01-26-2001).)

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(This message has been edited by daedalus (edited 01-26-2001).)

Sends a group of cloaked Zidara's with Chemical missles on a secret mission againts a secret target.( these chemical missles have the power to kill all living life on a planet, be very afraid!)

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Who invented chem missiles? Where'd you get them?

Well then, I guess I'll post my new ship too now that I know we can:

Azdgari Supercruiser
Shields: 5500
Armor: 3000 (From Voinian Tech)
Weapons: 10 Phase neutron turrets (Carno's tech), 3 SAE Launchers (Igadzra)+60 modules, 1 Plasma Siphon (Igadzra)
Fighters: 2 Azdara Bays+12 Fighters
Outftis: 1 Systems upgrade (Stolen from Zidagar), Azdgari Upgrade, Azdgari shield equipment (all)
Price: 32 mil, only 16 mil here because of rooster's rule. (That's more than twice an Igazra, and igazras were invented long ago, so for the stats its reasonable)
Production: 4 so far (-64 mil). I have sold off 4 AW's at shipyards for extra cash (+6.25 mil each=+25 mil).
Finance Total: 42.5+25-64=3.5 mil remaining

Note: The systems upgrade+extra Azdara bay+6 more fighters will only be available once Bubaganoosh completes his mission. I am still constructing the ships, though, and these extras will be added once available.

Titan/Red, please include price+production in your ship post, along with where you got any special techs and a financial report on production.

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Arada pilot Do you know what happend to the Azgari homeworld, the zidagar used chemical missles to make the planet unable to support life.

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Message to Rooster: I will pay you 15 million credits to destroy this super cruiser the Azgari have maid, do you accept?

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That wasnt too smart. the azdgari homeworld is currently uninhabited anyway, and you wasted your prescious chem missiles on it. you still havent posted how you got them.
And, I have counted at least 29 inhabited worlds under my empire, which makes:
29*20=580 Warships, Capital=435, Arada=145.
Also, howd ya get 10 cloaks, you only had 1 and you dont have a facility.
So, you have those 350 warships who are about to conquer the pozdag system and you have zidaras wasting unknown tech on an uninhabited world, who are being watched by me in my supercloaked ship.
Daedalus, nova wont fall for that. he wont just give away the human captives to a humanitarian lunatic.

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Originally posted by daedalus:
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REDCHIGH: you may have 10 beamers. It will cost money for research but now you have an income.**

::BEGIN TRANSMISSION::
MESSAGE TO DAEDALUS:
I already paid for research on phase beamers, i thought. I was sure i already invested credits back on page 7. If im mistaken oh well...
END MESSAGE
::END TRANSMISSION::

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Continuation: In his search for allies, Daedalus contacted Redchigh the renegade.
<Greetings fellow renegade, I wish to form an alliance, what do you say, North and South tip banded together.>**

::BEGIN TRANSMISSION::
PRIVATE MESSAGE TO DAEDULAS:
(ENCRYPTED)
I'll think about it- just note- i am still a Zidigar co-commander, and sworn enemy of the Adzgari. Oh, and the st renegades are less numerous then the NT renegades- what would i get out of it?seems like you just need protection- that can be done, but you will have to prove your loyalty to me.... nothing big, just classified (reply to get the order)
Or simply tell me why i would want to ally you? have any good technology? stolen technology? or what's the point? sure, i need allied too, but it seems like you would just be sucking my resorces if i have to defend you- now, what would u want the conditions to be?
(/ENCRYPTED)
END MESSAGE
::END TRANSMISSION::

Note to Captain carno: your link to the RH map is totally messed up- try to fix it- i kinda need it for my attack plans...

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Originally posted by Arada Pilot:
**That wasnt too smart. the azdgari homeworld is currently uninhabited anyway, and you wasted your prescious chem missiles on it.
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He hasn't launched the missiles yet, he was just explaining where they came from- the zidigar already used chem missiles on the adzgari homeworld, thats why it is uninhabited.

and I found the missiles in an old, abandoned outfit workshop on the planet Zidigar.

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Redchigh invests 6M of Zidigar credits, and 15 M of Renegade credits to make "modifications" to all of my Renegade aradas.....

My Aradas now have a better shield regeneration rate (tried to duplicate my Adzgari shield enhancer- my version doesn't work quite as well), and 4 REDchigh Phase Beamers instead of phase turrets, and decked out w/ fuel scoops and fuel tanks... Still figuring out how many aradas i'll have... so far, its around 53...

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I wounder if I should destroy an Azgari world or a Voinian world.

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You only have 10 RPB's, so 4 each on 50 aradas doesnt make sense.

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Originally posted by Arada Pilot:
**That wasnt too smart. the azdgari homeworld is currently uninhabited anyway, and you wasted your prescious chem missiles on it. you still havent posted how you got them.
And, I have counted at least 29 inhabited worlds under my empire, which makes:
29*20=580 Warships, Capital=435, Arada=145.
Also, howd ya get 10 cloaks, you only had 1 and you dont have a facility.
So, you have those 350 warships who are about to conquer the pozdag system and you have zidaras wasting unknown tech on an uninhabited world, who are being watched by me in my supercloaked ship.
Daedalus, nova wont fall for that. he wont just give away the human captives to a humanitarian lunatic.

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Arada, you asked Titan where he got the chem missiles. I was only telling you that he had them because they were used against the Agdzari homeworld. Also, I am Nova6's ally. He said that he would be peaceful so I am only doing what he said to do. If you have a problem with that then talk to him. I accept your ship, you realize that they will decrease your daily income from their expenses.

<Transmission to Redchigh>
<If there is one thing that I don't need, it is protection. I have at least 100 ships including 20 Voinian cruisers. An alliance, would be for the protection of both of us I guess.>

On F-25, the construction of ships had begun, all the ships were CW's but with the F-25 upgrade package. Currently, Daedalus saw that 10 ships were underconstruction. Daedalus had decided to paint the ships a metallic silver. They would be called, the Silverfleet.

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MODERATION: Sorry Redchigh, no more technology upgrades until you spend time to research them. Post revoked.

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Heh just try me. 1 cloaked ship couldnt carry enough missiles to kill a world, and would probably get killed by random shots from all the ships.
PS. My new ships are joining my anti-zidagar conquering fleet, more are in production (Development is complete, so this is down to normal war costs except for daedalus's reductions)

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Originally posted by daedalus:
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<Transmission to Redchigh>
<If there is one thing that I don't need, it is protection. I have at least 100 ships including 20 Voinian cruisers. An alliance, would be for the protection of both of us I guess.>
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::BEGIN TRANSMISSION::
<private message to Daedalus>
(Encrypted)
Hmmm Voinian Cruisers, aye? Well's then i guess we can get an ally after all...
willing to help Zidigar destroy the Adzgari? heh heh.... Send me one of your cruisers.. I'll arm it w/ one of my phase beamers for a sample of Bronev plating to duplicate...
REPLY ASAP!
(/Encrypted)
<end message>
::END TRANSMISSION::

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