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    • Capture Odds? (capturing ships for escorts)


      Can anyone elighten me about capture odds ie. the odds of successfully capturing a ship as an escort?

      I had ultimate combat rating in a Cresc Warship (61 crew) + 4 turncoats (101 crew each) + 1 voinian frigate (364 crew) for a total of 930 crew in my fleet.

      I get 75% odds on capturing heilans & aradas, and anywhere from 1% to 40% on capturing turncoats, crescent and Azdgari warships, an 1% to 10% for voinian capital ships.

      Why do the odds differ between different examples of the same ship type?

      I've seen somewhere that the odds relate to crew size and current shield rating (I take it to mean what percent shields/armour you have at the time).

      I'd really like to know about this in a bit more detail.

      TIA

      Sly Simon

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    • It's all relative to YOUR ship's crew compliment. Your escorts don't count.

      And it's based on some kind of formula where the more crew the dissabled ship has, the more crew you're gonna need.

      So the Voinian's have large crews. Try a UE Cruiser for capturing things... it has a huuuuge crew compliment. I use it frequently to capture C. Warships for escorts...

      Of course, EVO 1.0.2 has a "Marines" outfit linked to the Hinwar missions. Plus, if you're into writing plugins, you can create "illegal" marine outfits for yourself, that'll make capturing ships dead easy.

      Have fun, hope I've enlightened you!

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    • The only factors that affect your capture odds, are crew and tech level of your ship and their ship. Sheilds does nothing. If you have a ship with a tech level of 1000 and their ship has a tech level of 1 and you have 1 person and they have a hundred, you'll get the max 75% capture chance.

      Chamrin

    • OK - from the EVO manual:

      "...If you have any large warships, some of their crewmembers will assist in the capture operation as well."

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    • Yes, they're all right. it's YOUR own crew that's measured...

      as for shields/armor.... I've found that ships that I can freshly disable (flying one minute, and then just one burst of fire later, they're disabled) make much easier captures than ships that I hammer the living crap out of. (drops usually to 1 %)

      Maybe it's just me, who knows?
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    • The maximum odds you can ever have is 75%. The minimum is 1%.

      The higher the ratio of your crew to their crew is, the better your chances.

      To further increase the total chances of succesfully capturing a ship, do NOT take their credits/fuel/ammo/cargo before capturing, because each successive "taking" will raise the chances of tripping the self-destruct mechanism. So the odds of attempting to capture a ship may actually be much less than what the percentage says if you steal stuff first.

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    • Then why in the manuel do they have a 99% chance?

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    • Uhhh, ummm... fidgets uncomfortably, at a loss for an explaination

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    • Thanks for all the replies so far. Seems to be some diff of opinion about whether it is own ship or total fleet that counts. I think my odds have waxed and waned with the size of my fleet. Also, even with a constant fleet size, different instances of the same ship type will have different capture odds. There's gotta be a reason???

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      (This message has been edited by Sly (edited 08-15-2000).)

    • The reason induvidual ships have different capture odds is that the more armor damage a ship has, the less crew it has.(Think big, gaping holes in the ship's side that crew get sucked out of.)

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    • Quote

      Originally posted by Sly:
      **Thanks for all the replies so far. Seems to be some diff of opinion about whether it is own ship or total fleet that counts. I think my odds have waxed and waned with the size of my fleet. Also, even with a constant fleet size, different instances of the same ship type will have different capture odds. There's gotta be a reason???
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      Ummm... sly, I think you totally missed it. We all agreed that it's just your own crew..... read again, with the glasses on this time.....

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    • I made a dude in EVO that had 99999 in crew and boarded it straight after (it was a Voinian Cruiser) and now I get 75% on every kind of ships I board except the Voinian ships that must be really unfriendly where I get 1-10% every time....

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    • Flatulence wrote:
      Ummm... sly, I think you totally missed it. We all agreed that it's just your own crew..... read again, with the glasses on this time.....
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      😛 OK..I should have quoted one of the other posters (ColdFusion) quoting the EVO Manual:
      "...If you have any large warships, some of their crewmembers will assist in the capture operation as well."

      That's what suggested there was some doubt.
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