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General Rak

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**Wait, you're saying we have to buy the defense fleets??? That's not how it worked last time, is it?
**

Yes. It's more realistic and should help even things out.

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General Rak

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Originally posted by U.E. Admiral:
do i have cloaks and tractor beams? cause the confeds have their particle beam.

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GRR!!!!!!!!!! DON'T POST MESSAGES LIKE THAT ON THE ACTUAL STORY THREAD. POST ALL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND SIMILAR CONTENT HERE. IF YOU DO POST STUFF LIKE THE ABOVE ON THE ACTUAL WEBSTORY AGAIN, YOU WILL BE PENALIZED
(/flame)

Please post that type of question on this thread, okay? To answer your question, you get the tractor beam, but not the cloaking device. Why? The tractor beam is a weapon, the cloaking device is not. There are no non-weapon outfits allowed (eg no ramscoop or cargo pod, or armor enhancer, etc.).

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BariSaxGuy5

I am getting a bit confused about all of the unique ships out there, and thus have decided to make a complete list of them. Please submit the following specs to me so I can put them on my list: Send them to me at Nickg014@yahoo.com , thanks!

-Picture(if you have one, preferably 200x200 pixels)
-Your Government's name
-Your Ship's Name
-Classification(Fighter, Warship, etc.)
-Price
-Shield
-Armor
-Speed
-Accel
-Turn
-Fuel
-Mass
-Weapons

I'll put anyone that emails me on the list, I think this will help to sort out all of the confusion surrounding it.

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Luke

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Originally posted by General Rak:
**(flame)
GRR!!!!!!!!!! DON'T POST MESSAGES LIKE THAT ON THE ACTUAL STORY THREAD. POST ALL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND SIMILAR CONTENT HERE. IF YOU DO POST STUFF LIKE THE ABOVE ON THE ACTUAL WEBSTORY AGAIN, YOU WILL BE PENALIZED
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You are mentally unstable. Calm yourself. I wish Skyblade could moderate this.

I have decided that my planets will have the same defense fleets as they really do in the game. I don't see why I should modify my fleet; it seems very small compared to everyone elses' fleets. Exactly what do you want me to do with it?

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General Rak

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Originally posted by Luke:
**You are mentally unstable. Calm yourself. ******

Heh. I just don't want this degrading into a BfS-(insert numerical designation here)

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Originally posted by Luke:
**I have decided that my planets will have the same defense fleets as they really do in the game. I don't see why I should modify my fleet; it seems very small compared to everyone elses' fleets. Exactly what do you want me to do with it?
**

You have to modify your fleet to fit in with the amount of money you are given. How about this: you get an extra fifty million (to equal the amount mercs get. So now you get to keep your fleet and add more to it.

Defense Fleets: To fit in with the new fleet numbers and rules, defense fleets must be changed. The standard EV defense fleets just won't work in this environment, and the rule is that all defense fleets (of equal planet types (except for Sol)) should be equivalent. Therefore, you must change yours so it is similar in price to everyone elses. If you can show a defense fleet that fits with the fleet allotment of the world it is defending, you can use that as a defense fleet. If you do not do that, attacking players may create their own version of your defense fleet.

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BariSaxGuy5

The list Has been compiled, there is now a link in my sig. If I missed any, please tell me, and if you have on to add, email it to me

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Luke

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Originally posted by General Rak:
You have to modify your fleet to fit in with the amount of money you are given. How about this: you get an extra fifty million (to equal the amount mercs get. So now you get to keep your fleet and add more to it.

Thanks- the pirates should have a lot of money anyway, right?

(b)

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Defense Fleets: To fit in with the new fleet numbers and rules, defense fleets must be changed. The standard EV defense fleets just won't work in this environment, and the rule is that all defense fleets (of equal planet types (except for Sol)) should be equivalent. Therefore, you must change yours so it is similar in price to everyone elses. If you can show a defense fleet that fits with the fleet allotment of the world it is defending, you can use that as a defense fleet. If you do not do that, attacking players may create their own version of your defense fleet.

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BariSaxGuy5

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Originally posted by Luke:
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Question: Do I have to supply a pic of my new ship, the Modified Heavy Kestral? I have no graphics ability.

**

You don't have to, but you'll get that crappy "No Picture Available" one if ya don't

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Luke

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**The list Has been compiled, there is now a link in my sig. If I missed any, please tell me, and if you have on to add, email it to me:)
**

Skyblade himself added the Modified Argosy:
Speed: 200
Accel: ***
Turn: ***
Shields: 40
Armor: 40
Fuel: 4 Jumps
Crew: 35
Cost: 1,000,000 credits
Armament: Two laser turrets,
one missile rack with six
missiles, and one Hawk
fighter bay with two Hawk
fighters.

After three pages and 30M (300% real ship price) credits, I will have developed the Modified Heavy Kestrel:
Speed: 275
Accel: ***
Turn: ***
Shields: 400
Armor: 150
Fuel: 8 Jumps
Crew: 250
Cost: 10,000,000 credits
Armament:
3 proton bolt turrets
1 Neutron blaster
3 missile racks with 30 missiles
1 torpedo launcher with 20 torpedoes
3 Lightning fighter bay with 6 Lightning fighters.

Is that okay?

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BariSaxGuy5

Ok, I'll go add those now
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(This message has been edited by BariSaxGuy5 (edited 04-27-2002).)

Ne Demord Jamais

Luke, you do not have to wait until three pages are completed to develop the Heavy Kestrel, just do it when the Pyrates have the money, which is in this case in three pages!

As for the modified Argosy, add the mass to the description and General Rak will be able to officialize the cost, if it is different from the normal one with its two Hawk fighters.

Sorry to be late on this, I even posted before, but I am unsure about the fact that a fleet can wipout 113 mantas and take only 3 Prolwers. The barrage of rockets would have hit at the same moment as the rebel missiles the two sides, then the bombs. I do not doubt the Confed victory, but rather the Ťreduce losesť, but mostly the way it is said to be: both sides are at war and know that they can be under attack at any moments, so saying that they are unprepare is like saying that mercenaires are not good pilots.

BariSaxGuy, your personal map of the Blackthorne Empire shows that Darven has a darker spot in the middle, which means, according to the Skyblades's map that it is a coreworld, which is not. I maybe mistaken, but Ťjustť for conformism, could you adjust it.

Thank you.

I.

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Actually, that's just to indicate that's my capital

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Jimbob

Eek? What are you doing, UE Admiral? You just can't give the planets all Mantas! Seriousily, sorry, but think about it for a moment.

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Ne Demord Jamais

BariSaxGuy, it is fine with me.

Luke, the pay that the pirates could receive could be a max of 1,5 M credits per page, make this number vary up to this as you will: the hunt is not always good! For the captured ships, write a description of the battle before saying that a ship has been stolen. Ships like Kestrels or frigate-destroyer-cruiser-class are less likely to be taken since they travel with escorts and belong to more powerful organisations than civilians. Freighters, couriers, scoutships are all yours more easily.

I hope I formulated my thoughts clearly.

I.

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Ne Demord Jamais

Welcome Jimbob and before General Rak kills you, the things that are permitted in the EVW is only the pure story itself! All the rest is here: questions, comments about the way things are going has to be done here.

Now the important:

Rebel start with 800 M credits for offensive fleets. The Defence Fleets are: 100M for capital, 40M for core worlds, 20 M for colonies, see Skyblade's map for the Rebel location of these systems.

Your fellows are UE Admiral (active), and the useen: The Space Between, RSS BlackHawk, Kyle the Kender said that he would not write or something like this.

I suggest you contact UE Admiral to organize the Rebel counterattack, the Confeds have taken two system near Olympus and have set up a DF.

When you conquer a new system, you have to pay for the new DF, from your own money, not the one from the planet allocation. After three pages, you will be able to receice the Ťsystem payť.

New ships have been developed before the start: the Confed Prowler corvette, which is a corvette for its speed!; the Corsair a Lethe war ship; the BlackThorne Tigershark a fighter; the Olympian Athean frigate. Take a look a BariSaxGuy's signature to his well done own page about the new ships.

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General Rak

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Originally posted by Luke:
All right, then my defense fleets will all have as many Rapiers as I can afford, except for Pirate's Cove, which will have all the Kestrals it can afford. Left over money will go to stuffing in extra Defenders. If you want real figures, figure it out yourself.:p (Or I guess I could, if I really have to.)

I'll do it.

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Originally posted by Luke:
Proposition: Since pirates, obviously, pirate other ships, could they get a certain amount of stolen money per page? This wouldn't have to be too large.

You can occasionally capture ships to supplement your fleet.

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Originally posted by Luke:
Question: Do I have to supply a pic of my new ship, the Modified Heavy Kestral? I have no graphics ability.

No.

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Originally posted by Luke:
Speed: 200
Accel: ***
Turn: ***
Shields: 40
Armor: 40
Fuel: 4 Jumps
Crew: 35
<snip>
Armament: Two laser turrets, one missile rack with six missiles, and one Hawk fighter bay with two Hawk fighters.

Cost = 2.50M

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Originally posted by Luke:
**After three pages and 30M (300% real ship price) credits, I will have developed the Modified Heavy Kestrel:
Speed: 275
Accel: ***
Turn: ***
Shields: 400
Armor: 150
Fuel: 8 Jumps
Crew: 250
<snip>
Armament:
3 proton bolt turrets
1 Neutron blaster
3 missile racks with 30 missiles
1 torpedo launcher with 20 torpedoes
3 Lightning fighter bay with 6 Lightning fighters.
**

Cost = 11.51M

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Originally posted by Ne Demord Jamais:
**Sorry to be late on this, I even posted before, but I am unsure about the fact that a fleet can wipout 113 mantas and take only 3 Prolwers. The barrage of rockets would have hit at the same moment as the rebel missiles the two sides, then the bombs. I do not doubt the Confed victory, but rather the Ťreduce losesť, but mostly the way it is said to be: both sides are at war and know that they can be under attack at any moments, so saying that they are unprepare is like saying that mercenaires are not good pilots.
**

That's okay. The way I see it, space bombs have extremely deadly spread damage. So if you launch about 30 or 40 of them, they should be able to easily slice through a cluster of mantas. Try it in game against a fighter pack and see what I mean. However, since you are the supreme mod and you have a valid point, I'll go back and edit the battle so that I incur more losses. Okay?

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**Eek? What are you doing, UE Admiral? You just can't give the planets all Mantas! Seriousily, sorry, but think about it for a moment.
**

He also used most of the 800M Rebel capital on his own fleet. You can, if you want to, change the composition of the Rebel defense fleets, but my battles stand (after they are edited for the above posted reason).

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
note: Skyblade isn't the president. Correct?

Nope.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**Now, how much do we have for fleets? And who do I have on my team?
**

You have 800M total for all Rebellion fleets. You are on a team with UE Admiral and yourself plus some others who appear to be inactive.

FYI- PLEASE don't post stuff like this on the EV Webstory topic. It just clutters it and causes confusion. I can't emphasize this point enough!

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General Rak

Battle edited to account for more losses and a more accurate battle.

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Ne Demord Jamais

First, never qualify me as supreme in no condition I hate these kind of words, we are all born equal!

I know the wide range of a bomb, it is more your interpretation of the Rebel tactic to attack which makes me think. The adjustments are fine.

FOR ALL:
Please make sure that you are as objective as subjective. Think of Nash's equilibrium.

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General Rak

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Originally posted by Luke:
**All right, then my defense fleets will all have as many Rapiers as I can afford, except for Pirate's Cove, which will have all the Kestrals it can afford. Left over money will go to stuffing in extra Defenders. If you want real figures, figure it out yourself.:p (Or I guess I could, if I really have to.)
**

168 Rapiers for every pirate world except for Pirate's Cove.
Pirates Cove: 21 Kestrels, 16 Defenders.

Okay?

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General Rak

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Originally posted by Ne Demord Jamais:
First, never qualify me as supreme in no condition I hate these kind of words, we are all born equal!

Okay...fine.

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Originally posted by Ne Demord Jamais:
I know the wide range of a bomb, it is more your interpretation of the Rebel tactic to attack which makes me think. The adjustments are fine.

Well, it seems to me that since they had never seen the Prowler before they would divert to the normal in-game tactic of swarming.

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